Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
[QUOTE=Mathius]That's not "normal." You can go back through history and look at guys who've had good rookie seasons or second years, and then completely digressed. There is no "normal" in the NBA.
Try watching for a few decades and then get back to me on the definition of NBA "normal."
Mathius[/QUOTE]
List the guys who played big roles on Championship teams or teams as good as the Celtics as SOPHOMORES who 'completely digressed'. Or just throw me a list of players who started and played big roles on good teams who totally digressed. Just for the last ten years. Should be easy.
The fact you have to look for them proves it's rather an exception than a rule. Saying it doesn't happen is a lie, but now you're just blatantly trying to cover up some unfounded ranting for the sake of ranting.
Don't give me this decades stuff since you know it's just bull****, you busted another fuse in here because that's your 'cool' thing to do, I know it's your thing and that's what you're known for (aside from the signature), sure you have to do it every now and then just to make sure we won't forget about you. But just make sure it's at the right time and place. Don't go Ricky D on us.
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
[QUOTE=loot]List the guys who played big roles on Championship teams or teams as good as the Celtics as SOPHOMORES who 'completely digressed'. Or just throw me a list of players who started and played big roles on good teams who totally digressed. Just for the last ten years. Should be easy. [/QUOTE]
Give me a list of all those stupid PF's the Bulls drafted all those years like Corie Blount, Dickey Simpkins, and Byron Houston, etc. that were SOO promising their first couple years before people realized they just plain suck ass. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE]The fact you have to look for them proves it's rather an exception than a rule. Saying it doesn't happen is a lie, but now you're just blatantly trying to cover up some unfounded ranting for the sake of ranting.
Don't give me this decades stuff since you know it's just bull****, you busted another fuse in here because that's your 'cool' thing to do, I know it's your thing and that's what you're known for (aside from the signature), sure you have to do it every now and then just to make sure we won't forget about you. But just make sure it's at the right time and place. Don't go Ricky D on us.[/QUOTE]
It's not bullsh*t just because you choose to not accept it. In 20 years or more of watching the NBA, I've found that making predictions or trying to prove a trend is a waste of time. Did it make any sense for Elton Brand to skip town when he was supposed to make such a badass tandem with Baron Davis? Did it make sense for Memphis to ship out Pau Gasol to the Lakers of all places? Did anyone predict Devin Harris would be this good? Did anyone predict Jason Kidd would fall off as quick as he has?
Those are just things that happened in the last year or so.
Mathius
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
[QUOTE=Mississippi]Not saying he's a bad player or anything, but he's definitely not what he's hyped up to be. I've been hearing people saying that he's an allstar this year and I think that is ridiculous. Hell I think Sebastian Telfair, Delonte West and Allen Ray would look like allstars next to Garnett, Pierce and Allen. At least those three guards can actually shoot the ball. Rondo passes up on so many open looks which he should be taken. Maybe I haven't seen enough to really say, but from what I've seen he's nowhere near an allstar caliber guard just yet.[/QUOTE]
:lol
Allan Ray... That's funny.
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
Players improve when they have great players to play along side of them - no different with Rondo, except that he plays along side of 3 great players. He has phenomenal court vision and is a superstar in the making.
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
[QUOTE=Mathius]Give me a list of all those stupid PF's the Bulls drafted all those years like Corie Blount, Dickey Simpkins, and Byron Houston, etc. that were SOO promising their first couple years before people realized they just plain suck ass. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]
None of those players you mentioned compares to Rondo. None of them played such a big role and heavy minutes for good teams. :confusedshrug: It should be easy, the way you bring it. I'm still waiting for names.
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
[QUOTE=garnett_21]He has phenomenal court vision and is a [B]superstar [/B]in the making.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll:
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
Why is it that any time a player is having a great season someone calls them overrated. Get over yourself.
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
If you went back to 2003 and told people Parker was going to drop 40+ in the playoffs using mostly jumpers off pick and rolls or that he'd be Finals MVP everyone would've:
[QUOTE=loot]:roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
[QUOTE=stephanieg]If you went back to 2003 and told people Parker was going to drop 40+ in the playoffs using mostly jumpers off pick and rolls or that he'd be Finals MVP everyone would've:[/QUOTE]
If you went to this board back in 2003 and asked if Tony Parker would be a multiple time AS player, 95% of the people here thought Tony Parker was way overrated(I did as such as well). That he was a scrub that got to shine because of the team he was on. Hell I would say that was the overall perception of him on this board until 05.
Look Rondo is a very good player. Forget about whether or not he [B]can[/B] get better, and understand he has [B]gotten[/B] better and is improving rapidly. I don't know what some posters are all up in arms over. Outside of shooting, is there one skill he doesn't have that you would want a young or any point guard to have. Rebounding, Defense, Ball-handling, court vision, he takes care of the ball, and thinks pass first. Is he CP3? No. Is he D-will? No. So what.
I would say his impact on the Celtics is alot greater then what people on this board think. But then again it wouldn't be the first time a large majority of the ISH Basketball geniuses were wrong.
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
[QUOTE=stephanieg]If you went back to 2003 and told people Parker was going to drop 40+ in the playoffs using mostly jumpers off pick and rolls or that he'd be Finals MVP everyone would've:[/QUOTE]
Tony Parker isnt a superstar either.:confusedshrug:
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
So many people pointed out Rondo is underrated that he became overrated. Now he is underrated again as everyone realizes how overrated he is.
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
He's an All-Star, and a top 5 pg. If you want to say that's not a "superstar," whatever, but it's completely subjective.
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
Rondo being a top 5 PG would make him overrated. Unless you werent serious.
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
[QUOTE=GOBB]Rondo being a top 5 PG would make him overrated. Unless you werent serious.[/QUOTE]
I was talking about Tony Parker.
Re: Rajon Rondo has become so Overrated
[QUOTE=GOBB]Rondo being a top 5 PG would make him overrated. Unless you werent serious.[/QUOTE]
He was talking about Parker. Being top 5, which makes him a superstar in his opinion.
If that would actually make sense we'd have 25 or more superstars in the NBA.