Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
[QUOTE=New York Knicks]You're not getting the point. Go-to-players are rare. As much as I like Landry Fields, hustle guys are common. Stars like Melo are rare.
Really? Do you enjoy that stupid Amare ISO from 20 feet away trying to barrel his way towards the hoop? He's the f'n Center and he spends so much time away from the paint. He comes off curls like a guard. Ridiculous. As good as his jumper has been at times, it ruins floor balance when your big guy is spending so much time on the perimeter. I want his ass on the post. If Lamarcus Aldridge can learn a post game in 4 seasons, I want him to at least try sometime in his 9th season.
Who said it wasn't an asset? It doesn't make him a star though. And he's already maxed out his potential pretty much. His limited ballhandling slows down his entire offensive game. He's never gonna reliably be able to create offense for himself.
Great. And he does it maybe....one quarter every 5 games? I'm sure Kyle Korver has done that too.
It's not like we're talking about irreplaceable pieces here. We're talking about trading for a guy that's been Top 10-15 pretty much every year of his career. We can sign whoever's available in the D-League to fill up the rest of the roster to play 5-10 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Then who is there on the Knicks roster to be the hustle guy that every team needs? Landry Fields is a very solid player. He is a very good 6th man. It's not like guys like him just grow on trees. He doesn't do anything wrong, and does everything right. Those guys don't come around every day. You're clearly underestimating his worth.
Amar'e has been playing the 4 a lot so he won't be around the rim at all times. But he does a solid job driving to the rim. Sometimes it does turn into a bad shot, or offensive foul, but it works more times than not.
Not every single player needs to create offense for themselves and be a go-to guy! What is your problem. This isn't the all-star game or NBA 2k10.
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
[QUOTE]OJ Mayo would not be happy with a trade to Denver, sources say. Mayo wants to go to winning situation. He would love to go to the Knicks[/QUOTE].
[url]http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard[/url]
You have got to be kidding me. Stop the madness OJ. Go to Denver get your stats man. Then talk about playing for a big market, not the other way around. What is his PR people telling him seriously.
Doesn't he realize that any situation for him is better than the one in Memphis?
And since when has Memphis been a winning situation.
Foolishness that's all I have to say.
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
holy toledo.....things be going crazy........
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
If the Knicks were able to get Mayo, and Denver still b*tched about it not being enough, I'd just cut off all talks.
Knicks got a good thing going on, they aren't the desperate team. New Jersey can still get a top pick this year, they don't need to guy the team.
Denver is lucky Melo doesn't put out the word that he is not signing anywhere. Then Denver would be stuck with him, and he'd leave them and sign somewhere else. Denver would get nothing in return.
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
[QUOTE=lilojmayo].
[url]http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard[/url]
You have got to be kidding me. Stop the madness OJ. Go to Denver get your stats man. Then talk about playing for a big market, not the other way around. What is his PR people telling him seriously.
Doesn't he realize that any situation for him is better than the one in Memphis?
And since when has Memphis been a winning situation.
Foolishness that's all I have to say.[/QUOTE]
I actually agree with this.
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
Although I do believe Walsh wants to get Melo....another reason for Knicks to get involved is simply to force Nets to give up more for Carmelo. Nuggets and Knicks both have interest in seeing Nets weakened as much as possible, even if Nets do snag Melo. So Denver and NY can work together to make that happen.
I mean, I'm not saying this whole Walsh trying to get Mayo for Melo is BS, but it would be a smart move nonetheless if it was.
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
i actually think the knicks should give up chandler and gallo, but keep fields for our 2 guard position, he can be valuable still with getting to loose bals, and we wont need to require him to shoot the ball much unless he gets a nice open shot (which he will get alot of i believe)
Seriously pple, we get melo now and we can build our team as it goes along. There will be veterans looking for jobs this offseason where we can split our midlevel since we wont be below the cap. But melo felton and amare is a good foundation to start a new team.
If we can get Melo, send either gallo/chandler to memphis
then send the other remaining to denver
memphis sends mayo to denver
we give up our 2014 pick
trade randolph for another pick (if required)
send curry packing
and try and land a 2nd player to help out the roster a bit ( most preferable a agile center)
we would be looking decent.
shawn williams is proving to himself that he belongs
we can develop mozgov as it comes
turiaf is a good backup
azuibuke may come back after a long stint on the disabled (and trust me if hes 100%, this guy can really play)
I would be happy with a deal giving up chandler and gallo. But hopefully we can keep fields out of any deal
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
[QUOTE=bagelred]Although I do believe Walsh wants to get Melo....another reason for Knicks to get involved is simply to force Nets to give up more for Carmelo. Nuggets and Knicks both have interest in seeing Nets weakened as much as possible, even if Nets do snag Melo. So Denver and NY can work together to make that happen.
I mean, I'm not saying this whole Walsh trying to get Mayo for Melo is BS, but it would be a smart move nonetheless if it was.[/QUOTE]
I agree.
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
[QUOTE=bluechox2]i actually think the knicks shuld give up chandler and gallo, but keep fields for our 2 guard position, he can be valuable still with getting to loose bals, and we wont need to require him to shoot the ball much unless he gets a nice open shot (which he will get alot of i believe)
Serioulsy pple, we get melo now and we can build our team as it goes along. There will be veterans looking for jobs this offseason where we can split our midlevel since we wont be below the cap. But melo felton and amare is a good foundation to start a new team.
If we can get Melo, send either gallo/chandler to memphis
then send the other remaining to denver
memphis sends mayo to denver
we give up our 2014 pick
trade randolph for another pick (if required)
send curry packing
and try and land a 2nd player to help out the roster a bit ( most preferabble a agile center)
we would be looking decent.
shawn williams is proving to himself that he belongs
we can develop mozgov as it comes
turiaf is a good backup
I would be happy with a deal giving up chandler and gallo. But hopefullywe can keep fields out of any deal[/QUOTE]
Well,I wouldn't like to lose both Chandler and Gallinari but if we bring Melo and a defensive center then we would be contenders.
Felton
Fields
Anthony
Stoudemire
Defensive center
I would like to keep Chandler/Gallo because we need a strong bench to make something big.
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
chandler/gallo - yea sure we can wait for them but amare aint getting any younger. and who knows how his knee will hold up in 2 or 3 years.
and were talking about possibly getting a player who can easily drop 30ppg a night as he has proven. a player that denver even doesn't want to trade but unfortunately has to...and knicks fans are pretending they dont need him
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
[QUOTE=bluechox2]chandler/gallo - yea sure we can wait for them but amare aint getting any younger. and who knows how his knee will hold up in 2 or 3 years.
and were talking about possibly getting a player who can easily drop 30ppg a night as he has proven. a player that denver even doesn't want to trade but unfortunately has to...and knicks fans are pretending they dont need him[/QUOTE]
We need Melo but we also need a defensive center and it would be nice (if it's possible) to keep Chandler or Gallo in the team who will make a big impact from the bench.
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
[QUOTE=VishaltotheG]An endless supply of Gino's East[/QUOTE]
:eek:
I think anyone that has eaten Gino's would agree to that trade.
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
I don't want Mayo. His problem is that he doesn't get enough shots. That wouldn't change at all in NY, we're better off with Fields (though Mayo is the better player). Scoring aside and the minimum playmaking he'd do with Felton on the bench, Fields is the much better player.
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
[QUOTE=Snoop_Cat]I don't want Mayo. His problem is that he doesn't get enough shots. That wouldn't change at all in NY, we're better off with Fields (though Mayo is the better player). Scoring aside and the minimum playmaking he'd do with Felton on the bench, Fields is the much better player.[/QUOTE]
We would not get Mayo,we would send Mayo along with someone else to Denver for Carmelo Anthony.
Btw,I like your nick
Snoop_Cat :lol
Re: Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..
[QUOTE=Clutch]We would not get Mayo,we would send Mayo along with someone else to Denver for Carmelo Anthony.
Btw,I like your nick
Snoop_Cat :lol[/QUOTE]
That was in reference to Broussard's update about Mayo wanting to play for a winner like the Knicks, my fault for not being specific.
And thanks :D