So are people taking the Mavs seriously as top title contender yet?

[QUOTE=thomaspynchon]It's very different this season. Their record is commanding against all the top teams, most of whom they have already beat on the road. if you looked at their stats last season, they were

2-2 vs LAL
2-2 vs OKC
[b]3-1 vs SAS[/b]
2-1 vs DEN
2-1 vs PHX
1-3 vs PORT
1-2 vs UTA

Which is decent but what it really means is they sort of took care of business AND they had a record for most wins by 1 point during a season which means they weren't really winning convincingly. This season it's quite different.[/QUOTE]
Their record against the Spurs last year in the regular season tells it all. They got their ass handed to them in the playoffs didnt they?

[QUOTE=R4E]There is a big difference between a league statistical wonder and a NBA world championship sacred moments baller.

Even the other night when the Mavs closed out the Heat in Miami - it was Terry and Marion closing the Heat out...Dirk was a witness, if that - and the best closers get much respect - it is a very difficult thing to do.[/QUOTE]


:facepalm

that is just flat out pathetic analysis

you took ONE game (that he still put up 26/9 in) to disregard his entire career. Never mind Dirk has been one of the biggest 4th quarter scorers in the NBA for 10 years now. You just flat out don't know what the hell you are talking about.

[QUOTE=R4E]Another knock on Dirk N is that he is just not tough enough to secure a nba world championship ring. [B]Garnett, for example, would throw DN halfway across the court just to intimidate him with a ring on the line[/B].[/QUOTE]You know nothing, and seemingly just make up statements out of thin air based on your own imagination.
Dirk has SLAUGHTERED Garnett throughout the two men's careers.
KG can't do a thing with him without a double team.
For example, since you seem to want to put a post-season twist on the @ss end of your statement:

[B]Nowitzki averaged 36 and 16, with KG guarding him the entire series[/B], when his Mavericks SWEPT Garnett's Wolves out of the first round of the playoffs, KG disappeared that series...and KG lost in the first round almost every single year in Minny....is he a choker in the playoffs losing that many times in the first round? All these f#@king idiots like you that seem motivated by racism really deserve to watch the 2006 finals on sodium pentethol. Dirk and the mavericks were 2006 NBA finals champions that were robbed. Mark Cuban spent millions of dollars investigating that only to get countersued by Stern, and Stern now will void Cuban's contract of ownership iuf he publishes the findings of that very investigation.

Learn a thing or two, and take your f#@king blinders off, THEN TALK.
Good day.:cheers:

[SIZE="7"][B][U]TIME WILL TELL[/U][/B][/SIZE]
[COLOR="White"]But I sure as hell hope so[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=BarberSchool]You know nothing, and seemingly just make up statements out of thin air based on your own imagination.
Dirk has SLAUGHTERED Garnett throughout the two men's careers.
KG can't do a thing with him without a double team.
For example, since you seem to want to put a post-season twist on the @ss end of your statement:

[B]Nowitzki averaged 36 and 16, with KG guarding him the entire series[/B], when his Mavericks SWEPT Garnett's Wolves out of the first round of the playoffs, KG disappeared that series...and KG lost in the first round almost every single year in Minny....is he a choker in the playoffs losing that many times in the first round? All these f#@king idiots like you that seem motivated by racism really deserve to watch the 2006 finals on sodium pentethol. Dirk and the mavericks were 2006 NBA finals champions that were robbed. Mark Cuban spent millions of dollars investigating that only to get countersued by Stern, and Stern now will void Cuban's contract of ownership iuf he publishes the findings of that very investigation.

Learn a thing or two, and take your f#@king blinders off, THEN TALK.
Good day.:cheers:[/QUOTE]

I see you all are holdin it down for Dirk up in this forum! Too funny.

Truth be told Dirk N is a regular season marvel and a playoff fraud...just put in the DVD. Dirk is 90% finesse. Yoa Ming was all finesse too. Regretably Ming's body could not hold up to the rigors of an NBA season. I suppose, as a foreign born player of the greatest heights, I should be grateful to witness Dirk N amass upper echelon statistics. After all, that is the goal, isnt it? I mean at least Dirk is athletic and his body can hold up...lol. Once the Rockets realized Ming's reluctance to mix it up in the playoffs with some of the West's more aggressive 5s and front court players? Their strategy was to surround Ming with some hyperaggressive supporting players. Similarly once Cuban and co. realized that Dirk was not the one to grit his teeth and growl in the post season? The Mavericks had to bring in Chandler and Butler who were not necessarily going to cower to teams like the Nuggets(who according to Cuban himself were "a bunch of thugs"). Anthony, Billups, Martin, Birdman and Ne Ne were not going to just fall in line with Cuban's notions of gentlemanly sportsmanship in pursuit of the western conference, apparently. The book is written - get very physical with Dirk N in a post season series...and let the chips fall.

The Mavs are playing very well right now. Let us see how the Mavs are playing in May...

[QUOTE=R4E]
Truth be told Dirk N is a regular season marvel and a playoff fraud.[/QUOTE]Son got robbed from his rightful championship in the 2006 finals, and everyone with a brain knows what went on with making D-Wade (D-Whistle) the new pretty boy savior of the league that year. David Stern knows what he did. tim Donaghy knows too. the truth will come out man, just like the truth about Sacremento vs. the Lakers came out in Donaghy's investigation.

Dirk quit basketball entirely that summer and went full-on hippie mode, backpacking across europe contemplating his life, career, and family...and what he should do....not because he lost, but after finding out that he'd been playing for a league that would do something so crooked like this, and he debated quitting the NBA that summer, and returning home to Germany to play ion the Bundesleague and win every year averaging 40.

He chose to persevere, and had his best season yet, going 67-15 with a #1 seed, winning MVP....only to have his former coach (Don Nelson), who knew all his ins-and-outs, devise a scheme to take him out of the series offensively in 07, and watch what the rest of the team did, it worked, Dirk averaged only 19 that series, and the mavs lost in the first round...and that's when all the choker talk started. he went on an even longer backpack that offseason, again going months without playing ball....but came back again to try and beat the game that was fixed against him.

He's not physically strong, but he's one of the best shooters of all-time, Like Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, Rip Hamilton, Herry West, Pistol Pete, Larry Bird.....none of those dudes had swoll arms, not even a little bit....neither will the next great shooting scorer of the NBA...Kevin Durant....Jabbar was almost all finesse, Olajuwon for most of his career was predominantly grace and finesse.....these dudes actually prefferred to be godly and graceful in every movement, never relying on violent actions in competition unless there was an advantage to doing so. they are also players NO ONE can front on...and I say that as someone brown who has kicked it in hundreds of Black barbershops on the westside, and hundreds of white barbershops on the northside.....finesse and gentlemanly greatness should be respected as much by young black men as it is by old black men....but scared is as scared does, and hatred and violence stem from fear. A fear of something different. And the way Dirk plays the game...it sure is different than how the young brothers play it.

And yet he slaughters them every year. And yes in the playoffs. A player doesn't have to be physically dominant to dominate...this is a misnomer brought up by those, who in their own experience with playing the game, ONLY had athleticism to offer on the court, they don't appreciate or admire those able to dominate a game without needing to utilize the fan's only attribute. It's the same reason them big fat white dudes watching football don't really feel the receivers too much, but they love a hard nosed Linebacker or Lineman, or a hard nosed fullback....Your motivations are no better than theirs son.

I hope you can come full circle and appreciate that Dirk Nowitzki is one of the 25 best to play the game, even if he doesn't do it "your way".

Fortuneately, this year, the Mavericks are a [B]TOP 5 DEFENSIVE TEAM[/B], without needing to be physical....we'll see what happens, but I think alot of racist haters are going to be upset.

^ Wouldn't you be the racist one since you went on that irrelevant, race baiting rant even though the post you are replying to made no mention of race? :facepalm

[QUOTE=50inchvertical]^ Wouldn't you be the racist one since you went on that irrelevant, race baiting rant even though the post you are replying to made no mention of race? :facepalm[/QUOTE]Cut the sh!t son. Read between the lines in dude's post, he tries to pretend he's diplomatic, to hide his insult....he got just the right shock, for his own particular level of understanding of the game.

[QUOTE=BarberSchool]Son got robbed from his rightful championship in the 2006 finals, and everyone with a brain knows what went on with making D-Wade (D-Whistle) the new pretty boy savior of the league that year. David Stern knows what he did. tim Donaghy knows too. the truth will come out man, just like the truth about Sacremento vs. the Lakers came out in Donaghy's investigation.
[B]
Dirk quit basketball entirely that summer and went full-on hippie mode, backpacking across europe contemplating his life, career, and family...and what he should do....not because he lost, but after finding out that he'd been playing for a league that would do something so crooked like this, and he debated quitting the NBA that summer, and returning home to Germany to play ion the Bundesleague and win every year averaging 40. [/B]
He chose to persevere, and had his best season yet, going 67-15 with a #1 seed, winning MVP....only to have his former coach (Don Nelson), who knew all his ins-and-outs, devise a scheme to take him out of the series offensively in 07, and watch what the rest of the team did, it worked, Dirk averaged only 19 that series, and the mavs lost in the first round...and that's when all the choker talk started. he went on an even longer backpack that offseason, again going months without playing ball....but came back again to try and beat the game that was fixed against him.

He's not physically strong, but he's one of the best shooters of all-time, Like Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, Rip Hamilton, Herry West, Pistol Pete, Larry Bird.....none of those dudes had swoll arms, not even a little bit....neither will the next great shooting scorer of the NBA...Kevin Durant....Jabbar was almost all finesse, Olajuwon for most of his career was predominantly grace and finesse.....these dudes actually prefferred to be godly and graceful in every movement, never relying on violent actions in competition unless there was an advantage to doing so. they are also players NO ONE can front on...and I say that as someone brown who has kicked it in hundreds of Black barbershops on the westside, and hundreds of white barbershops on the northside.....finesse and gentlemanly greatness should be respected as much by young black men as it is by old black men....but scared is as scared does, and hatred and violence stem from fear. A fear of something different. And the way Dirk plays the game...it sure is different than how the young brothers play it.

And yet he slaughters them every year. And yes in the playoffs. A player doesn't have to be physically dominant to dominate...this is a misnomer brought up by those, who in their own experience with playing the game, ONLY had athleticism to offer on the court, they don't appreciate or admire those able to dominate a game without needing to utilize the fan's only attribute. It's the same reason them big fat white dudes watching football don't really feel the receivers too much, but they love a hard nosed Linebacker or Lineman, or a hard nosed fullback....Your motivations are no better than theirs son.

I hope you can come full circle and appreciate that Dirk Nowitzki is one of the 25 best to play the game, even if he doesn't do it "your way".

Fortuneately, this year, the Mavericks are a [B]TOP 5 DEFENSIVE TEAM[/B], without needing to be physical....we'll see what happens, but I think alot of racist haters are going to be upset.[/QUOTE]


is this true? I wouldn't be surprised if the Finals defeat led him to almost lose his mind.

they wont beat the Lakers with Barea trying to drive on the Laker bigs ..but if Baebouis breaks out and takes Bareas minutes..

then yes i take them serious ..

I was really impressed with their defense on the road against Miami .. they shut down the paint and shut down Lebron ..

[QUOTE=bettalaylow]What an insightful comment considering Duncan isn't even the goto guy anymore on the Spurs and what the hell do you mean by big wing player really that's what the Mavs need to win the West smh. Go back to basketball school.[/QUOTE]

I did and I found out that a basketball team consists of five players. I'm glad I could share that knowledge with you. You obviously need it.

you havent heard the mavs excuses?

they dont care about playoffs, they're proven in the regular season.

tell me who doesn't want to watch a Heat vs Lakers finals?

Mavs to the finals? bleh....

make it happen, Stern

[QUOTE=All Net]Lets face it they are playing great, 24-5 record, beaten Miami twice, Spurs, great record against 500 above teams

Chandler inside has made a real difference inside for them.

You believe they have a great shot to be champs come end of the season? or still not sure?[/QUOTE]
They are legit for sure Net. There can be only one though so if they do not make it to the top this time it could be a tough summer.

The main difference between these Mavs and the post Warriors Mavs is that they believe again for the first time in years. Chandler changed the whole attitude of the club.

He also gives the Mavs an opportunity to play 5 on 5 on offense, instead of 4 on 5. In the play-offs Haywood and Dampier are left more open than Magic Johnson at a hooker convention. Players rotate of them to double Dirk and mark the shooters tight. Now you have Chandler at the rim, who can finish and if he gets fouled on late rotations actually makes his free throws unlike Dampier and Haywood. If you don