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[video=youtube;uozvOW-wFRk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uozvOW-wFRk[/video]
The political content creator industrial complex is real.
How much you think Owen’s and everyone else in the political podcast sphere is making of this event?
Reminds me of this……..
[video=youtube_share;bsRTsiKPI2M]https://youtu.be/bsRTsiKPI2M[/video]
LMAO
The political content creator industrial complex is real.
How much you think Owen’s and everyone else in the political podcast sphere is making of this event?
Reminds me of this……..
[video=youtube_share;bsRTsiKPI2M]https://youtu.be/bsRTsiKPI2M[/video]
LMAO
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;15035074]Guy went from getting 2k views a video to all of a sudden 10s of thousands and now hundreds of thousands pushing Kirk conspiracies.
The market for gullible conspiracy theorists is massive.
I remember when I was like 10 or 11 I would binge watch videos like these and thought I was the smartest person in the world because I knew secrets nobody else did.
Crazy there's a large % of the population who operate on a 10 year olds level when it comes to interpreting how the world works.[/QUOTE]
It is true that conspiracy theorists are always the dumbest people, completely lost internet fantasy land. Incapable of seeing how dumb it all is.
This one feels a little different though due the oddness of the texts and it feels like the perfect situation for leftist hate, trans engraved bullets and all. And Kirk seems like a very expendable person to sacrifice. He was of no real importance to anything.
But also, if it was a false flag event, Tyler Robinson would be dead. Things do not add up for that either. So I am leaning toward him being legit, but at the same time I understand why people would question this one.
Also people need to understand that Candance Owens, Tucker, people like them. Alex Jones, Andrew Tate, Tim Pool and everyone else with a podcast or show. Their ratings come first and foremost. They spur controversy for themselves. Not to get supposed truth out. They want ratings. Anything that causes angry debate equates to dollars for them.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035133]It is true that conspiracy theorists are always the dumbest people, completely lost internet fantasy land. Incapable of seeing how dumb it all is.
This one feels a little different though due the oddness of the texts and it feels like the perfect situation for leftist hate, trans engraved bullets and all. And Kirk seems like a very expendable person to sacrifice. He was of no real importance to anything.
But also, if it was a false flag event, Tyler Robinson would be dead. Things do not add up for that either. So I am leaning toward him being legit, but at the same time I understand why people would question this one.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't feel weird at all. If it was some staged event to generate hate for leftists (which is an outrageous notion to begin with... hey let's involve ourselves in a planned murder in plain daylight and risk everything for the sake of people believing it was a leftist... let's leave it vague too and make sure he's unregistered white kid in a republican family to really blur the lines)
Do you even understand how ****ing stupid that sounds? The FBI/Government is in on a conspiracy to kill some young political guy who is out there helping their cause? They purposely waited multiple days to find the shooter (makes them look real competent) and decided to find a guy whose political background is incredibly vague?
For what? To generate tranny hate? Sounds legit! Let's plan a murder for the sake of generating vague tranny hate. :roll:
If you believe this event is a conspiracy in any way shape or form then you are ****ing stupid. Period.
Yeah, I am just going to agree that it is pretty stupid. The republican parents wouldn't make any sense at all, and there are probably a lot of older Republicans that can relate to having a liberal child. It did effectively erase the Epstein drama from social media. But Trump isn't up for reelection so I don't think his approval even matters any more.
It is just really hard to read those text messages and not think "lol really!?"
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035145]Yeah, I am just going to agree that it is pretty stupid. The republican parents wouldn't make any sense at all, and there are probably a lot of older Republicans that can relate to having a liberal child. It did effectively erase the Epstein drama from social media. But Trump isn't up for reelection so I don't think his approval even matters any more.
It is just really hard to read those text messages and not think "lol really!?"[/QUOTE]
But again - you simply have to ask why. Why would the FBI create fake texts, and why would the prosecutors risk their careers by presenting fake evidence in a court of law? If they were fake texts thats the first thing the defense attorneys would bring up and they would be easy to prove they were fake.
It makes absolutely zero sense for the FBI to generate fake texts in this context. And even the texts themselves are vague. It's not like he's saying "I'm a far left lunatic and all MAGA must die" which is what you would expect if they were fabricated to create a strong narrative. It turns out some autistic kid who was willing to murder a political pundit for the sake of white knighting for his tranny bf talks in a weird manner and describes what he did in a very detailed autistic way. End of story.
Why this is hard for people to understand is beyond me. This is the most cut and dry case imaginable.
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;15035147]It's not like he's saying "I'm a far left lunatic and all MAGA must die" which is what you would expect if they were fabricated to create a strong narrative. [/QUOTE]
He should've texted: "It's important for you to understand the Jewish Mafia had nothing to do with this, It was all me"
I think you guys are failing to understand that Zion owns America.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035134]Also people need to understand that Candance Owens, Tucker, people like them. Alex Jones, Andrew Tate, Tim Pool and everyone else with a podcast or show. Their ratings come first and foremost. They spur controversy for themselves. Not to get supposed truth out. They want ratings. Anything that causes angry debate equates to dollars for them.[/QUOTE]
Right, because going against the Zionist Community is so profitable?
[video=youtube_share;hQCVkssWiiE]https://youtu.be/hQCVkssWiiE[/video]
Israel has a lot of influence over the US. That doesn't mean that every notable gun death in the US is Israel.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035152]Israel has a lot of influence over the US. That doesn't mean that every notable gun death in the US is Israel.[/QUOTE]
No, but Israel seems to be connected to every notable conspiracy.
Was it Jack Ruby that killed Oswald? Jack Ruby was his real name right? Hell, I'm surprised Epstein didn't have an alias.
Laughing at the idea of Trump being a Russian asset. How's that conspiracy theory working out for the left?
We damn near have proof that Trump has been compromised.... Israel owns the presidency.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15035156]No, but Israel seems to be connected to every notable conspiracy.
Was it Jack Ruby that killed Oswald? Jack Ruby was his real name right? Hell, I'm surprised Epstein didn't have an alias.
Laughing at the idea of Trump being a Russian asset. How's that conspiracy theory working out for the left?
We damn near have proof that Trump has been compromised.... Israel owns the presidency.[/QUOTE]
None of this hints that Israel gave the slightest care for Charlie Kirk.
That kind of flimsy logic is why conspiracy theorists look dumb. Actually it's not "flimsy" it just isn't anything at all.
Imagine if at the Tyler Robinson trial his defense led with "But your honor, Jack Ruby was Jewish an look at Trump Russia!"
He'd get kicked out of the court room for being the dumbest person there.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035159]That kind of flimsy logic is why conspiracy theorists look dumb. Actually it's not "flimsy" it just isn't anything at all.
Imagine if at the Tyler Robinson trial his defense led with "But your honor, Jack Ruby was Jewish an look at Trump Russia!"
He'd get kicked out of the court room for being the dumbest person there.[/QUOTE]
right now the public is to believe Charlie Kirk was Superman and the fact that he had no exit wound is miraculous... explain that one in court.
People that believe stupid $hit like that is what makes y'all look dumb.
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[video=youtube_share;Th-s3dbboJQ]https://youtu.be/Th-s3dbboJQ[/video]
Yeah they fake killed with a different magic bullet. Just for fun. That makes sense.
No it just proves that the bullet came from a different location.... genius.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15035070]He was shot from the back.
[video=youtube;MbaQadkqkzI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbaQadkqkzI&t[/video][/QUOTE]
The blood that poured out of his neck was the exit wound.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15035163]No it just proves that the bullet came from a different location.... genius.
The blood that poured out of his neck was the exit wound.[/QUOTE]
Then there would be an entry wound. And you are suggesting that Tyler Robinson was framed, by shooter from the other side? Which is completely illogical in several different ways.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035164]Then there would be an entry wound. And you are suggesting that Tyler Robinson was framed, by shooter from the other side? Which is completely illogical in several different ways.[/QUOTE]
Ok I can't do this anymore.... watch the video.
the entry wound was from the back of the head, implying he was shot from the side... not a direct straight shot.
[img]https://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/LoseeStudentCenterShooting.jpg[/img]
or you can believe this:
[quote] "in this case, the fact that there wasn't an exit wound is probably another miracle."
"I just spoke with the surgeon who worked on Charlie in the hospital…"
He said the bullet "absolutely should have gone through, which is very very normal for a high powered, high velocity round. I've seen wounds from this caliber many times and they always just go through everything. This would have taken a moose or two down, an elk, etc."
But it didn't go through. Charlie's body stopped it.
I mentioned to his doctor that there were dozens of staff, students, and special guests standing directly behind Charlie on the other side of the tent, and he replied: "It was an absolute miracle that someone else didn't get killed."
"His bone was so healthy and the density was so so impressive that he's like the man of steel. It should have just gone through and through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too."
In the end, the coroner did find the bullet just beneath the skin. Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him.
Remarkable.
Miraculous.
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[url]https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/9/21/2344740/-MAGA-s-latest-absurdity-Man-of-Steel-Charlie-Kirk-s-dense-bones-saved-lives[/url]
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15035165]Ok I can't do this anymore.... watch the video.
the entry wound was from the back of the head, implying he was shot from the side... not a direct straight shot.
[img]https://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/LoseeStudentCenterShooting.jpg[/img]
or you can believe this:
[url]https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/9/21/2344740/-MAGA-s-latest-absurdity-Man-of-Steel-Charlie-Kirk-s-dense-bones-saved-lives[/url][/QUOTE]
serious question DOOMS, are you having trouble accepting that the shooter is white?
because I have never seen you bring up conspiracy theories when the suspect is a minority, which of course is a rare occurrence I admit.
Like Alt Account said -
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;15035147]But again - you simply have to ask why. [/QUOTE]
In your theory nothing makes sense.
1. Framing Tyler Robinson as the shooter makes zero sense. Why?
2. Placing the real shooter at a completely different angle makes zero sense.
3. If the surgeon was in on it? He wouldn't say it was a miraculous miracle. He would say that is normal.
All of these weird hoops, for what? It's illogical
[QUOTE=highwhey;15035166]serious question DOOMS, are you having trouble accepting that the shooter is white?
because I have never seen you bring up conspiracy theories when the suspect is a minority, which of course is a rare occurrence I admit.[/QUOTE]
I'm having trouble with the people that are so desperate to believe the official story.... over and over and over and over and over again.
Same story... believe the Feds, believe the Government, You're crazy to ask questions or speculate.... rinse & repeat.
[video=youtube_share;2nmGS8rVuIM]https://youtu.be/2nmGS8rVuIM[/video]
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035167]Like Alt Account said -
In your theory nothing makes sense.
1. Framing Tyler Robinson as the shooter makes zero sense. Why?
2. Placing the real shooter at a completely different angle makes zero sense.
3. If the surgeon was in on it? He wouldn't say it was a miraculous miracle. He would say that is normal.
All of these weird hoops, for what? It's illogical[/QUOTE]
Who gives a f*ck about my theory?
Do the Texts look like complete bull$hit? YES.
Does the shot appear to come from a different angle?.... Is the neck an exit wound?.... YES.
Is there a Motive for somebody in a strong position of power to kill Charlie? YES.
Is anybody believing the FBI right now (especially after Epstein)? NO.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035167]1. Framing Tyler Robinson as the shooter makes zero sense. Why?[/QUOTE]
You got to frame somebody.... right? If you don't, and the killer gets away, Feds look incompetent and conspiracy talk would be 10X worse... got to make a Left vs Right issue. And they've done just that.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035167]2. Placing the real shooter at a completely different angle makes zero sense.[/QUOTE]
Why? Who's gonna disagree? You and many other's are going to believe the Feds over your own two eyes.
Majority of the witnesses in Dallas thought the shot that killed Kennedy came from the Grassy Knoll... why not just kill him from the 6th floor?
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035167]3. If the surgeon was in on it? He wouldn't say it was a miraculous miracle. He would say that is normal.[/QUOTE]
You can't do that when every gun owner in America that goes hunting knows it's not normal.... and Candace has seen the footage of the camera in the back, so that video does exist.
Ah yes, they prepped a fake surgeon to answer the questions that will arise from their nonsensical decision to place a real shooter somewhere completely different instead of next to Robinson. :oldlol:
That acter surgeon had to say it's a miracle, because they knew, that everyone would be perplexed at no exist wound.
And then of course Israel wanted to keep Robinson alive. They'll kill everyone else, but not him, the one person who could do them in. :oldlol:
Completely air-tight theory here.
If Israel for some weird reason decided to focus on Charlie Kirk of all people, Robinson would be the one that actually pulls the trigger. And then he'd be dead from police fire or self inflicted wound right after.
No actors involved, no second shooters, no weird angles, no questions, no nothing. Clean and simple.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035176]Ah yes, they prepped a fake surgeon to answer the questions that will arise from their nonsensical decision to place a real shooter somewhere completely different instead of next to Robinson. :oldlol:
That acter surgeon had to say it's a miracle, because they knew, that everyone would be perplexed at no exist wound.
And then of course Israel wanted to keep Robinson alive. They'll kill everyone else, but not him, the one person who could do them in. :oldlol:
Completely air-tight theory here.[/QUOTE]
Surgeons are not supposed to give statements like that.
[I]A surgeon is required to make statements about a patient to the patient themselves, their family (with the patient's consent), and other medical professionals involved in the patient's treatment. However, they are legally and ethically prohibited from discussing a patient's protected health information (PHI) with unauthorized individuals due to confidentiality laws. [/I]
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035177]
No actors involved, no second shooters, no weird angles, no questions, no nothing. Clean and simple.[/QUOTE]
There's a flip side to that coin... If there was no conspiracy then it wouldn't smell like Complete Bull$hit.
and make no mistake about it.... the entire thing smells like $hit.
lucky for us we have the most competent Federal Investigators who have never been guilty of ridiculous conspiracies in the past.
That's your problem. All you know is that "it smells like bullshit". You don't care if it actually makes any sense at all or not. You consistently cross the line where your story is far more ridiculous than their story is and you are incapable of seeing it.
[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15035183]That's your problem. All you know is that "it smells like bullshit". You don't care if it actually makes any sense at all or not. You consistently cross the line where your story is far more ridiculous than their story is and you are incapable of seeing it.[/QUOTE]
No.... everybody and their mother believes the texts (that are not time stamped) are bull$hit and just a little bit too convenient.
The video of Kirk getting shot clearly shows that bullet entered the back side of his head and exited the neck.... but I'm suppose to believe there was no exit wound on a high powered rifle?
If you've ever gone to a magic show, just because you can't figure out how the magicians pulled it off... do you assume it really was magic? That's your logic.
It smells like bull$hit because it is bull$hit.... You just want to know how all the smoke & mirrors & secret doors are placed, and I'm sorry those answers can't be provided.
Just because you can't explain how it's pulled off doesn't mean you need to believe the ridiculous story the Feds are selling.
Then people try say that Kirk wasn't that important... like really?
If that's the case... were any of the political movements in the 50's and 60's worth the FBI's time to surveil, infiltrate, discredit, and disrupt?
[quote]COINTELPRO (a syllabic abbreviation derived from Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert and illegal[1][2][3] projects conducted between 1956 and 1971 by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting American political organizations that the FBI perceived as subversive.[4][5][6][7]
Groups and individuals targeted by the FBI included feminist organizations,[8][9] the Communist Party USA,[10] anti-Vietnam War organizers, activists in the civil rights and Black power movements (e.g., Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, and the Black Panther Party), Student organizations such as Students for a Democratic Society (SDS)[11] and Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), environmentalist and animal rights organizations, the American Indian Movement (AIM), Chicano and Mexican-American groups like the Brown Berets and the United Farm Workers, and independence movements (including Puerto Rican independence groups, such as the Young Lords and the Puerto Rican Socialist Party). Although the program primarily focused on organizations that were part of the broader New Left, they also targeted white supremacist groups, such as the Ku Klux Klan[12][13][14] and the National States' Rights Party.[15] [/quote]
The people defending the official story obviously haven't done any digging on this. They say there was no exit wound despite the fact that the gun the killer "used" can literally blow your head off. The old guy who everyone thought did it in the beginning happened to be at 9/11 and Boston Marathon bombing, now in jail for child porn so he won't be interviewed. Construction was also done where the shooter was right after the killing, an active crime scene. Yup, nothing to see here guys. :oldlol:
[url]https://uk.news.yahoo.com/installing-monument-construction-crew-seen-082645654.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALDMdDIbqZ-uHNpFKLgNXRlPtTDGLlhvecX9zQE6rSZd0G6hRTmt34GS_X91F-JFt9gtEclu6l8dr0Lta0mGHPZVhOmeh75h3xxgJi4NDtqnA8_tVf437Hb8Ih2WLHkJ0GqnxedtkX3P9eRRASb5OS9Bm53SggJ6KrLEYjepfWz9[/url]
[video=youtube;JPBGQp6pH5g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPBGQp6pH5g[/video]
Candace Owens talked to an eye witness and they said they saw the shooter with a smaller gun compared to the gun the FBI says is the murder weapon.
The eye witness is the person who recorded the shooter running on the roof.
FBI lying off their asses.
25 min mark
[video=youtube;UBkFkg4UNY8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBkFkg4UNY8[/video]
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15035186]The people defending the official story obviously haven't done any digging on this. They say there was no exit wound despite the fact that the gun the killer "used" can literally blow your head off. The old guy who everyone thought did it in the beginning happened to be at 9/11 and Boston Marathon bombing, now in jail for child porn so he won't be interviewed. Construction was also done where the shooter was right after the killing, an active crime scene. Yup, nothing to see here guys. :oldlol:
[url]https://uk.news.yahoo.com/installing-monument-construction-crew-seen-082645654.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALDMdDIbqZ-uHNpFKLgNXRlPtTDGLlhvecX9zQE6rSZd0G6hRTmt34GS_X91F-JFt9gtEclu6l8dr0Lta0mGHPZVhOmeh75h3xxgJi4NDtqnA8_tVf437Hb8Ih2WLHkJ0GqnxedtkX3P9eRRASb5OS9Bm53SggJ6KrLEYjepfWz9[/url]
[video=youtube;JPBGQp6pH5g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPBGQp6pH5g[/video][/QUOTE]
He literally wasn't at 9/11 or the Boston Marathon. He made a bomb threat at the Utah marathon AFTER the Boston marathon.
The problem with getting your info from wacky youtube videos is you end up posting false shit with no evidence and then try to tie that into this story as proof of a grand conspiracy.
The youtube algorithm is lying to you bro. It's time to take a break.
Here's a video of Zinn talking about how he was in Denver during 9/11.
[url]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOg0g7AgdBv/?hl=en[/url]
This definitely proves he was "at 9/11" which means this Kirk assassination must be a conspiracy. :lol
And Candace Owen's, the queen of credibility, coming HARD with the facts! :banana:
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;15035189]
The problem with getting your info from wacky youtube videos is you end up posting false shit with no evidence and then try to tie that into this story as proof of a grand conspiracy.
[/QUOTE]
Jesus Christ.... you act as if the FBI has a monopoly on the Truth.
The Truth is whatever the Federal Government says is the truth is basically your stance.
A conspiracy is already dismissed even if your eyes tell you otherwise.
Yes, in the realm of conspiracy there will be a $hit ton of information that isn't true...
but what we're being sold from the people in charge sure as $hit ain't true either.
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;15035191]Here's a video of Zinn talking about how he was in Denver during 9/11.
[url]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOg0g7AgdBv/?hl=en[/url]
This definitely proves he was "at 9/11" which means this Kirk assassination must be a conspiracy. :lol
And Candace Owen's, the queen of credibility, coming HARD with the facts! :banana:[/QUOTE]
Good find. I'll admit I was wrong on that part. Still weird how there is video of him being interviewed about 9/11 when he's supposed to be this crazy homeless guy.
There are still way too many holes in the FBI's story. Anyone with common sense can see that.
[video=youtube;WtPqO0iChTA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtPqO0iChTA[/video]
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15035192]Jesus Christ.... you act as if the FBI has a monopoly on the Truth.
The Truth is whatever the Federal Government says is the truth is basically your stance.
A conspiracy is already dismissed even if your eyes tell you otherwise.
Yes, in the realm of conspiracy there will be a $hit ton of information that isn't true...
but what we're being sold from the people in charge sure as $hit ain't true either.[/QUOTE]
This is like 10 strawmans lol.
Just a list of things he never said.
Make it make sense.
[video=youtube;fFjWC6EP4wc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFjWC6EP4wc[/video]
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15035204]Make it make sense.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't have to make any sense whatsoever.
Charlie Kirk was shot from the front with no exit wound, by Tyler Robinson, who disassembled the weapon, leaving the screw driver on the roof, reassembled the weapon, changed clothes, texted the entire narrative to his tranny bf, got turned into the authorities by his MAGA father.... and that is the story people will believe as fact no matter how ridiculous the details are.
Anybody trying to point out the inconsistencies or go against the official story online are only looking to make a profit because they know controversy sells.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15035200]There are still way too many holes in the FBI's story. Anyone with common sense can see that.
[video=youtube;WtPqO0iChTA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtPqO0iChTA[/video][/QUOTE]
Good video....
Although... I have not completely dismissed "The driver" theory with JFK.
Do we really think LBJ had enough power in the underworld to carry out the hit? Involved yes, but ordered it? No.
It's funny with all the motives surrounding JFK's hit.... AIPAC is never brought to the spotlight. (I guess it's too antisemitic to discuss)