Blake Griffin vs Kevin Durant vs Derrick Rose

[QUOTE=TheCalmInsanity]LMAO! Okay, Mr. PER (I mean, Mrs. Durant...). Getting ready to pop out some Durantettes?

This post shows that you not only watched basketball before, but you don't watch basketball now. And no- watching, stalking, and drooling over Durant DOESN'T mean you watch basketball.

Shawn Kemp 2.0? Do you know how good of a player Shawn Kemp was set to be? They were calling him the future best player ever. He was exciting, exhilarating, and everything that is right in the game of basketball. Get your facts straight before you compare people. You don't think Shawn Kemp was that overweight dude you saw at the tail end of his career since the beginning, right?

And you're a dumbass for saying Amare without a jumpshot.. Do you not remember Amare not having a jumpshot his rookie year? Do you not remember Malone not having a jump shot his rookie year?

Second, Blake Griffin not only rebounds better than Amare, he HUSTLES more than Amare. I don't think you'll find many better players in the league that are diving for loose balls, taking charges, and changing the game. Clearly you haven't watched the Clippers play.

Not only that, but Blake Griffin has 10x the basketball IQ that Amare has. He's a very good passer and is very good at not only passing out of the double team, but even making plays from the top of the key.

You should open your eyes and realize that there ARE other players other than Durant. Don't be like the Kobe fanboys that went hate mode on Lebron the second they heard rumors of him getting MVP instead of Kobe.

You want people to respect Durant but you can't even respect young talent :facepalm Saying a 20 year old rookie doesn't have a jumpshot.. While he's doing EVERYTHING else, including footwork, post moves, dunks (he gets any shot he wants), even 6-10 from 3 this year.. Makes your argument look retarded. I dare you to answer this, I'll talk to you for days about this topic. Bust out your PER or whatever the hell you need.. You're going to need a hell of a lot of help to get out of the hole you're putting yourself in with statements like these.[/QUOTE]
He's so threatened by the other young players in the league

[QUOTE=TheCalmInsanity]LMAO! Okay, Mr. PER (I mean, Mrs. Durant...). Getting ready to pop out some Durantettes?

This post shows that you not only watched basketball before, but you don't watch basketball now. And no- watching, stalking, and drooling over Durant DOESN'T mean you watch basketball.

Shawn Kemp 2.0? Do you know how good of a player Shawn Kemp was set to be? They were calling him the future best player ever. He was exciting, exhilarating, and everything that is right in the game of basketball. Get your facts straight before you compare people. You don't think Shawn Kemp was that overweight dude you saw at the tail end of his career since the beginning, right?

And you're a dumbass for saying Amare without a jumpshot.. Do you not remember Amare not having a jumpshot his rookie year? Do you not remember Malone not having a jump shot his rookie year?

Second, Blake Griffin not only rebounds better than Amare, he HUSTLES more than Amare. I don't think you'll find many better players in the league that are diving for loose balls, taking charges, and changing the game. Clearly you haven't watched the Clippers play.

Not only that, but Blake Griffin has 10x the basketball IQ that Amare has. He's a very good passer and is very good at not only passing out of the double team, but even making plays from the top of the key.

You should open your eyes and realize that there ARE other players other than Durant. Don't be like the Kobe fanboys that went hate mode on Lebron the second they heard rumors of him getting MVP instead of Kobe.

You want people to respect Durant but you can't even respect young talent :facepalm Saying a 20 year old rookie doesn't have a jumpshot.. While he's doing EVERYTHING else, including footwork, post moves, dunks (he gets any shot he wants), even 6-10 from 3 this year.. Makes your argument look retarded. I dare you to answer this, I'll talk to you for days about this topic. Bust out your PER or whatever the hell you need.. You're going to need a hell of a lot of help to get out of the hole you're putting yourself in with statements like these.[/QUOTE]

Blake has been hitting jumpers and developed a nice bankshot. His free throw shooting has already improved.

YouCallILose looks like an idiot.

[QUOTE=TheCalmInsanity]LMAO! Okay, Mr. PER (I mean, Mrs. Durant...). Getting ready to pop out some Durantettes?

This post shows that you not only watched basketball before, but you don't watch basketball now. And no- watching, stalking, and drooling over Durant DOESN'T mean you watch basketball.

Shawn Kemp 2.0? Do you know how good of a player Shawn Kemp was set to be? They were calling him the future best player ever. He was exciting, exhilarating, and everything that is right in the game of basketball. Get your facts straight before you compare people. You don't think Shawn Kemp was that overweight dude you saw at the tail end of his career since the beginning, right?

And you're a dumbass for saying Amare without a jumpshot.. Do you not remember Amare not having a jumpshot his rookie year? Do you not remember Malone not having a jump shot his rookie year?

Second, Blake Griffin not only rebounds better than Amare, he HUSTLES more than Amare. I don't think you'll find many better players in the league that are diving for loose balls, taking charges, and changing the game. Clearly you haven't watched the Clippers play.

Not only that, but Blake Griffin has 10x the basketball IQ that Amare has. He's a very good passer and is very good at not only passing out of the double team, but even making plays from the top of the key.

You should open your eyes and realize that there ARE other players other than Durant. Don't be like the Kobe fanboys that went hate mode on Lebron the second they heard rumors of him getting MVP instead of Kobe.

You want people to respect Durant but you can't even respect young talent :facepalm Saying a 20 year old rookie doesn't have a jumpshot.. While he's doing EVERYTHING else, including footwork, post moves, dunks (he gets any shot he wants), even 6-10 from 3 this year.. Makes your argument look retarded. I dare you to answer this, I'll talk to you for days about this topic. Bust out your PER or whatever the hell you need.. You're going to need a hell of a lot of help to get out of the hole you're putting yourself in with statements like these.[/QUOTE]
Just a couple of things to add to this. He calls Griffin a terrible shooter correct? Griffin is currently shooting 32% from 16-23 feet on about 3 attempts/game. Now, that isn't very good by any measures, but it's hardly terrible. Someone like Wade who is a SHOOTING guard shoots 36% from there. Other perimeter players shooting worse from there include Carter, Kenyon Dooling, Pietrus, Gallinari, Jason Kidd, Billups, and Jennings. Griffin is shooting the long range jumper at a better clip than all of those guys, and he "can't shoot."

Not to mention, his free throw shooting is much improved, as he's shooting 70% (up 12% from earlier in the year) in January. He's shown improvement in every aspect of the game, and this clown refuses to give him his due.

Edit: And oh, here's the website to backup the facts: [url]http://hoopdata.com/shotstats.aspx[/url]

[QUOTE=YouCallILose]Griffin will never be a top 5 player in the league. He is Shawn Kemp 2.0 or Amare minus a jumpshot/free throw shooting with better rebounding.


Durant is clearly the best of these 3 and this thread is a joke[/QUOTE]
:facepalm don't you feel stupid?

[QUOTE=juju151111]:facepalm don't you feel stupid?[/QUOTE]

why would i feel stupid? griffin has no game outside of dunks and he gets shut down when he goes against length

[QUOTE=YouCallILose]why would i feel stupid? griffin has no game outside of dunks and he gets shut down when he goes against length[/QUOTE]
That's why he shoots better from range than Carter, Kenyon Dooling, Pietrus, Gallinari, Jason Kidd, Billups, and Jennings right? He shoots a better percentage on MORE attempts than all of those guys from 16-23 feet. Do they all have no shot too?

[QUOTE=Dave3]That's why he shoots better from range than Carter, Kenyon Dooling, Pietrus, Gallinari, Jason Kidd, Billups, and Jennings right? He shoots a better percentage on MORE attempts than all of those guys from 16-23 feet. Do they all have no shot too?[/QUOTE]

Griffin is shooting 31.4% 10-15 feet and 32.0% 16-23 feet

those are garbage numbers

and it's not like he's getting better, in january he's shooting 29 and 29.5%

[QUOTE=YouCallILose]Griffin is shooting 31.4% 10-15 feet and 32.0% 16-23 feet

those are garbage numbers[/QUOTE]
For a rookie power forward or for an NBA superstar? Like I said, 32% from 16-23 feet is better than all of those guys I listed. Are they all also garbage from outside?

Not to mention he already has a decent post game in his first year in the league. Again I ask, why is it that you think he won't be improving?

[QUOTE=Dave3]For a rookie power forward or for an NBA superstar? Like I said, 32% from 16-23 feet is better than all of those guys I listed. Are they all also garbage from outside?

Not to mention he already has a decent post game in his first year in the league. Again I ask, why is it that you think he won't be improving?[/QUOTE]

kid hasn't improved in one facet since his sophomore year of college. not 1, he's still the exact same player just stronger from working out in the 2 years.

[QUOTE=YouCallILose]kid hasn't improved in one facet since his sophomore year of college. not 1, he's still the exact same player just stronger from working out in the 2 years.[/QUOTE]
He hasn't improved, yet he's averaging more points and about the same rebounds in the NBA than freaking college? Not to mention more assists as well? How do you put up the same numbers (at this type of volume) in the NBA while staying the same player? And he's clearly improved his conditioning, strength, speed, and vertical, all in the year he was out the entire time with a knee surgery. He improved the hardest thing to improve (athleticism) the same year he had a season ending surgery on his knee, and you think he can't improve little things that [B]ALL [/B]NBA players improve at like shooting, footwork, and defense? How does that make any sense?

[QUOTE=YouCallILose]why would i feel stupid? griffin has no game outside of dunks and he gets shut down when he goes against length[/QUOTE]

Andrew Bogut is long and a good defender, and he guarded Blake, and Blake toyed with him.

And you say all he has is dunks? You clearly don't watch Clippers games.

Why do you feel so threatened by Blake? Get off Durant's nuts already.

If Griffin shot as many freethrows as Durant I'm sure he would be leading the league in scoring as well.

[QUOTE=Fiasco]If Griffin shot as many freethrows as Durant I'm sure he would be leading the league in scoring as well.[/QUOTE]
Durant is averaging 9.2 FTA while Blake is averaging 8.6. Go troll somewhere else.

[QUOTE=YouCallILose]why would i feel stupid? griffin has no game outside of dunks and he gets shut down when he goes against length[/QUOTE]

Griffin has no game outside of dunks? The guy has incredible ballhandling and post moves. He embarasses people with some of his spin moves and can go around even guards with his quickness. The game where he dropped 47 points on 19-24 shooting, he had ONE dunk.

How many games have you watched?

And I'm sorry you couldn't reply to my post.. I know it hurts when you get destroyed on forums (although I'm sorry to say it but to you, it happens all the time).

[QUOTE=dunksby]Durant is averaging 9.2 FTA while Blake is averaging 8.6. Go troll somewhere else.[/QUOTE]
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