[QUOTE=NumberSix]The stats you just posted is what we've been discussing this whole time. the 2011-2012 season PLAYOFFS.[/QUOTE]
Yet melo is better? Even lin lead the team better than melo...
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[QUOTE=NumberSix]The stats you just posted is what we've been discussing this whole time. the 2011-2012 season PLAYOFFS.[/QUOTE]
Yet melo is better? Even lin lead the team better than melo...
[QUOTE=Dictator][B]Yet melo is better[/B]? Even lin lead the team better than melo...[/QUOTE]
Again, I didn't bring this up. I'm just answering what is being said. I never initiated comparing last year's layoff stats.
[QUOTE=NumberSix]I didn't bring up Kobe and Melo's playoff stats. I didn't initiate this line of discussion. I'm just answering what was initially presented.[/QUOTE]
So Kobe's playoff stats and RS stats is better, on top of that he is a better defender, playmaker etc. but still you think Melo is better than him?
naw he's not
Dwight Howard is clearly the best player on the Lakers.
I don't think he would be the "best" per se. I mean, I guess it would depend on what night you're asking me.
You see, I see kobe in a different light than some. Kobe starts games hot. He goes like 8-11 in the first half for like 20 points.
Then they start the second and they go away from kobe, and Then lakers lose the lead Kobe tries to continue what he did in the first half and misses like 5 shots in a row. Then he makes 1, and misses 1, then makes another. Then he'll miss 3 in a row and then make 1.
Some shit like that and ends with 33 points on 11-25 shooting.
Idk, I blame it on the looks he's getting. During the game, hes older now, so he gets tired. He doesnt have a point guard and the rest of the team is weak, so defenses really gear up for him.
NOW, with Dwight and Nash, I'm looking for kobe's averages to stay the same with his fg% to go up to 47%. The way he isnt going to be doubled, and defenses have to worry about 4 guys and he can finally get HIS REST in. (LAST SEASON MIKE BROWN PLAYED KOBE THE WHOLE GAME BECAUSE 1. THEY WOULD LOSE WITHOUT HIM ON THE FLOOR, AND 2. NO BACK UP)
so, it would depend on the night. On most nights, dwight is our best player. BUT HE ISNT OUR BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER. He will be easily the most efficient but he IS NOT going to get you 50 points a night no matter HOW MANY times he shoots.
So, when its all said and done, It depends on the night, But kobe, being the type of player he is, with the mentality he has, will still be the leader.
[QUOTE=LamarOdom]So Kobe's playoff stats and RS stats is better, on top of that he is a better defender, playmaker etc. but still you think [B]Melo is better than him?[/B][/QUOTE]
I believe moving forward into this season, he will be.
Look, I'm not by any means a fan or Carmelo or his game. Let me be very clear. My opinion is based on Melo's age advantage. Kobe has been in the NBA 7 years longer than Melo. Nobody can beat father time.
This is just another good test to determine who is a Kobe fan and who is a Lakers fan.
Strange as it sounds, I think if Kobe averages less points on a higher efficiency, he will be the best player.
Give Dwight the keys to scoring.
[QUOTE=CTulc]Strange as it sounds, I think if Kobe averages less points on a higher efficiency, he will be the best player.
Give Dwight the keys to scoring.[/QUOTE]
Call me crazy, but I think Pau should be Nash's #1 scoring option.
I think the combination of Nash & Pau is going to be serious. That will free Kobe up too.
[QUOTE=NumberSix]Call me crazy, but I think Pau should be Nash's #1 scoring option.
I think the combination of Nash & Pau is going to be serious. That will free Kobe up too.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. I have a friend who tells me all the time about how pumped he is to see those Gasol/Nash pick n rolls.
I think Wade will go back to being top 5-7 this season, he has lot of time to rest and get healthy. His numbers won't be higher though, he gave the team to Lebron and now they got their recipe for success. Spo/Riley will also like usual not try too hard in the regular season. His efficiency will be up though.
Same for Kobe, higher efficiency with Nash and Howard, but lower numbers. They will both be in that 5-7 spot.
If Dwight recovers well from his back surgrey, and is healthy, he has the biggest impact on both ends.
Until we've seen them all played together, I'm giving Kobe the benefit of the doubt for now. He's still the best player for now, until Howard demonstrates he's better
Dwight has been better than Kobe these last 2 years, imo. It's hard to predict how Kobe will play at 34 years old, though.
I am wondering how this lineup will work, what kind of roles each players will be in. And how will Kobe approach the game playing with so many scoring options? I didn't really like how much he held the ball and overdribbled last year, particularly to work for his own shot. But that was to be expected in Mike Brown's offense, and considering he was their only perimeter threat, I can understand it. There really won't be a reason for him to try to do that much this season, though.
[QUOTE=28renyoy]Dwight got to the finals with scrubs. Kobe couldn't get out of the first round with scrubs. 23 year old Dwight>prime Kobe[/QUOTE]
Scrubs= most overused word on ISH
Dwight's '09 Magic were talented. Aside from 2-time all-star Rashard(who was an all-star that year), they had Turkoglu, who played better in '08 than '09, but wasn't far from all-star level. Pretty much in the same tier as Lewis. The rest of their rotation was role players, some quite good such as Pietrus, but pretty much all of them at the level of NBA role players.
I don't agree with the people who claim Dwight is the 3rd best player in the NBA.