If American Football wasn't called "football", would it be more popular...

I've played both football and rugby, and football hits are way worse, it's much more violent when it comes to tackling. It's simply more high impact.

It's not about who has better genes, it's about the pads, the mentality, and situational tackling. Rugby doesn't stop and reset nearly as much as football, you would be stupid to leave your feet to try to crush a player, you would be so out of position, and you would create a hugeee defensive liability for your team. It's not nearly as important to hit your man football-style in rugby. There is a lot more tying up/dragging going on without going to the ground all the time.

Now in other aspects, football, rugby, aussie rules fb, etc. are similar. There is a shitload of cleat stomping, knees, forearms, scrotum grabbing, eye gouging, finger/ankle bending goodness.

I'm a football fan over soccer even though I like both, but if you gave Cristiano Ronaldo a through ball, his speed to that ball would be faster than a good amount of football players.

It just blows my mind how butthurt and defensive Euros get the second anyone says "NFL has crazy athletes and is insanely violent." It's like saying that is an immediate challenge to their manhood and they go crazy trying to make it sound like NFL is like Nerf rugby. Get a f*cking clue guys, nobody's saying you don't have to be a great athlete to play soccer/rugby/aussie rules, whatever. This isn't a personal challenge to you. Take a breath and get a grip.

[QUOTE=Maksimilian]Cool what are the other facets of athleticism?

And why would NFL players automatically be faster? Is it because African-Americans (And Carabean Africans) dominate running events at the olympics so it means African Americans in the NFL could do it too? Isnt that stereotyping?

By that logic Soccer players should automaticaly be stronger than NFL players because white Europeans dominate the world in weight lifting, Crossfit Judo, and wrestling etc?

[B]Right????[/B][/QUOTE]
Weight lifters don't play soccer...they play in the NFL though

and yes I fully believe African Americans are faster on average than any other race on the planet, evidence in shown by the fact that they ARE faster, just watch some sports...Jamaica's gene pool comes from the exact same slave trade, who dominates the Olympics in speed?...Jamaica and the US...all part of that same history

the top 8 fastest speeds of all time are all from Jamaica and the US...which have the same ancestors

[QUOTE=johndeeregreen]It just blows my mind how butthurt and defensive Euros get the second anyone says "NFL has crazy athletes and is insanely violent." It's like saying that is an immediate challenge to their manhood and they go crazy trying to make it sound like NFL is like Nerf rugby. Get a f*cking clue guys, nobody's saying you don't have to be a great athlete to play soccer/rugby/aussie rules, whatever. This isn't a personal challenge to you. Take a breath and get a grip.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. That's the only thing that gets me. They tend to refuse to acknowledge the talent and athleticism of NFL players just because of the padding, and love to compare american football to rugby even though the two sports are quite different. All of the professional athletes from these sports are great athletes in their own right.

The padding HELPS the players be more violent. If they didn't have pads, it would be more like rugby/aussie rules fb. You simply can't generate as much force without pads. If you put a metal cage, an unbreakable helmet, and shoulder pads on theses savage Polynesians in rugby, you would get way crazier hits.

Americans dont care what the rest of the world thinks about it's sports...

We are practically oblivious to the rest of the world.

I think this p*sses off Euros

We play against ourselves for the world championship :oldlol: dont even consider the rest of the world...

Someone mentioned earlier that football is by far the most popular sport in America, and its true..

we couldnt care less what the rest of the world thinks either. I think that bothers people who arent from here..

Football is incredibly violent but also full of strategy.. almost like chess. its a great combination of violence and strategy

plus there are only 16 games (So every play and every game is very important) and a week between each game to properly build the hype

[QUOTE=Maksimilian]Cool what are the other facets of athleticism?

And why would NFL players automatically be faster? Is it because African-Americans (And Carabean Africans) dominate running events at the olympics so it means African Americans in the NFL could do it too? Isnt that stereotyping?

By that logic Soccer players should automaticaly be stronger than NFL players because white Europeans dominate the world in weight lifting, Crossfit Judo, and wrestling etc?

[B]Right????[/B][/QUOTE]
:facepalm :facepalm

because they have this thing called the NFL COMBINE that measure a ton of data from athletic tests....wtf is wrong with people here?

you can't really run the 40 much faster than top tier nfl players

[QUOTE=johndeeregreen]It just blows my mind how butthurt and defensive Euros get the second anyone says "NFL has crazy athletes and is insanely violent." It's like saying that is an immediate challenge to their manhood and they go crazy trying to make it sound like NFL is like Nerf rugby. Get a f*cking clue guys, nobody's saying you don't have to be a great athlete to play soccer/rugby/aussie rules, whatever. This isn't a personal challenge to you. Take a breath and get a grip.[/QUOTE]

Yup.

Someone saying that a small sport drawing from a very small pool of talent might not have the best athletic talent in the world = "getting very defensive"

It's just facts and common sense here. Scale matters. If you have a sport that is practiced by 50000 people and compare it to a sport that is practiced by 50 million people, the latter will have superior athletes. No reason to get butt hurt over that.

[QUOTE=LJJ]Yup.

Someone saying that a small sport drawing from a very small pool of talent might not have the best athletic talent in the world = "getting very defensive"

It's just facts and common sense here. Scale matters. If you have a sport that is practiced by 50000 people and compare it to a sport that is practiced by 50 million people, the latter will have superior athletes. No reason to get butt hurt over that.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=LJJ]Yup.

Someone saying that a small sport drawing from a very small pool of talent might not have the best athletic talent in the world = "getting very defensive"

It's just facts and common sense here. Scale matters. If you have a sport that is practiced by 50000 people and compare it to a sport that is practiced by 50 million people, the latter will have superior athletes. No reason to get butt hurt over that.[/QUOTE]




these players are bred and hand picked specifically for the elite telent and skills they have

the pool is so small precisely because the skill set needed to qualify is incredibly specific..

Only the fastest, strongest, and most agile players can even qualify to get a look at an NFL combine

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]these players are bred and hand picked specifically for the elite telent and skills they have

the pool is so small precisely because the skill set needed to qualify is incredibly specific..

Only the fastest, strongest, and most agile players can even qualify to get a look at an NFL combine[/QUOTE]

The pool is small because it's played in one country, not for any other reason.

To understand how the rest of the world looks at American Football, you only need to look at Sumo. The Japanese think of these Sumo athletes as the greatest in the world also, but nobody in America really takes it seriously and people see it as an insignificant, marginal novelty. That's[I] exactly [/I]how everybody outside of the US views American Football, and with good reason because that's is basically what it is.

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