Insider: Who's better Kobe vs Lebron

[QUOTE=plowking]Kobe is the best player in the world. Comfortably, as well.

And the article lost all credibility at Lebron is the better shooter. Since when? His 3 pt shot is the only thing better this year. Even that at the end of the season won't be the case.

I won't bother arguing the rest, but Kobe once again has proved he's the best in the world, followed by Lebron and then Wade.[/QUOTE]

You are the king of posting confidently - as if everyone is supposed to believe you - without ever having proof. The post above is emotion-laden:

"I won't argue the rest.." - why?
"Kobe has proven he's the best..." - how?
"...followed by..." - as if that is the order written in the Bible
"Comfortably." - yah, right...a lot of people believe that

LBJ is a 50% shooter overall this year; Kobe is at 48.8
LBJ is at 53.8% on 2's this year; Kobe is at 52.5%

And you post that Lebron is only better at shooting the 3. It's just not true.
Lebron tells everyone that Kobe is the best player in the league, and Lebron fans - many of them - feel the same way. It's just sad that Kobe fans' lack of confidence causes them to shoot down any facts, theories, etc. which suggest LBJ is better at anything.

[QUOTE=sixer6ad]You are the king of posting confidently - as if everyone is supposed to believe you - without ever having proof. The post above is emotion-laden:

"I won't argue the rest.." - why?
"Kobe has proven he's the best..." - how?
"...followed by..." - as if that is the order written in the Bible
"Comfortably." - yah, right...a lot of people believe that

LBJ is a 50% shooter overall this year; Kobe is at 48.8
LBJ is at 53.8% on 2's this year; Kobe is at 52.5%

And you post that Lebron is only better at shooting the 3. It's just not true.
Lebron tells everyone that Kobe is the best player in the league, and Lebron fans - many of them - feel the same way. It's just sad that Kobe fans' lack of confidence causes them to shoot down any facts, theories, etc. which suggest LBJ is better at anything.[/QUOTE]

Ever hear of a dunk? Its a 2 point FG. But its not perimeter shooting. I will let you in on a little secret. Lebron ONLY has a higher percentage from 2 because he has more dunks than Kobe. Kobe shoots better than Lebron everywhere on the court except behind the three point line and right at the rim. People have posted up the breakdown. Lebron is not a better shooter than Kobe any more than he is a better shooter than Ray Allen or Dirk.

[QUOTE=The_Yearning]LeBron on the Lakers squad would brake the 72 win mark. That is legit. Kobe on Cleveland would be a 48ish win team. However whose better? Kobe. You a fool if you think LBJ wouldn't be averaging at least 12 ast a game on that LAL team. Prolly a triple double even seeing how Bynum hardly grabs any rebounds.[/QUOTE]

This is a joke right? his assist yes would probably be up but as proven manny times be4 the West is so far ahead of the East even in the lower half he wouldn't be droppin triple doubles and 50+ on the lower half teams in the west as he does in the east and how does that make any sense if the better player is Kobe but the Lebron james lead lakers would win 72? Kobe would feast on the lower level eastern confrence teams probably more so then Lebron because he has a better jimmy and if his teammates wouldn't get it going he would go off and history tell's us that's a great thing cause they almost always win.

[QUOTE=The GM]I'm sorry but the slobbage ESPN just gave Lebron is ridiculous. Chris Brousarrd or however you spell his name who I "Had" alot of respect for is just suckin Labrizzy's nuts, saying that if they switched teams the Lakers would be close to 70 win's and the Cavs would just be a mere playoff team and wouldn't be competing againts the Magic & Boston's of the world is flat out stupid.. let Lebron grind it out in the west for a season and see how he doesn't look so mighty. Oh yea btw Lebron & Kobe's playmaking ability is alot closer then people think.. watch the game's people, just don't look at stats.[/QUOTE]

I watch alot of their games and i think Lebron takes over them more effectively than Kobe. Kobe i'll admit has a better shooting touch but Lebron can find other ways to take over. Like someone had mention earlier in this thead, Lebron could guard almost anybody on the court and can play more positions. Kobe to me is an overrated defender.

if you're gonna go by "team succuss" then Kobe's 05-06 season didnt mean anything

[QUOTE=The GM]This is a joke right? his assist yes would probably be up but as proven manny times be4 the West is so far ahead of the East even in the lower half he wouldn't be droppin triple doubles and 50+ on the lower half teams in the west as he does in the east and how does that make any sense if the better player is Kobe but the Lebron james lead lakers would win 72? Kobe would feast on the lower level eastern confrence teams probably more so then Lebron because he has a better jimmy and if his teammates wouldn't get it going he would go off and history tell's us that's a great thing cause they almost always win.[/QUOTE]


This is the problem with folks who haven't watched the NBA much. 70 win seasons don't grow on trees morons. And the whole switch player X with Y to prove a point is flawed on so many levels, especially when comparing 2 players with different strengths and weaknesses.

That making teammates better things is also bull****...look at Shaq for example. He was beasting last year with Nash, now looks like **** playing beside the "King." He will never coexist with a great player until he starts believing in ball movement.

[QUOTE=Twiens]That making teammates better things is also bull****...look at Shaq for example. He was beasting last year with Nash, now looks like **** playing beside the "King." He will never coexist with a great player until he starts believing in ball movement.[/QUOTE]

Shaq coexisted with Kobe, Penny and Wade for some very successful seasons. Many of them altogether in fact. Shaq is now in his 18th NBA season and only playing 22 mpg. What do you expect him to do?

[QUOTE=ShaqAttack3234]Shaq coexisted with Kobe, Penny and Wade for some very successful seasons. Many of them altogether in fact. Shaq is now in his 18th NBA season and only playing 22 mpg. What do you expect him to do?[/QUOTE]

Well he was 18 and 8 on a ridiculous 61% last year :eek:

[QUOTE=Twiens]That making teammates better things is also bull****...look at Shaq for example. He was beasting last year with Nash, now looks like **** playing beside the "King." He will never coexist with a great player until he starts believing in ball movement.[/QUOTE]

Lmao Shaq wasn't no beast last year...watch a damn basketball game that fat mug is a liability on any team ever since he got traded from Miami.

[QUOTE=Twiens]Well he was 18 and 8 on a ridiculous 61% last year :eek:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but that was a shocking year considering the injuries and his decline before that plus his minutes have been lowered by 7-8 mpg. I expected more production from Shaq, but I also expected more minutes. Then again when players are in the league as long as Shaq, declines happen very fast.

How many times can you have the same conversation without it getting boring and unreadable? Apparently infinite.

[QUOTE=The GM]This is a joke right? his assist yes would probably be up but as proven manny times be4 the West is so far ahead of the East even in the lower half he wouldn't be droppin triple doubles and 50+ on the lower half teams in the west as he does in the east and how does that make any sense if the better player is Kobe but the Lebron james lead lakers would win 72? Kobe would feast on the lower level eastern confrence teams probably more so then Lebron because he has a better jimmy and if his teammates wouldn't get it going he would go off and history tell's us that's a great thing cause they almost always win.[/QUOTE]

Check conference splits for Kobe. He was playing worse against the East than the West. And those lower level west teams? He has/had 3 of them in his division past few years.

LeBron won 66 games last year with that team. If you don't think 3 all-stars being added to the roster and the GOAT coach would "help" him or the team, I don't know what to tell you.

[QUOTE=Twiens]That making teammates better things is also bull****...look at Shaq for example. He was beasting last year with Nash, now looks like **** playing beside the "King." He will never coexist with a great player until he starts believing in ball movement.[/QUOTE]


The suns made shaq the focal point of their offense and ran everything through him. The cavs play him 20 minutes a games and run everything through Mo/Bron.
:oldlol: at implying that Lebron isn't good a moving the ball, he's only the best passing forward in the league... Go s*ck Kobe's D*ck :oldlol:

I honestly can not believe that any serious educated NBA fan could actually believe that Kobe Bryant is a better basketball player than Lebron James. I know that statistics don't count for everything, but Lebron's season last year was better statistically than ANY season Kobe has ever had. Not to mention the fact that Kobe was a horrible teammate when the Lakers were struggling- its easy to come off as a great teammate/leader when you are on the best team in the league. Also you have to keep in mind that Kobe has played nearly his entire career with one of the best coaches in the history of the NBA, while Lebron has Mike Brown who couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

Lebron>Kobe, its been that way for the past 2-3 years, and if you don't agree then honestly you are a Kobe homer you are not looking at the facts.

[QUOTE=hawksdogsbraves]I honestly can not believe that any serious educated NBA fan could actually believe that Kobe Bryant is a better basketball player than Lebron James. I know that statistics don't count for everything, but Lebron's season last year was better statistically than ANY season Kobe has ever had. Not to mention the fact that Kobe was a horrible teammate when the Lakers were struggling- its easy to come off as a great teammate/leader when you are on the best team in the league. Also you have to keep in mind that Kobe has played nearly his entire career with one of the best coaches in the history of the NBA, while Lebron has Mike Brown who couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

Lebron>Kobe, its been that way for the past 2-3 years, and if you don't agree then honestly you are a Kobe homer you are not looking at the facts.[/QUOTE]

It's not even arguable really. Does anyone honestly think Kobe is taking last year's Cavs team to 66 wins w/a supporting cast of Mo Williams, Delonte West and Z? C'mon.

I usually just avoid Kobe v. LeBron threads. Arguing against Kobe fans is like arguing with girls; they don't respond to logic. Far to much of their self-esteem is tied into this NBA player who doesn't care about them.