ESPN article blasts "has-been" Jordan for Kobe comments

[QUOTE=Da_Realist]Exactly. Kobe and Jordan had different mentalities. I just find it odd that a guy that can throw up 81 hasn't been able to score 51 in the playoffs. No, I don't. I know why. It's because teams have pride in the playoffs, even in the first round. And typically, to win playoff games the best player has to do more than stand behind the 3pt line waiting on teammates to feed him the ball. So this negates a lot of what Kobe's able to do in the regular season.[/QUOTE]

LMAO at this garbage. lol @ using 51 points as a barometer when he's had a 50 point game in the playoffs, and more 30+ point/40+ point games in the playoffs than anybody in the league. :roll:

[QUOTE=Glide2keva]Just felt like doing it. You guys are getting owned left and right and it's funny. You are pissed that Jordan trumps Kobe on every level.[/QUOTE]
Not pissed because I know jordan>kobe. But kobe has had better elite scoring games and that is something that eats jordan fans up. How could a guy that is [I]so inferior[/I] possibly have bigger scoring explosions? Not exactly sure, but I know that simple fact brings you guys coming back for more.:oldlol:

[QUOTE=Willkill24][B]5 time champion and really he should of won in 03/04/08 so you could call him an 8 time champion and the GOAT IMO[/B].[/QUOTE]

What kind of logic is that?

He could have won 8 rings? if were talking about what players could have done then Len Bias could have been better than Jordan. Grant hill could have dominated had he not gotten injured. Lebron could have 1 chip if the Cavs won against the spurs.

Kobe is a 5 time champion. Regardless of whether or not he could have won another 3 it doesn't change anything.

[QUOTE=Da_Realist]And if Jordan chose to score as many points as possible against the worst teams in the league during the regular season he would have had many opportunities to score 81 or more. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
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Jordan, especially young Jordan, was a far bigger chucker than Kobe and he never came even close to 81. The only closest he got was 69 and he needed overtime to do that. You Jordan stans are ****ing ridiculous.

[QUOTE=step_back]What kind of logic is that?

He could have won 8 rings? if were talking about what players could have done then Len Bias could have been better than Jordan. Grant hill could have dominated had he not gotten injured. Lebron could have 1 chip if the Cavs won against the spurs.

Kobe is a 5 time champion. Regardless of whether or not he could have won another 3 it doesn't change anything.[/QUOTE]
Hey man don't step mid way into a debate and state your uninformed opinion. He was clearly responding to calabis who was saying kobe would be 'nique if he had no rings.

George Gervin

1979-80: 33.1 PTS (.528 FG%)
1981-82: 32.3 PTS (.500 FG%)

Adrian Dantley

1980-81: 30.7 PTS (.559 FG%)
1981-82: 30.3 PTS (.570 FG%)
1982-83: 30.7 PTS (.580 FG%)
1983-84: 30.6 PTS (.558 FG%)

Mark Aguire

1983-84: 29.5 PTS (.524 FG%)

Kiki Vandeseghe

1983-84: 29.4 PTS (.558 FG%)

Mark Aguire

1983-84: 29.5 PTS (.524 FG%)

Bernard King

1984-85: 32.9 PTS (.530 FG%)

Alex English

1985-86: 29.8 PTS (.504 FG%)
1986-87: 28.6 PTS (.503 FG%)

Larry Bird

1987-88: 29.9 PTS (.527 FG%)


... and there are tons of players who were in the 27-28 PTS range with very high FG%'s, they just weren't taking enough shots to get 30+.

lol @ MJ playing in the pathetic 80's and never even coming close to 81. :roll:

[QUOTE=tpols]How is a 30ppg season an explosion?:oldlol: We're talking about big games here buddy and kobe's elite scoring games are better. It's just a fact. And lol at your 3pt argument acting like kobe doesn't have twice as many 3 balls made than jordan. Reachin hard my man but the facts remain. Kobe had more range than jordan and was a better shooter (and had better elite scoring games~best the league has ever seen since wilt).[/QUOTE]


Let me see Kobe has more 3 pointers than MJ...wow he's made more than Bird too, because he jacks twice as many...Bird most in one season was 270+, Kobe 300+ 7 times(different era's, smarter players)....Kobe 60+ in three quarters..yeah let's leave out the 25 ft he took that game, more than Jordan in a 63 point playoff effort full game....Kobe does indeed have more range than MJ(so did Reggie Miller), that's not what is being disputed, according to you he is capable of scoring more, yet in 13 seasons with the Bulls, Jordan scored 29277(with two seasons basically missed, Kobe in 14 seasons with the Lakers 25790),hmmm why less points???....Sorry give me consistency in a physical, punishing league, over once in a lifetime outbursts, that never happen in the playoffs in a perimeter player friendly, ticky tack foul league. As great as a scorer Kobe is the dude has 2 scoring titles....that's comical...he's a volume scorer not a consistent one

[QUOTE=Willkill24]5 time champion and really he should of won in 03/04/08 so you could call him an 8 time champion and the GOAT IMO.[/QUOTE]

And Jordan should have won 8 in a row...shoulda, woulda, coulda...lmao at GOAT

[QUOTE=Calabis]Let me see Kobe has more 3 pointers than MJ...wow he's made more than Bird too, because he jacks twice as many...Bird most in one season was 270+, Kobe 300+ 7 times(different era's, smarter players)....Kobe 60+ in three quarters..yeah let's leave out the 25 ft he took that game, more than Jordan in a 63 point playoff effort full game....Kobe does indeed have more range than MJ(so did Reggie Miller), that's not what is being disputed, according to you he is capable of scoring more, yet in 13 seasons with the Bulls, Jordan scored 29277(with two seasons basically missed, Kobe in 14 seasons with the Lakers 25790),hmmm why less points???....Sorry give me consistency in a physical, punishing league, over once in a lifetime outbursts, that never happen in the playoffs in a perimeter player friendly, ticky tack foul league. As great as a scorer Kobe is the dude has 2 scoring titles....that's comical...he's a volume scorer not a consistent one[/QUOTE]
Lol kobe shoots more, makes more, and is more efficient. But that means nothing...hahahaha

And I never said kobe is a better scorer than jordan. Reading comp. fail. I said he has better elite scoring games. His peak scoring potential for a game is higher than MJ's. All I'm saying. L2read dawg.

Im sorry but are people once again having the "whos better" debate between Mike, and Kobe? Seriously?


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[QUOTE=tpols]Uh... he has two other chips and will likely have more but going with your hypothetical, jordan would be 'nique 2.0 with no rings.[/QUOTE]

UHH no Shaq, much different career, never a champion, wouldn't know what it took, possible no longer a Laker, possibly no Gasol and team he has today....if you want to exclude Shaq from his growing up in the NBA, then everything in his career changes...a ball hog no one would want to play with

[QUOTE=Calabis]Let me see Kobe has more 3 pointers than MJ...wow he's made more than Bird too, because he jacks twice as many...Bird most in one season was 270+, Kobe 300+ 7 times(different era's, smarter players)....Kobe 60+ in three quarters..yeah let's leave out the 25 ft he took that game, more than Jordan in a 63 point playoff effort full game....Kobe does indeed have more range than MJ(so did Reggie Miller), that's not what is being disputed, according to you he is capable of scoring more, yet in 13 seasons with the Bulls, Jordan scored 29277([B]with two seasons basically missed[/B], Kobe in 14 seasons with the Lakers 25790),hmmm why less points???....[/QUOTE]

Don't forget he missed most of the 86 season too.

[QUOTE=Calabis]Sorry give me consistency in a physical, punishing league, over once in a lifetime outbursts, [B]that never happen in the playoffs[/B] in a perimeter player friendly, ticky tack foul league. As great as a scorer Kobe is the dude has 2 scoring titles....that's comical...he's a volume scorer not a consistent one[/QUOTE]

Bingo

[QUOTE=oh the horror]Im sorry but are people once again having the "whos better" debate between Mike, and Kobe? Seriously?


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''Kobe is the best all around player that I have ever coached'' - Phil Jackson during the 2001 playoffs

[QUOTE=Ne 1]No surprise. Jordan was the biggest ballhog in NBA history, dude led the league in jacking up shots a recorded 9 times and averaged 24 fg attempts per game for his career! But that's not all!

He shots the ball 49 times in one game, in 15 years he shot the ball..24,567 times a record for a 15 year career!

He had seasons' of 25 FG attempt's, 28 FG attempts and 24 FG attempts per game.

Doug Collins wanted MJ to pass more and MJ had Doug fired!!!! (this was before Pippen emerged as the facilitator)[/QUOTE]

Yup he also hit 50% of those, please name another 2 guard that has done that...it sure the hell ain't Kobe, he hasn't sniffed 50%

[QUOTE=Da_Realist]Don't forget he missed most of the 86 season too.



Bingo[/QUOTE]

Wow. What a moron. :oldlol: