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20 point first quarter in a conference finals closeout game. Against a higher seeded team with the DPOY, 6MoY, and "next MJ".
Damn.
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20 point first quarter in a conference finals closeout game. Against a higher seeded team with the DPOY, 6MoY, and "next MJ".
Damn.
[QUOTE=GOBB;14974395]*scrolls*
What post season success does Luka have exactly? First rd exits until last season.
Injury prone? The guy is a fat American and he’s not American. Explain that to me.
Defense? About as non existent as Embiid in a back to back.
When you list the top 5 players in the NBA past 2-3 seasons Luka and Embiid are mentioned. How you rank them? That is on you. Both aren’t winners of anything besides stats and accolades. One is younger and competed with Zion on the scale. The other compete with Anthony Davis in the training room.
Preference and personal bias aside. Luka vslue is not more than Embiid. Certainly not Maxey and Embiid.[/QUOTE]
Embiid competes with anyone in the training room? He just ducked Jokic in another DNP this season. That's what 7 matches in a row now? Compete and Embiid just don't belong in the same sentence the way you want it to.
Only NBA player Embidd competes with is Zion with how many rest days and non back to backs they play. Nobody would trade for Embidd. What a terrible bloated contract he only plays in half his games.
[QUOTE=Neal Romer;14974415][video=youtube_share;dB9fSqSCOlk]https://youtu.be/dB9fSqSCOlk?si=oQxjAyJpVUzTJq6g[/video]
20 point first quarter in a conference finals closeout game. Against a higher seeded team with the DPOY, 6MoY, and "next MJ".
Damn.[/QUOTE]
The dude can score for sure. The question is will Lebron be willing to be the team's beta and let Luka dominate the ball?
[QUOTE=GOBB;14974395]*scrolls*
What post season success does Luka have exactly? First rd exits until last season. [/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Both teams get worse. Nice.
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[QUOTE=GOBB;14974395]*scrolls*
What post season success does Luka have exactly? First rd exits until last season.
Embiid.[/QUOTE]
Actually Luka got farther in the playoffs than embiid ever had even if you don't include last season. He made the WCF in '22.
LOL. That's all the Mavs could get for Luka? Anthony "empty stats bro" Davis? :oldlol:
Some teams deserve to stay in the toilet.
[QUOTE=GOBB;14974411]The start of your post proves my point. Neither player accomplished any success outside of stats and accolades lol
“Luka carried Dallas to the finals”.
They beat Clippers without its best player.
They beat up on the youngest team in the playoffs
Kudos on the Wolves series
They got a dose of reality vs the Celtics. And one of the things they LACKED in that series they gained in a trade. Go figure that
But continue with the cute espn stat takes “first player to take team at age 25 with 25% body fat to the nba finals while avg over 27ppg”. Kewl!
I don’t care what fans on the planet think. Somehow you know what they think. What a fascinating skill you possess. Why are you here and not on Forbes? You’re sitting on a lottery ticket and afraid to cash in.
You don’t have to agree with me that embiid and Luka is fair value. But here is a fact? Ready for this? Luka was just traded for Anthony Davis. Yikes. That happened. But I’m crazy to think embiid and Luka is for value. Got it.[/QUOTE]
Me explaining that Luka has been a significantly better playoff performer than Embiid individually and has led his teams to more success at a younger age... proves your point?
The fact that you didn't even know Luka made the conference finals a few years ago tells me you're not even qualified to be having a discussion about this shit.
Embarrassing you're even trying. None of the drivel you just wrote out is anything I remotely took seriously on any level, btw.
Amazing get for the Lakers though I don't see how they're winning in the short-term unless another trade is in the works here. Bron/Luka/Reaves is a nightmare on defense and now you got no one to protect the rim.
Can't believe we got Luka though I've always rooted for him gonna need a few days or weeks to process this.
[QUOTE=Neal Romer;14974408]He didnt do this to the number 1 seed Phoenix Suns in 2022 en route to a conference finals?
[video=youtube_share;BsPAVSm2lhs]https://youtu.be/BsPAVSm2lhs?si=gfR1LQt_FkaGIfTI[/video]
Whatever else you wanna say about Luka, the one thing thats undeniable is he has been a playoff KILLER.
Thats not up for dispute between sane individuals.[/QUOTE]
As of now, 2nd all-time in playoff PPG at 31ppg after 50 games.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14974428]Actually Luka got farther in the playoffs than embiid ever had even if you don't include last season. He made the WCF in '22.[/QUOTE]
Yeah embiid can’t get past rd 2. Getting a rd further in 22 is cool. Just not a deciding factor in terms of who has more value to me. I forgot the crazy run in 22.
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14974440]Me explaining that Luka has been a significantly better playoff performer than Embiid individually and has led his teams to more success at a younger age... proves your point?
The fact that you didn't even know Luka made the conference finals a few years ago tells me you're not even qualified to be having a discussion about this shit.
Embarrassing you're even trying. None of the drivel you just wrote out is anything I remotely took seriously on any level, btw.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. GOBB needs to STFU, total Embid glazer. So biased towards him it clouds his judgement
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14974440]Me explaining that Luka has been a significantly better playoff performer than Embiid individually and has led his teams to more success at a younger age... proves your point?
The fact that you didn't even know Luka made the conference finals a few years ago tells me you're not even qualified to be having a discussion about this shit.
Embarrassing you're even trying. None of the drivel you just wrote out is anything I remotely took seriously on any level, btw.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :applause:
[QUOTE=BallsOut;14974416]Embiid competes with anyone in the training room? He just ducked Jokic in another DNP this season. That's what 7 matches in a row now? Compete and Embiid just don't belong in the same sentence the way you want it to.
Only NBA player Embidd competes with is Zion with how many rest days and non back to backs they play. Nobody would trade for Embidd. What a terrible bloated contract he only plays in half his games.[/QUOTE]
The comparison was to say Davis and Embiid are always in the training room. Not sure how that went over your head? lol
[QUOTE=Carbine;14974450]Exactly. GOBB needs to STFU, total Embid glazer. So biased towards him it clouds his judgement[/QUOTE]
That must be your alt account. Haven’t seen you around until know. You dudes are weird. Probably socially awkward as all hell in the real world.
As an aside, reportedly this is the first time two all-NBA players(I'm taking that to mean as of the most recently concluded season) have been traded mid-season. Which is an amazing fact if true, and really hammers home the point that this is very much a historic trade.
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14974446]Amazing get for the Lakers though I don't see how they're winning in the short-term unless another trade is in the works here. Bron/Luka/Reaves is a nightmare on defense and now you got no one to protect the rim.
Can't believe we got Luka though I've always rooted for him gonna need a few days or weeks to process this.[/QUOTE]
It's amazing for Lakers fans long term. Terrible for the Bron stans this year.
But I made the same post. As currently structured, Lakers are trash now since they would easily be one of the worst defensive and rebounding teams in the league with huge redundancy of offense since Lebron/Reaves already had the offense under control and now Luka takes that up.
[QUOTE=StrongLurk;14974457]It's amazing for Lakers fans long term. Terrible for the Bron stans this year.
But I made the same post. As currently structured, Lakers are trash now since they would easily be one of the worst defensive and rebounding teams in the league with huge redundancy of offense since Lebron/Reaves already had the offense under control and now Luka takes that up.[/QUOTE]
Yeah and the 2nd unit with Bron was struggling to hold leads as is, and how long is gonna take for Luka to get back to where he was last year? Lakers are in a good position seeding-wise right now but they're probably gonna lose some games here until they figure this thing out. I have to imagine we're getting another trade here before the deadline to make this Bron-Doncic combo work.
Can you imagine criticizing Luka's playoff track record as an EMBIID fan
:roll:
[video=youtube;p0qqg9FnZrw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qqg9FnZrw&ab_channel=ESPN[/video]
Bring up the bubble all you want, but this is genuinely a more impressive performance than Embiid's ever had in the playoffs, and he did it at 21.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14974464]Can you imagine criticizing Luka's playoff track record as an EMBIID fan
:roll:
[video=youtube;p0qqg9FnZrw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qqg9FnZrw&ab_channel=ESPN[/video]
Bring up the bubble all you want, but this is genuinely a more impressive performance than Embiid's ever had in the playoffs, and he did it at 21.[/QUOTE]
Gobb has proven to be out of touch with today's league time and time again.
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14974462]Yeah and the 2nd unit with Bron was struggling to hold leads as is, and how long is gonna take for Luka to get back to where he was last year? Lakers are in a good position seeding-wise right now but they're probably gonna lose some games here until they figure this thing out. I have to imagine we're getting another trade here before the deadline to make this Bron-Doncic combo work.[/QUOTE]
Even if the Lakers get a rotational level big man, they will still suck and clearly got worse than before. They literally just needed a good back up C with AD and they become legit title contenders.
I have no idea what's possible for next year, but maybe they do have plans to rebuild their big man lineup and actually get a starting caliber PF and Center somehow. Then I could see this team become interesting next year, but as things stand this year, they are trash unless they can get a very good replacement for AD.
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14974464]Can you imagine criticizing Luka's playoff track record as an EMBIID fan
:roll:
[video=youtube;p0qqg9FnZrw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qqg9FnZrw&ab_channel=ESPN[/video]
Bring up the bubble all you want, but this is genuinely a more impressive performance than Embiid's ever had in the playoffs, and he did it at 21.[/QUOTE]
Look who's out there on the floor with him.
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Seth Curry.
Boban.
:lol
And hes out there schooling prime Kawhi and PG.
Meanwhile up in Philly reporters are making Embiid cry :roll:
[QUOTE=GOBB;14974449]Yeah embiid can’t get past rd 2. Getting a rd further in 22 is cool. [B]Just not a deciding factor in terms of who has more value to me.[/B] I forgot the crazy run in 22.[/QUOTE]
What would be the deciding factor then, based on how their careers have played out?
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents;14974464]Can you imagine criticizing Luka's playoff track record as an EMBIID fan
:roll:
[video=youtube;p0qqg9FnZrw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qqg9FnZrw&ab_channel=ESPN[/video]
Bring up the bubble all you want, but this is genuinely a more impressive performance than Embiid's ever had in the playoffs, and he did it at 21.[/QUOTE]
Luka has had some playoff moments for sure. Moreso than Embiid. When it comes to production Luka has him there. When I see the word “success” I attribute that to winning. 29-30 is embiid and 25-25 is Luka. I forgot about the playoff run where he looked like the euro Bron. He is a top performer when it comes to the playoffs whereas Embiid has had dud moments. No comparison there. Luka was just traded for Davis. Davis is not better than Embiid. Davis has same injury woes as Embiid. Ijs
[QUOTE=Phoenix;14974469]What would be the deciding factor then, based on how their careers have played out?[/QUOTE]
It would be age. Embiid is in his prime and that window is closing. Luka has another 6 seasons before we start questioning if he’s on a decline. But this is me not factoring in his health (weight/conditioning/injury). His age makes me sweep that stuff under the rug until his age doesn’t anymore.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14974465]Gobb has proven to be out of touch with today's league time and time again.[/QUOTE]
The difference between me and you beta males here is I can admit being wrong, making an error etc and owning it. You on the other hand will spin like a figure skater because your pride won’t allow such a thing. I’ve seen me box you in a corner and you try to weasel your way out. Instead of owning you were got and be done with it. I lose absolutely nothing by leaving out Luka WC appearance. You dude are too fragile you’d argue around it.
17 years to the day of the Gasol trade
Embiid forgets how to play in the playoffs, the big shrivel.
Routinely gets abused by guys like al horford and bricks layups :lol
As if anyone would trade anything of value for that dud. Career loser and a joke.
Lakers got their new franchise player for the next decade. WTF drugs are the mavs on. When glass man Davis is on he’s great, that’s only half the time though at best. Usually he’s injured or playing like a pu.ss
Must be something else going on
[QUOTE=GOBB;14974476]The difference between me and you beta males here is I can admit being wrong, making an error etc and owning it. You on the other hand will spin like a figure skater because your pride won’t allow such a thing.[B] I’ve seen me box you in a corner and you try to weasel your way out. Instead of owning you were got and be done with it.[/B] I lose absolutely nothing by leaving out Luka WC appearance. You dude are too fragile you’d argue around it.[/QUOTE]
Other way around buddy. Remember when I posted a list from 2010 and you thought it was current? :oldlol:
It is definitely odd that Nico went STRAIGHT to Pelinka to target AD. Nico knows both Pelinka and AD well. Definitely could be some level of collusion here.
OR, the Mavs this Luka will be a load managed, out of shape, injury proned player for the rest of his career and the Mavs don't want to pay a supermax for a player like this.
Just...wow.
[QUOTE=warriorfan;14974070]I think this is fake news. Someone bit on a bad source.
Makes no sense for Dallas to do this.[/QUOTE]
Has anyone checked on this guy? Hasn't been seen since.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14974480]Other way around buddy. Remember when I posted a list from 2010 and you thought it was current? :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Remember when you posted your “goats” they were lackluster in the playoffs? One of which you never seen play in person (Jim brown)? Or how you didn’t have Emmitt in your top 5 rb all time even tho he is the career leader in rushing yards, tds for RBs in the regular and post season? Even tho your arguments were based on that plus pointing out who blocked better (Emmitt was one of the best doing that btw). Nowhere to be found. Bunch of spin cycles on how your top RBs of all time came up short in the postseason for a career. Yanno since you can’t comprehend being the best ever at a position isn’t solely based on postseason success.
Yeah I dog walked you and you moved the goal posts so much. It was funny to watch.
[QUOTE=GOBB;14974489]Remember when you posted your “goats” they were lackluster in the playoffs? One of which you never seen play in person (Jim brown)? Or how you didn’t have Emmitt in your top 5 rb all time even tho he is the career leader in rushing yards, tds for RBs in the regular and post season? Even tho your arguments were based on that plus pointing out who blocked better (Emmitt was one of the best doing that btw). Nowhere to be found. Bunch of spin cycles on how your top RBs of all time came up short in the postseason for a career. Yanno since you can’t comprehend being the best ever at a position isn’t solely based on postseason success.
Yeah I dog walked you and you moved the goal posts so much. It was funny to watch.[/QUOTE]
I remember you calling LT a poor playoff performer while not knowing he was injured for two playoff runs in his prime, then you then kept moving the goal posts to other running backs which I continued to make a fool out of you.
Good times.
[QUOTE=coin24;14974479][B]Embiid forgets how to play in the playoffs,[/B] the big shrivel.
Routinely gets abused by guys like al horford and bricks layups :lol
As if anyone would trade anything of value for that dud. Career loser and a joke.
Lakers got their new franchise player for the next decade. WTF drugs are the mavs on. When glass man Davis is on he’s great, that’s only half the time though at best. Usually he’s injured or playing like a pu.ss
Must be something else going on[/QUOTE]
To be fair, so did Luka in 2023.
It aint been all peaches and cream.
[QUOTE=StrongLurk;14974482]It is definitely odd that Nico went STRAIGHT to Pelinka to target AD. Nico knows both Pelinka and AD well. Definitely could be some level of collusion here.
OR, the Mavs this Luka will be a load managed, out of shape, injury proned player for the rest of his career and the Mavs don't want to pay a supermax for a player like this.
Just...wow.[/QUOTE]
If they couldn't make a deal they wouldn't want it to get out that they had offered Doncic. That's one of the benefits of doing a trade with a friendly front office,
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14974491]I remember you calling LT a poor playoff performer while not knowing he was injured for two playoff runs in his prime, then you then kept moving the goal posts to other running backs which I continued to make a fool out of you.
Good times.[/QUOTE]
131 carries for 468 yards (3.5ypc ewwww) 7 touchdowns in his career for Tomlinson
66 carries 241yds 1td 3.7ypc in playoffs for Jim Brown. Your 2nd best rb of all time.
You disappeared so fast supporting this. Great time. Heard they named a hill after you from dying on it so much
[QUOTE=GOBB;14974395]*scrolls*
What post season success does Luka have exactly? First rd exits until last season.
Injury prone? The guy is a fat American and he’s not American. Explain that to me.
Defense? About as non existent as Embiid in a back to back.
When you list the top 5 players in the NBA past 2-3 seasons Luka and Embiid are mentioned. How you rank them? That is on you. Both aren’t winners of anything besides stats and accolades. One is younger and competed with Zion on the scale. The other compete with Anthony Davis in the training room.
Preference and personal bias aside. Luka vslue is not more than Embiid. Certainly not Maxey and Embiid.[/QUOTE]
Your inherent bias/racism is showing.
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14974505]Your inherent bias/racism is showing.[/QUOTE]
This coming from you? Hold my beer while I laugh uncontrollably.
No racism being showed on my end. Just selective reading by your as always. Luka was just traded for Anthony Davis. But me saying I think Luka for embiid is fair trade value? I’m racist. Got it.
[QUOTE=JohnnySic;14974435]LOL. That's all the Mavs could get for Luka? Anthony "empty stats bro" Davis? :oldlol:
Some teams deserve to stay in the toilet.[/QUOTE]
What toilet dummie? Mavs have been very successful for 2.5 decades.
gobb is literally the worst poster of all time :lol