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[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14995963]He did what they always do when put in a hard spot. WHATABOUTSIM
"do any of you ever question Trump?"
Baller234: *ignores the question entirely* "what about you though?"[/QUOTE]Exactly. You tried to reply in good faith and said something positive about Trump under his terms in a game he created where he's keeping score. Did he reciprocate? Nope.
He got you there. JS.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14995963]He did what they always do when put in a hard spot. WHATABOUTSIM
"do any of you ever question Trump?"
Baller234: *ignores the question entirely* "what about you though?"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=baller234]DON'T QUESTION MY DEAR LEADER[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14995965]Did he reciprocate? Nope.
[/QUOTE]
proving he is in a cult
1-0 me
[QUOTE=RRR3;14995959]Banned :roll:[/QUOTE]
What a shit forum. You get a guy like lakers spewing nonsense and insults about peoples weight and gets away with it
Then warrior makes fun of taco by saying hes low iq and gets banned
[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14996093]What a shit forum. You get a guy like lakers spewing nonsense and insults about peoples weight and gets away with it
Then warrior makes fun of taco by saying hes low iq and gets banned[/QUOTE]
I know you refer to me as TheTacoMan (how original) but it wasn't me he made fun of, dummy. It was aimed at Bill Gates. You really are quite dim, aren't you? Besides, warriorfan adds nothing but ad hominem attacks and racial slurs, he adds nothing but toxicity here. Still I ain't a snitch and all his racial slurs I have never reported him.
[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14995964]I don't think anyone here is rooting for China. People want Trump to 'win' because he's the president, he represents us and if he wins we will do well; but that doesn't mean you just sit there and pretend everything he's doing is okay and mock any kind of criticism that comes his way. Let's review what objectively happened:
Trump ups tariffs to China to 34%, China does nothing.
Trump ups tariffs to China to 84%, China matches.
Trump ups tariffs to China to 145%, China matches again.
Trump announces he wants Xi to call him, China does nothing.
Trump announces he's ready to make a deal, China does nothing.
Trump rolls back tariffs.
If this is the guy closing a merger for a firm you're working for you're probably sweating and putting your resume out there in preparation, not defending him. All the while the tariffs are hurting small businesses and american consumers.[/QUOTE]
Plenty to criticize Trump for, like not considering excluding tariffs on auto parts or various electronics to begin with.
Wiki says your timeline is off.
[QUOTE]February 1: President Trump increased tariffs on China by 10%.
February 4: China responded with a 15% tariff on coal and liquified natural gas products, and 10% on crude oil, agricultural machinery and large-displacement cars.
March 3: President Trump raised levies on Chinese goods by another 10% to a cumulative 20%. He also implemented new 25% tariffs on imports from Mexico and Canada, thereby initiating new trade disputes with the three primary US trading partners.[252]
March 4: China retaliated by imposing a 15% tariff on chicken, wheat, corn, and cotton originating in the United States;[253] and a 10% tariff on sorghum, soybeans, pork, beef, aquatic products, fruits, vegetables, and dairy products originating in the United States, effective on March 10, 2025.[254][255]
April 2: Trump raised the tariffs on China by another 34%, after accusing China of tariff and non-tariff trade barriers of 67% as part of his reciprocal tariffs policy, expressed during his "Liberation Day" speech.[256][257] The White House confirmed tariffs would stack on top of previous impositions, resulting in an effective tariff rate of 54% on all Chinese imports to the US beginning in one week.[258]
April 4: China announced that it would impose additional tariffs of 34% on all US goods effective April 10.[259]
April 7: Trump threatened to impose an additional 50% tariff on Chinese goods on April 9 if China did not withdraw its retaliatory measure of a 34% tariff on all US goods by 8 April. This would boost the effective 54% tariffs on China on April 9 to 104%.[260]
April 9: China responded with retaliatory tariffs of 84% on US goods.[261] In response, Trump increased tariffs on Chinese goods to 125% on the same day. However, the White House clarified the next day that the tariff rate had risen to 145%.[18]
April 11: China, in retaliation, announced an increase in tariffs on all American imports from the previous 84% to 125%, set to take effect on April 12.[262]
April 11: The US announces reciprocal tariffs will exclude consumer electronics from tariffs from most countries, but retains a 20% tariff on electronics from China.[263]
April 11: China suspended exports of a wide range of minerals and magnets critical to auto, defense, aerospace, and semiconductor industries; the Chinese government plans to introduce a new regulatory system to prevent access to American companies.[264][/QUOTE]
China just cancelled 12,000 metric tons of US pork, and decided to buy from Spain and Europe instead.
So basically China made deals with other countries before cutting off supply. Opposite of what Trump has been doing, which has been randomly shutting off supply at 3am on Twitter.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14995803]Well it took like 60 years to move all those jobs to Asia, so it's going to take a while to get some of them back again.
The way tariffs are laid out now won't be how they're laid out once new trade deals are made. [/quote]
you don't know that. you're giving trump to much benefit of the doubt. approach everyone and everything with skepticism and questions, remember? in the end if credit is due? whether it be trump, biden, democrat or republican - by all means.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;14995803]
Do you only assume that negative things will happen in the future?[/quote]
mmm... yeah. can you blame me?
edit: and btw that wasn't a reference to orange man being bad but rather just in a general sense.
[QUOTE=n00bie;14996241]China just cancelled 12,000 metric tons of US pork, and decided to buy from Spain and Europe instead.
So basically China made deals with other countries before cutting off supply. Opposite of what Trump has been doing, which has been randomly shutting off supply at 3am on Twitter.[/QUOTE]
Oh no. 12000 metric tons for a population of 1.5b
AI Overview
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Yes, Spain is a major exporter of pork, especially to China. In 2023, Spain was the leading exporter of pig meat, with exports valued at $6.54 billion. Spain is also a significant exporter to China, with pork accounting for a large percentage of their total pork exports and a significant portion of China's total pork imports.
So nothing has changed
[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14996261]Oh no. 12000 metric tons for a population of 1.5b
AI Overview
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Yes, Spain is a major exporter of pork, especially to China. In 2023, Spain was the leading exporter of pig meat, with exports valued at $6.54 billion. Spain is also a significant exporter to China, with pork accounting for a large percentage of their total pork exports and a significant portion of China's total pork imports.
So nothing has changed[/QUOTE] You would be on a dem president like crazy if they botched this deal, but because it’s your guy then it’s “hey it’s a small deal anyway”. C’mon Carl, you went to Berkeley. You’re smarter than this.
[QUOTE=j3lademaster;14996313]You would be on a dem president like crazy if they botched this deal, but because it’s your guy then it’s “hey it’s a small deal anyway”. C’mon Carl, you went to Berkeley. You’re smarter than this.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree with trumps tariffs dummy.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14995963]He did what they always do when put in a hard spot. WHATABOUTSIM
"do any of you ever question Trump?"
Baller234: *ignores the question entirely* "what about you though?"[/QUOTE]
What more proof do you need that I'm not a blind Trump follower? I'm not the one who's vaccinated. You are.
I told myself from the jump that I wasn't going to get vaccinated when Trump was in office. Didn't matter if he was behind it or not. What do I remember though is [B]democrats[/B] swearing up and down that it wasn't going to be safe. The most prominent figures in the democratic party were the ones repeating this narrative. You all know it. You were there. This was the gameplan for democrats all the way up until November 2020.
By January 2021 a mere 2 months later the dems were singing the complete opposite tune. Now not only was the vaccine Safe & Effective(TM) but you were a bad person for not wanting to get it. You're a racist, a bigot, a plague spreader and you wanted to kill everyone around you.
So I'm sorry Bill Gates but you can't have it both ways. If you genuinely approve of the way Trump handled the vaccine, which you just admitted, then that means by default the democrats were committing an act of unspeakable evil. They were trying to scare the average american from taking a potentially live saving vaccine purely over politics and not wanting the other guy to score the W.
So let's see who's in the cult:
[B]Baller234[/B]
- Said no to the vaccine when Trump was president
- Said no to the vaccine when Biden was president
[B]Sheep Democrats[/B]
- Said no to the vaccine when Trump was president
- Said yes to the vaccine when Biden was president
Now you're claiming you never said no to the vaccine even when Trump was president. Okay so by that rationale the democrats are evil scum fukks who intentionally deceived the public and played politics with people's lives.
Yet here you are still carrying water for them...
....
....
Odd indeed.
[QUOTE=BigKobeFan;14996261]Oh no. 12000 metric tons for a population of 1.5b
AI Overview
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Yes, Spain is a major exporter of pork, especially to China. In 2023, Spain was the leading exporter of pig meat, with exports valued at $6.54 billion. Spain is also a significant exporter to China, with pork accounting for a large percentage of their total pork exports and a significant portion of China's total pork imports.
So nothing has changed[/QUOTE]
That was ONE order.
[QUOTE=n00bie;14996348]That was ONE order.[/QUOTE]
How many are imported yearly?
[QUOTE=TeflonDonTrump;14996330]I don't agree with trumps tariffs dummy.[/QUOTE]
Lol wrong account.
[QUOTE=TeflonDonTrump;14996330]I don't agree with trumps tariffs [B]dummy[/B].[/QUOTE]
Don't be like that, Carl. We had good times playing intramural basketball.
trump and cash --- i am rich
[url]https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2436460449806706&rdid=J5aGKoTJwqbPGBtU[/url]
[video=youtube;h20gTOUBZYc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h20gTOUBZYc[/video]
[QUOTE=TeflonDonTrump;14996330]I don't agree with trumps tariffs dummy.[/QUOTE]
You deep throated Trump’s tariffs
I'm convinced OP is trolling at this point with his idiotic videos that show an alternate reality. :lol
[video=youtube;PRaOud_ydaA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRaOud_ydaA&t[/video]
We win again fam!
[QUOTE=TheMan;14998236]I'm convinced OP is trolling at this point with his idiotic videos that show an alternate reality. :lol[/QUOTE]
Says the guy who wrongly reported Trump was lowering tariffs on China.
[QUOTE=TheMan;14995350][video=youtube_share;NLYedVBviu0]https://youtu.be/NLYedVBviu0?si=aFITzkfcTTXiLW39[/video]
:roll:
We win again fam :lol[/QUOTE]
Epic fail
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14998240]Says the guy who wrongly reported Trump was lowering tariffs on China.
Epic fail[/QUOTE]
Trump himself said he was lowering tariffs bro, I didn't make that up :roll:
[QUOTE=TheMan;14998246]Trump himself said he was lowering tariffs bro, I didn't make that up :roll:[/QUOTE]
:yaohappy:
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14998240]Says the guy who wrongly reported Trump was lowering tariffs on China.
Epic fail[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube_share;iEGgHbmk6pU]https://youtu.be/iEGgHbmk6pU?si=r4_NjOVx1Rv7On_M[/video]
You goofball, straight from Trump's mouth :roll:
19-87 IQ :roll:
[QUOTE=TheMan;14998246]Trump himself said he was lowering tariffs bro, I didn't make that up :roll:[/QUOTE]
Wrong, he said he would lower once him and China start talking which is already happening. China themselves is already lowering. You actually thought he was lowering them last week. Epic fail.
[video=youtube_share;qozD-2jjlS4]https://youtu.be/qozD-2jjlS4[/video]
We win again fam!!
NachoMan cooked again as he doesn't get the shot off in time.
Trump rally in Michigan tonight
:rockon:
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14998305]Wrong, he said he would lower once him and China start talking which is already happening. China themselves is already lowering. You actually thought he was lowering them last week. Epic fail.
[video=youtube_share;qozD-2jjlS4]https://youtu.be/qozD-2jjlS4[/video]
We win again fam!![/QUOTE]
Lol, they aren't talking yet. Just because Trump says they are you actually believe someone who lies profusely? Wow.
[video=youtube_share;FSSF86YeNvI]https://youtu.be/FSSF86YeNvI?si=8U3j4xQ1UBfYA7-F[/video]
Even Secretary of Treasury Scott Bessent said he's not aware of any talks between China and the US. Pathetic you believe a pathological liar and believe what he says, hook, line and sinker :lol
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14998322]NachoMan cooked again as he doesn't get the shot off in time.
Trump rally in Michigan tonight
:rockon:[/QUOTE]
Boomer is a low IQ MAGA cultist
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14998305]Wrong, he said he would lower once him and China start talking which is already happening. China themselves is already lowering. You actually thought he was lowering them last week. Epic fail.
[video=youtube_share;qozD-2jjlS4]https://youtu.be/qozD-2jjlS4[/video]
We win again fam!![/QUOTE]
You are a clueless sheep.
China isn't talking with Trump or negotiating. While Trump is sitting around lying about xi calling him and lying about ongoing negotiations, China flat out said they are not calling Trump and won't be backing down and urging all developing markets to not deal with Trump.
[QUOTE]China vows to stand firm, urges nations to resist ‘bully’ Trump
Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said appeasement will only embolden the “bully” at a BRICS meeting, rallying the group of emerging-market nations to fight back against US levies.
China’s top diplomat warned countries against caving into US tariff threats, as the Trump administration hints at the possible use of new trade tools to pressure Beijing.
Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said appeasement will only embolden the “bully” at a BRICS meeting, rallying the group of emerging-market nations to fight back against US levies. The stern remarks show China intends to resist pressure to enter trade talks even as US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent suggests Washington could ban certain exports to China to gain leverage.
Wang’s call to the international community underscores China’s attempt to portray itself as the bastion of free trade as US tariffs threaten to reshape commerce globally. Beijing has repeatedly urged allies to defend multilateralism and told other governments not to cut deals with the US president at China’s expense. China has repeatedly denied being engaged in trade talks with the US. Instead, Beijing has demanded mutual respect and a cancellation of all tariffs before any negotiations.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1kadl0p/china_officially_makes_statement_stating_that_all/[/url]
Poor Blade.... he'd believe a broken clock is right 24hrs a day before he'd believe anything his President says.
Neither side is ever going to publicly admit they have a weak hand. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;14998407]Poor Blade.... he'd believe a broken clock is right 24hrs a day before he'd believe [B]anything his President says[/B].[/QUOTE]
:roll:
[QUOTE=BurningHammer;14998414]:roll:[/QUOTE]
"Why won't you believe what Dear Leader says?" :oldlol:
[QUOTE=RRR3;14998415]"Why won't you believe what Dear Leader says?" :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Please believe my Dear Leader :cry: :cry: :cry:
The MAGA cult is a real thing :lol Delusional bunch of low IQ cucks
Same people calling Trump a liar are the same people believing everything China is saying. Let that sink in.
This is the same communist country that lies about its own population and economic gains. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14998527]Same people calling Trump a liar are the same people believing everything China is saying. Let that sink in.
This is the same communist country that lies about its own population and economic gains. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
I think China lies to it's people just like America lies to it's people.
Let's be honest, if for whatever reason Trump were losing the poker game, it's not like he would ever admit it. He can't. That defeats the purpose of the game. The same applies to China. Both sides are going to spin W's as L's and L's as W's.
The people on this forum rooting against Trump right now aren't really concerned about the stock market. I doubt they even have much money in the stock market. I'm also guessing that mostly everyone here is far from retirement age. So don't tell me that now all of a sudden they have a personal stake in this when just a few short years ago they were the ones on the other side doing everything they could to wreck the economy. Not only that, they did with glee and with a smile.
All in the name of saving lives of course, just not during protest season.
Is the 4chan community promoting sinophobia these days? :ohwell:
[video=youtube;o3izc4LuFag]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3izc4LuFag[/video]
11:06 mark. Caught red handed talking to the USA about a deal. :oldlol:
Trump haters really believed everything China was telling them. Sad.