Ryan Miller: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jordan Clarkson and Lauri Markkanen are both questionable for tomorrow[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/millerjryan"]Twitter millerjryan[/URL]
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Ryan Miller: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jordan Clarkson and Lauri Markkanen are both questionable for tomorrow[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/millerjryan"]Twitter millerjryan[/URL]
Good game for Potter. Hendricks and Sensabaugh struggled. Christopher out
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/kris-dunn-and-not-keyonte-george-should-be-starting-going-forward-fo-01hg6gjwjbv1[/url]
[QUOTE][h=1]Kris Dunn, and not Keyonte George, should be starting going forward fo[/h][/QUOTE]
I agree and if playing unselfish and hard is what Hardy really wants he would have been all along but we know Dunn will be back at the end of the bench once The Bum is back. He didn't even play that much last game and him and Yurtseven were their best players. He's probably their best defender by far and one of the best in the league and he can run the offense and George could learn behind him until he's ready
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The Jazz are not a team that can afford to sit their best defensive players, even if it means that a rookie sits, and if the team is deadset on playing Jordan Clarkson as a starter, then the Jazz have to sit George for Dunn. Dunn is better right now in every aspet, and George has shown to be a poor shot selector and just as wild passing the ball as Clarkson is.
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he's taken care of the ball pretty well. He's not a Bum. The Bum will of course still play as he's obviously Hardy's favorite player. Hopefully Ainge fixes this shit sooner than later
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2023/11/27/23976264/utah-jazz-new-orleans-pelicans-inside-the-numbers[/url]
[QUOTE][B]Best of the best:[/B] Jordan Clarkson had ten assists and just one turnover on a night when the Pelicans were really denying some of the Jazz’s normal playmakers.
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no mention of his godawful gunning though as usual :facepalm
Not Sensabaugh's best outing. A lot of TO's again. Hendricks got a double double with some steals and blocks but didn't shoot well. Potter and Juzand were pretty good but like the Jazz lots of TO's. Devoe continues to be someone to keep an eye on
Eric Walden: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Kris Dunn is OUT tonight (along with Lauri Markkanen), while Jordan Clarkson and Kelly Olynyk are QUESTIONABLE.[/URL] pic.twitter.com/43cF0d8ZVA
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]
[QUOTE] [URL="https://*********.com/lists/top-nba-trade-candidates-for-the-2023-24-season/"]Talen Horton-Tucker ($11.02 million) and Kelly Olynyk ($12.2 million) have expiring contracts and are potential trade candidates,[/URL] rival executives who spoke with ********* said. Collin Sexton’s salary would make him a trade candidate for matching potential contracts.
– via [URL="https://*********.com/lists/top-nba-trade-candidates-for-the-2023-24-season/"]Michael Scotto @ *********[/URL]
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get rid of The Bum
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/what-should-the-utah-jazz-s-lineup-and-rotation-look-like-when-lauri-markkanen-returns-from-injury-01hgbvjt7hde[/url]
[QUOTE]Well, the starting five should likely be Keyonte George, Collin Sexton, Simone Fontecchio, Lauri Markkanen, and Walker Kessler in the starting lineup. George can playmake, and Sexton is a reliable shooter. Fontecchio brings improved size on the perimeter to help with the defense, while Markkanen is the star of the team and becomes the rightful number-one option. Kessler should also go back to controlling both ends of the court from the paint.
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Dunn/Sexton/Agbaji/Lauri/Kessler
[QUOTE]The sixth man should be Jordan Clarkson, as you can limit his shot attempts and maximize his streaky shooting in the process. Then you have John Collins, whose offense has been awful and needs to be protected, and Kris Dunn who can help balance the defensive issues off the bench. Lastly, you have Kelly Olynyk, and depending on the issues with George and Clarkson, Ochai Agbaji is the 10th man if needed. Olynyk can facilitate the offense and play solid defense.
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George/Talen/Olynyk/Collins
need more wings. Trade Bum and probably others with Hendricks and Sensabaugh coming
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/john-collins-may-not-be-the-guy-the-utah-jazz-need-01hg6gn271kb[/url]
he's been their 2nd or 3rd best player. Problem is too many bigs. Him or Olynyk if not both will have to go
Sensabaugh shot horribly. Big game for Hendricks. Christopher back. Potter with Jazz
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/sitting-jordan-clarkson-won-t-help-his-trade-value-but-it-ll-help-the-utah-jazz-win-games-01hgh2tv2jfb[/url]
[QUOTE][h=1]Sitting Jordan Clarkson won't help his trade value but it'll help the Utah Jazz win games[/h][/QUOTE]
Playing him and him sucking can't help his trade value either. Hard for me to believe anyone can see any value in the guy at all
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/the-utah-jazz-should-just-tank-if-they-re-going-to-keep-starting-keyonte-george-01hgkh85hycz[/url]
they are tanking. George certainly isn't their biggest issue
[QUOTE] “I mean, that’s pretty much what I do — I’m a defensive player, so I’m trying to affect the game in any way I can,” said the soft-spoken Hendricks. His teammates, meanwhile, were a little more vociferous about his defensive proclivities. [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2023/12/03/utah-jazz-rookie-taylor-hendricks/"]“Defensively, I think he’s going to be a monster,” said fellow rookie Keyonte George. “Help side, on-ball — he’s coming in to himself as a player. I texted him the other day and just told him to be ready.[/URL] I’ve been seeing what he’s been doing with the Stars; I think that that could come into play with us — being that guy that comes in, go guard the best player, frustrate him, help-side go block the shot.”
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2023/12/03/utah-jazz-rookie-taylor-hendricks/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]
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if the coach would play him, Dunn and Agbaji they'd probably be at least decent defensively but he won't
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/2-things-the-utah-jazz-are-doing-well-and-2-things-they-are-not-doing-well-01hgv5dfjqma[/url]
[QUOTE]Two big culprits are the often discussed Talen Horton-Tucker and Jordan Clarkson, who are 9th and 12th on the team in true shooting percentages. Despite this lack of effeciency, Clarkson is 2nd and Horton-Tucker is 6th in shots attempted for the Jazz. It really doesn't take a rocket sciencetist to see who's holding back the team.
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coach Hardy and the front office. Talen is young with upside anyway. The Bum there is absolutely no excuse for
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/rudy-gobert-is-still-looking-every-bit-as-good-as-he-did-when-he-was-with-the-utah-jazz-01hgh2s5fpfw[/url]
different timeline than their young guys so enough picks and Danny would move him for sure
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/where-do-the-7-13-jazz-go-from-here/[/url]
[QUOTE]Ochai Agbaji is the other second year player who needs to bring more to the table. In roughly the same amount of minutes per game compared to his rookie season, his scoring has gone down from 7.9 to 5.7. The Jazz don’t need Ochai to be a high volume shooter and scorer, but they do need him to be more of a consistent threat. He has been fantastic on the defensive side of the ball and is doing a good job of taking on the challenge of defending the top offensive wings on the opposing team each night, but on 5.7 points and 4.8 shot attempts per game isn’t going to cut it.
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need a new coach with a clue. He's really the only wing player on the team and needs to play big minutes
[QUOTE]The final step for the Jazz to get more competitive would likely be at least one roster move to bolster their guardline. I am a Jordan Clarkson truther so I am not going to go there, but they could package either Talen Horton-Tucker or Collin Sexton, paired with one of their many future draft picks to see if they can bring in a more solid and consistent presence in the backcourt, ideally a shooter. THT may be the more appealing option to other teams due to his age and expiring contract.
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you're an idiot. Anyone that can watch this team and think The Bum isn't their biggest problem is clueless
[QUOTE]Doing this option is pretty easy. The Jazz are already loaded with some really intriguing young assets, and you could give them ample opportunity to prove what they have to offer to the franchise going forward. If the Jazz were to try and trade some of their veteran talent to contending teams, they could increase draft capital or bring in additional young talent. Kelly Olynyk, THT, Sexton, and as much as it pains me to say, Jordan Clarkson, are all players that would have value in the marketplace. It would definitely decrease their chance of winning, but that would free up playing time for George, Agbaji, Sensabaugh, Hendricks, and Kessler.
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that's where you need to be looking. Get what you can out of the others
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/sc7-working-dev-minutes/[/url]
[QUOTE][B]What’s working? Extending possessions. [/B]The Jazz score 26.6 points per every 100 of their own reboundable misses. That’s second in the league, and it’s the only thing saving their halfcourt offense, which is otherwise kind of a wreck. They are third worst in the league at scoring in halfcourt.
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from playing big and pounding the glass which hurts them everywhere else
[QUOTE][B]What’s not working? Guard shooting.[/B] The four main ball handlers — Jordan Clarkson, Keyonte George, Collin Sexton and Talen Horton-Tucker — are all shooting below 34% from three this season. Together, they are converting a combined 31.7% from outside, and that probably won’t cut it if the Jazz are aiming to be semi-competitive over the next 61%. And because guards aren’t making outside shots, it’s made Utah’s pull-up shooting game so anemic (28.9% on pull-up threes, third worst) that teams can guard pick-and-roll action a certain way and make it even harder for Utah to break the paint.
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at least two of them need to go
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[B]What’s not working? A lot of John Collins pairings. [/B]Collins has been one of Utah’s most consistent players. But when he is paired with literally any of the other 10 main rotation guys, the net rating of each of those pairs is -6.3 to -21.4. Some of this might start to look better if the guard shooting improves, as Collins looks a lot less comfortable on the court with multiple non-shooters. For example, when THT is the point guard and Kessler and Collins share the floor, the Jazz are -21.2.
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Collins needs to go to the bench once Lauri is back and probably traded
[QUOTE]The Jazz had their two worst offensive games of the year in the Memphis-Minny back-to-back: 96.8 outside of garbage time and heaves against the Grizz, 93.8 against the Wolves. All told. their O-rating is 105.3 in the games Markkanen has missed, which would be last in the league. Somehow, though, they’re 3-2 in those games.
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The Bum being out too mainly
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/should-simone-fontecchio-remain-in-the-starting-lineup-when-lauri-markkanen-returns-01hh08c5satk[/url]
no. He's a 4 playing out of position like most of their team
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/we-re-not-sure-what-espn-is-talking-about-but-john-collins-is-not-having-a-good-season-01hh07p3ka45[/url]
been their 2nd or 3rd best player
[url]https://kslsports.com/508517/jazz-notes-will-taylor-hendricks-stay-in-rotation-when-markkanen-returns/[/url]
along with Agbaji he was their best player last night. Put them with Kessler and Dunn and they might be able to play some D. He could help them more than George right now. Unfortunately the coach isn't a big fan of any of those guys. His favorite will be back soon to carry them! :roll:
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/the-inevitable-scuttlebutt-around-lauri-markkanens-future/[/url]
the fact that he is on a different timeline than their last 5 1sts tells me trading him makes the most sense. Too bad they didn't keep Gobert or they might have been one of the top teams in the league still
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/should-the-utah-jazz-make-this-trade-with-the-portland-trail-blazers-01hh09df2afj[/url]
makes some sense since Hardy doesn't like Dunn. Need a vet to mentor George
[QUOTE] Andy Larsen: Will Hardy: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“Our fans should want to win every game, like, that’s totally normal and healthy… We also understand that we have one of the smartest fan bases in the NBA in terms of having perspective and understanding where we are in this process.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"]Twitter andyblarsen[/URL]
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The Bum says otherwise about the coach and fanbase
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/former-utah-jazz-guard-drops-highest-bpm-of-the-season-on-his-former-team-in-dallas-mavericks-blowout-01hh2rna5k94[/url]
still can't shoot. If he's in their rotation they're in trouble. End of the bench defensive specialist sure
Sensabaugh limited minutes so hopefully he's alright? Played well as did Christopher and Juzang
[URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2023/12/08/could-utah-jazz-leave-downtown-one/"]Smith Entertainment Group, the company with a majority stake in the Jazz, has explored building a new arena outside of Utah’s capital city,[/URL] multiple stakeholders have told The Salt Lake Tribune. Those talks have included holding behind-closed-door conversations with The Point of the Mountain State Land Authority about building a new arena near the old site of the Utah state prison, at the south end of Salt Lake County. A new arena would likely host the Utah Jazz and a future NHL team.
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2023/12/08/could-utah-jazz-leave-downtown-one/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]
[URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2023/12/08/could-utah-jazz-leave-downtown-one/"]Salt Lake City officials and stakeholders want to be proactive in keeping the Jazz — along with potentially building a new sports and entertainment district — downtown.[/URL] “Our board establishes four priorities for the year. One of those four priorities this year is to support investments in the Utah Jazz’s long-term residency downtown,” Downtown Alliance executive director Dee Brewer said. While any decision is likely years away — the team plans to stay at the Delta Center for the immediate future — it’s clear that both Jazz owner Ryan Smith’s management group and government leaders have been considering where the team might play next.
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2023/12/08/could-utah-jazz-leave-downtown-one/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]
Why would Jazz ownership think about building a new arena? [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2023/12/08/could-utah-jazz-leave-downtown-one/"]“If the Jazz can expand their revenue platform, they can invest more in the players and be more competitive with teams in larger markets like LA, Miami, NY and Chicago,” Brewer said.[/URL] Forbes estimated that the Jazz made $275 million in revenue for the 2022-23 season; NBA teams in those four larger markets earned an average of $437 million.
– via [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2023/12/08/could-utah-jazz-leave-downtown-one/"]Salt Lake Tribune[/URL]
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/benching-ochai-agbaji-for-jordan-clarkson-was-a-major-mistake-for-the-utah-jazz-01hh7pbdbc4c[/url]
he's proving he's not qualified to be a head coach in the NBA. The guys that should be playing he doesn't like. His favorite player is a joke
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/can-the-utah-jazz-win-without-an-elite-perimeter-defender-01hh7p9h8s4e[/url]
Dunn is elite and Agbaji looks like he could be as well as Hendricks. Need a new coach and for Ainge to fix the roster
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/utah-jazz-head-coach-seems-fed-up-with-the-effort-his-team-is-putting-out-01hhamq6yb0y[/url]
[QUOTE]Will Hardy seems upset that the Utah Jazz aren't putting forth the effort needed.
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we keep hearing it but he keeps playing the same guys. Agbaji and Dunn play hard. No they can't throw up brick after brick or pound the rock all night like The Bum but they will give it their all
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/salt-city-seven-how-to-enjoy-following-a-non-competitive-team-more/[/url]
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So who’s most likely to be around and making an impact on the next competitive team? I think it’s easiest to think about it in groupings.
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the 5 1sts from the past two drafts and maybe Lauri. Possibly some of the other younger guys Sexton, Talen, Samanic, Christopher and Juzang?
[QUOTE][B]Non-rotation minimums. [/B]History shows these are the most transient pieces in a rebuild. Luka Samanic probably ranks as the least likely long-term piece here just because technically his contract is still just partially guaranteed. Kris Dunn has a full guarantee for the season and has basically been the 11th man. Omer Yurtseven straddles this group and the next, but we’ll slot him here for now since he’s back out of the rotation and he has a near-minimum contract that is fully non-guaranteed for next year.
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be interesting to see if they pick up Samanic for the rest of the year. He's still pretty young and has some upside
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2023/12/12/23996965/utah-jazz-are-nba-leaders-of-some-of-the-worst-stats-will-hardy-whats-wrong[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz have the 26th-ranked offense and 26th-ranked defense in the NBA. During the last 10 games, the Jazz have allowed the sixth-best opponent 3-point percentage (38.8%), they allow the sixth-most points of all NBA teams and they are the second-most blocked team in the league, with opponents averaging 6.7 blocks per game.
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play Dunn, Agbaji and Hendricks and the D would improve. Starting Dunn would improve the turnover problem too. Agbaji should start too and maybe even Hendricks if he can play the 3. He's at least an energy guy off the bench
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/josh-hart-is-the-type-of-player-the-utah-jazz-are-missing-01hhjnch82r6[/url]
[QUOTE]But as for the three-and-D guy, while they've tried [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/11/17/simone-fontecchio-should-keep-getting-reps-for-the-utah-jazz/"]out Simone Fontecchio[/URL] and Ochai Abaji at the spots, neither has shown to be that consistent of a shooter or that great of a defender to be that guy, again, yet. They might turn into that guy, but for right now they aren't.
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Simone a 3 and D? Agbaji just needs to play along with Dunn and Hendricks
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/the-utah-jazz-feeling-directionless-and-without-a-plan-for-the-2023-2024-season-01hhjk8bd3xk[/url]
[QUOTE]Clarkson can score, especially off the bench, where you limit his minutes and match him up on defense against less-quality offensive players. But Clarkson isn't a point guard. He's not a natural ball handler and he's certainly not a great passer. His defense is among the worst in the league and he's being asked to play against a team's top two or three guard. That's posing significant issues on a nightly basis.
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the biggest problem is the coach thinks he's their best player
[QUOTE]And if the latter was truly the case, then this season was never going to go any different. If the goal was to compete, then moves would've needed to be made by now to ensure that the team never fell this far behind. If the goal was to rebuild, they never should've brought Kelly Olynyk, Talen Horton-Tucker, and Jordan Clarkson back for this season.
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Talen just turned 23 and you do need some vets. Giving The Bum an extension is a head scratcher though
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/we-love-seeing-dante-exum-play-great-but-moving-on-was-the-right-call-01hhjk7jc0mx[/url]
I wish they would have let his contract expire and we'd never seen The Bum! :cry:
[QUOTE] While there has been no tangible evidence that Utah’s stance on Markkanen has changed, [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/a-new-team-joins-nba-trade-watch?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=392205&post_id=139803534&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=10980&utm_medium=email"]there is a rising belief heading into Showcase that a team or two out there is actively planning to test Utah’s resolve this season by making an offer for the Finnish power forward[/URL].
– via [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/a-new-team-joins-nba-trade-watch?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=392205&post_id=139803534&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=10980&utm_medium=email"]Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com[/URL]
One thing to add to the conversation is that [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/a-new-team-joins-nba-trade-watch?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=392205&post_id=139803534&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=10980&utm_medium=email"]there is palpable curiosity circulating among some teams studying the Jazz about Utah’s long-range plans for Lauri Markkanen[/URL].
– via [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/a-new-team-joins-nba-trade-watch?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=392205&post_id=139803534&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=10980&utm_medium=email"]Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com[/URL]
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My guess is with enough picks Danny is listening. Too bad they didn't make the Cavs deal and keep Gobert though
[QUOTE] Olynyk, meanwhile, is in on course to become a free agent in July as he plays out the final season of a three-year, $37 million deal and is regarded in some league circles as [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/a-new-team-joins-nba-trade-watch?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=392205&post_id=139803534&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=10980&utm_medium=email"]the most likely of the Utah vets to move on at some point during the next six-plus weeks[/URL].
– via [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/a-new-team-joins-nba-trade-watch?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=392205&post_id=139803534&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=10980&utm_medium=email"]Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com[/URL]
[URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/a-new-team-joins-nba-trade-watch?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=392205&post_id=139803534&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=10980&utm_medium=email"]Sexton, 24, is in the second year of a four-year, $71 million deal and, according to my Yahoo! Sports’ colleague Jake Fischer, has been available in trade conversations since this past offseason[/URL].
– via [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/a-new-team-joins-nba-trade-watch?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=392205&post_id=139803534&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=10980&utm_medium=email"]Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com[/URL]
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Olynyk, Collins and The Bum I would think are the top candiadates
[QUOTE] And yet the Jazz are mired in an 8-16 start, prompting several teams to phone Utah’s front office in order to gauge its willingness to move Markkanen, sources said. The Jazz are by no means expected to trade the 7-foot sharpshooter at this juncture. He’s been a true favorite of Jazz officials, sources said. But [URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/how-the-trade-market-is-shaping-up-for-zach-lavine-lauri-markkanen-145142833.html"]Utah has indeed left opposing executives with the sense that Markkanen is no longer untouchable in trade conversations,[/URL] league sources told Yahoo Sports.
– via [URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/how-the-trade-market-is-shaping-up-for-zach-lavine-lauri-markkanen-145142833.html"]Jake Fischer @ Yahoo! Sports[/URL]
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can't imagine anyone is with Danny especially with the gap in age between him and their last 5 1sts
League personnel believe three teams in particular value the Finnish forward at this preliminary stage of trade conversations. Two of those apparent suitors, [URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/how-the-trade-market-is-shaping-up-for-zach-lavine-lauri-markkanen-145142833.html"]Sacramento and Atlanta, make sense, considering the Kings’ and Hawks’ respective approaches for Siakam. The third team league personnel continue mentioning to watch for a potential Markkanen approach is Oklahoma City,[/URL] suddenly second in the West with a trove of first-round picks.
– via [URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/how-the-trade-market-is-shaping-up-for-zach-lavine-lauri-markkanen-145142833.html"]Jake Fischer @ Yahoo! Sports[/URL]
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2023/12/14/24002243/nba-utah-jazz-trade-rumors-jordan-clarkson-john-collins-collin-sexton-talen-horton-tuck-kelly-olynyk[/url]
[QUOTE]Those five players are Talen Horton-Tucker, Collin Sexton, Kelly Olynyk, John Collins, and fan favorite Jordan Clarkson. There is a sense of frustration in the teams guard play. The three mentioned guards poor shot selection and reluctance to pass have been the teams main issue. Kelly Olynyk has defensive limitations but his elite floor spacing and passing make him an appealing trade candidate for a contender. Olynyk is 32 and does not fit the teams timeline.
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as we've seen their biggest issue is The Bum and the coach that thinks he's the best player on the team. Olynyk and Collins probably have to go because of Hendricks and the fact that they need wings not 3 bigs starting. Talen and Sexton are young so I'm open about them still
[QUOTE]The other starter potentially on the trading block is new acquisition, John Collins. Collins still has not acclimated himself into the teams system. Collins is not the 20 and 10 guy he was a few years ago but he shouldn’t be regressing, he should be entering his prime. Collins has the physical tools to be a great defender but has not made that jump. John has provided the team with good shooting and rebounding but he is not considered a core piece moving forward.
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He's been their 2nd or 3rd best player but you can't start 3 bigs and is he going to be happy off the bench? Plus you have Hendricks and possibly Senabaugh coming
[url]https://thejnotes.com/posts/trade-season-opens-on-december-15th-who-is-on-the-block-from-the-utah-jazz-01hhnkrkqmbf[/url]
[QUOTE]But John Collins, the biggest Jazz acquisition of the off-season, is a strange inclusion, especially where he has multiple seasons left under contract, and his play hasn't raised his trade value on the open market. Have the Jazz given up on him already?
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his play should have raised his value. I think they saw him as a trade piece when they got him