And no way that Shard is the second best player on the Magic right now.
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And no way that Shard is the second best player on the Magic right now.
[QUOTE=Remix]Are you kidding me? Not a homer but, Odom over Butler? Are you serious?
And Deng in a top 10 list? Over Granger, Wallace, Jefferson... Wow...[/QUOTE]
I just can't place somebody so low on my list that is so versatile over a man in the past 2 seasons who has put up good stats but hasn't played over 70 games. But i just have realized on my list I left out Marion but I have never been a fan of RJ or Wallace. In my opnion about Granger, yeah he is a talented player but not a first option guy which he is in Indiana. When Indiana does get a bit more talented I think we can see those stats cool down to reality for him.
[QUOTE=Remix]LeBron won't average over 8 assists next year.
[B]No way in hell Ron Ron gets 21.[/B]
0% chance Melo gets 30+ and 8+.
Caron won't average 6 assists a game.
[B]Marion will be lucky to score 18 a game.[/B]
Rashard Lewis and Jefferson are extremely high.
Little to no chance Josh Smith gets that many rebounds.[/QUOTE]
Artest averaged 20.5 ppg last season, another 0.5ppg isnt far fetched [url]http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ron_artest/career_stats.html[/url]
Marion is averaging 18.3 ppg for career [url]http://www.nba.com/playerfile/shawn_marion/career_stats.html[/url]
[QUOTE=PacerRaptor]Marion is averaging 18.3 ppg for career [url]http://www.nba.com/playerfile/shawn_marion/career_stats.html[/url][/QUOTE]
served! repped :D
[QUOTE=PacerRaptor]Marion is averaging 18.3 ppg for career [url]http://www.nba.com/playerfile/shawn_marion/career_stats.html[/url][/QUOTE]
That doesn't mean he'll average that this year. With Wade being back and healthy and Beasly is gonna take a lot of shots.
[quote=Big Al All day]That doesn't mean he'll average that this year. With Wade being back and healthy and Beasly is gonna take a lot of shots.[/quote]
Who's going to rebound out of those three? Marions is. He averages 2.6 offensive rebounds for his career, and I bet he'll average better than three next year. With the bigger offensive rebounding numbers coming this season, he can take less shots and still average 18.
Marion might not be any better of a rebounder then Beasly. Where are they gonna play them anyways? Marion at the 3 Beasly at 4? Also i don't understand what your trying to make a case for. Are you saying that he should be higher on somebody's list? I can think of at least 8 better SF's right off the top of my head LeBron , Pierce , Melo , Butler , Artest , Josh Smith , Granger , and even guys like G. Wallace , Josh Smith , and Lamar Odom are as good if not better then Marion.
[QUOTE=Big Al All day]Marion might not be any better of a rebounder then Beasly. Where are they gonna play them anyways? Marion at the 3 Beasly at 4? Also i don't understand what your trying to make a case for. Are you saying that he should be higher on somebody's list? I can think of at least 8 better SF's right off the top of my head LeBron , Pierce , Melo , Butler , Artest , Josh Smith , Granger , and even guys like G. Wallace , Josh Smith , and Lamar Odom are as good if not better then Marion.[/QUOTE]
Gerald Wallace, Josh Smith, and Lamar Odom aren't really better than Marion. Marion is a better at rebounding and defense. He thrives in an open court style offense as the second or third option, but even in his first few years he was an OK first option on offense.
Butler and Granger are debatable.
I honestly think Butler and Granger are better then Marion. Butler was awesome without Gilbert there chucking up shots. This year yeah maybe ppg will go down but he is a pretty solid defender. I have Odom , Marion , Wallace , all ranked evenly. I forgot about Prince , I would rather have him on my team then any of the guys i just mentioned.
Edit: Marion only averaged 15ppg last year on a awful Heat team. Now with Wade and Beasly i don't see him averaging over 18ppg.
Butler is much better then marion. butler is a better shooter, defensivley he's just as good. people underrate carons defense. he's alot more mobile score. he has alot and i mean alot better handles. marion is a better rebounder though.i'll give him that much. i would say there is only 4 better SF's in better then butler.
LBJ
Pierce
Artest
Carmelo. carmelo is very much up for disscussion
[1] LeBron
[2] Pierce
[3] Caron
[4] Artest
[5] Melo
[6] Marion
[7] Odom
[8] Wallace
[9] Iguodala
[10] Smith
IMO.
[QUOTE=PacerRaptor]Artest averaged 20.5 ppg last season, another 0.5ppg isnt far fetched [url]http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ron_artest/career_stats.html[/url]
Marion is averaging 18.3 ppg for career [url]http://www.nba.com/playerfile/shawn_marion/career_stats.html[/url][/QUOTE]
artest is in houston now...he has yao and mcgrady to carry the scoring load. he isn't going to avg 21ppg.....close thread
[QUOTE=Kiddlovesnets]If Manu is not the second best SG the who is?
:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Wade Allen Carter Iverson are all better etc..
IS THAT ENOUGH?
[quote=AllenIverson3]Wade Allen Carter Iverson are all better etc..
IS THAT ENOUGH?[/quote]
Roy and Joe Johnson too.
[QUOTE=Big Al All day]Marion might not be any better of a rebounder then Beasly. Where are they gonna play them anyways? Marion at the 3 Beasly at 4? Also i don't understand what your trying to make a case for. Are you saying that he should be higher on somebody's list? I can think of at least 8 better SF's right off the top of my head LeBron , Pierce , Melo , Butler , Artest , Josh Smith , Granger , and even guys like G. Wallace , Josh Smith , and Lamar Odom are as good if not better then Marion.[/QUOTE]
Dude, only Bron, Pierce, Melo, & Butler, are better then Marion, but not the rest. & you named Josh Smith 2s. Did you mean Josh Howard?