Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
[QUOTE=plowking]Magic's game never relied on athelticism, just like SA3234 claims about Jordan at the Wizards, yet look at the difference it made from 91 to 96. His assits nearly halved and his points took a 6ppg fall. How is that no difference? Per minute is fine and all, though at 50 how much would MJ be playing? No more than 20 minutes a game. There is no shot in hell he averages more than 7 or 8ppg.
Did you not see how much 8 years makes from approximately 28-36? What makes you think it's going to be easier from 41-50? Ageing only gets worse and more rapid, and if you want to deny this and continue with the Jordan loving, then I simply can't help you from your delusional fantasy.[/QUOTE]
Without his knee injury during summer of 2001 Jordan would have been alot closer to his 98 shape. People that played with him like Ron Artest said that before the knee injury he was a potential 30 ppg scorer and more or less the Mike of 98. I think people naturally decline mor between 30 and 35 then between 40 and 50. Around 32 or so most people loose their quickness and explosivness. But you can still keep a high athlethic level for a long time after that. Most player and people get lazy after 35 and therefore decline so much. If somebody is healthy and realy training hard he can have a very good level at age 50. Lok at a guy like Chakie Chan. He was unbelievably fit at age 50.
So if Mike's knees would be recovered i could see him playing well at age 50 . I don't think it will happen but it would certainly possible. 25 minutes a game with 15 points 4 assists and 5 rebounds on 47 percent from the field is anything but impossible. On given nights he certainly could still drop over 30 in 40 minutes of play ( not regulary but certainly a couple of times during the season)
Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
[QUOTE=ukballer]It's called being realistic. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
You can expect MJ dickriders to be a lot of things but you can't expect them to be realistic.
Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
[QUOTE=beermonsteroo]Without his knee injury during summer of 2001 Jordan would have been alot closer to his 98 shape. People that played with him like Ron Artest said that before the knee injury he was a potential 30 ppg scorer and more or less the Mike of 98. I think people naturally decline mor between 30 and 35 then between 40 and 50. Around 32 or so most people loose their quickness and explosivness. But you can still keep a high athlethic level for a long time after that. Most player and people get lazy after 35 and therefore decline so much. If somebody is healthy and realy training hard he can have a very good level at age 50. Lok at a guy like Chakie Chan. He was unbelievably fit at age 50.
So if Mike's knees would be recovered i could see him playing well at age 50 . I don't think it will happen but it would certainly possible. 25 minutes a game with 15 points 4 assists and 5 rebounds on 47 percent from the field is anything but impossible. On given nights he certainly could still drop over 30 in 40 minutes of play ( not regulary but certainly a couple of times during the season)[/QUOTE]
Please.:oldlol:
Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
[QUOTE=Kellogs4toniee]I can't believe this went five pages. Was there even a link or source posted anywhere?
It's a joke. A 50 year old player playing in the NBA... are you freaking kidding me. I love Jordan to death, but people actually claim he could contribute efficiently? He would be too much of a liability on defense to keep in the game, plain and simple.[/QUOTE]
I never claimed I have a printed source. Just what someone who knows Charlotte basketball well told me he has heared about it. Don't belive it myself, but if
Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
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However with his knee fully recovered i am sure Mike would be at least as good as in 2003. Age is not a factor this days any more.[/QUOTE]
Age is not a factor these days anymore? Uh, yeah. There is one absolute in life, and that is the fact that we ALL get old, and we ALL lose our physical abilities with time, and then we all die. There are no exceptions to that rule, ESPECIALLY in basketball.
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with this new pill it will allow us to age slower!
Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
[QUOTE=inclinerator]with this new pill it will allow us to age slower![/QUOTE]
it's not a pill, it's something you inject in your buttcheeks. Steroids!
Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
plenty of good oral steroids around.
Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
"There are some rumors...", "It is said...". Yeah, good sources. Of course, the whole concept is a joke, but still 80+ replies, in order to speculate whether this could happen and what he'd average.
Jordan isn't coming back, period. Maybe he could do it for 1 game, just to show he can become the only HOF member who can return to playing action and to keep ahead of Wilt in the ppg section (factoid: a few years ago, an Italian legend, Marzorati, did just that: Returned in action at the age of about 55, but only for one game and for like 2 minutes). A span of 5 games at 10 ppg will already drop him in second place. Of course this ppg estimation is a completely rough one. Tough to estimate what he'd average, especially since there's there's nobody who played at 50 and nobody who came back after a 10-year retirement, let alone both. But definitely not close to 20 ppg, and nobody would. Look at his mpg, ppg and efficiency as a 39-40 y.o Wizard and compare to what he did as a 34-35 y.o in a tougher defensively league. Still not even close. Yet, he'd remain the same as a 50 y.o, especially if he plays for some team with a decent seriousness level? 20 would be more like his season high. 50 years old is not 40. Not in terms of athleticism, time to reach high fitness levels, stamina, ability to stay healthy, etc. Else, there would be no reason for the best 40-year olds to retire. They'd have a good 10 years in front of them.
Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
He would be DECENT on offense. He couldn't drive and sure as hell couldn't dunk, but he could probably average 10-12 a game on fadeaways at like 43%. But he would get utterly destroyed on defense. He could probably make a roster but he wouldn't see any decent PT outside of his name.
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[QUOTE=beermonsteroo]I never claimed I have a printed source. Just what someone who knows Charlotte basketball well told me he has heared about it. Don't belive it myself, but if
Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
[QUOTE=joyner82]He would be DECENT on offense. He couldn't drive and sure as hell couldn't dunk, but he could probably average 10-12 a game on fadeaways at like 43%. But he would get utterly destroyed on defense. He could probably make a roster but he wouldn't see any decent PT outside of his name.[/QUOTE]
I am sure that he can still dunk on a breakaway. If you are 6 6 and have freakin long hands it isn't all that difficult to dunk.
I rember seeing a charity game in which Domique throwing down an alley opp jam of a Magic pass. Nique was 44 or something and had like 40 pounds of fat around his belly. No problem a slim Jordan can dunk at 50.
Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
Swap whoever is SG on the Nets with current-form MJ and they win more than 11 games......
Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
[QUOTE=beermonsteroo]I am sure that he can still dunk on a breakaway. If you are 6 6 and have freakin long hands it isn't all that difficult to dunk.
I rember seeing a charity game in which Domique throwing down an alley opp jam of a Magic pass. Nique was 44 or something and had like 40 pounds of fat around his belly. No problem a slim Jordan can dunk at 50.[/QUOTE]
I meant more or less he couldn't drive and dunk. I'm sure he can dunk with ease on a breakaway..6'6 women can dunk, Jordan has a longer wingspan and probably 10 inches on vert.
Re: Michael Jordan to return for the 2012/2013 season?
[QUOTE=lilgodfather1]So then you could see him being a 30 ppg scorer, because some people in here are claiming he would be a 20 ppg scorer. If you think he would be better than people think, then I have some news for you, people get to be worse players as they age not better. I bet that MJ would be the last guy up the court every time. He would play less than 20 minutes, and score less than ten points.[/QUOTE]
I dind't say he would be a 30 ponints scorer regularly. I just say that if he was healthy and would bring himself in a really good shape, as good as you can be at 50, there is a chance that on a very very good night Jordan could drop 30. 10pts a game on 20-25 minutes a game certainly would be possible for the season. Especially if he avoided back to back games. So playing in 60 games with an average of 20-25 minutes. Yes i Do see Jordan averaging above 10 points.