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[QUOTE=EuJazz]Never said he was better than Miller, fyi, you ****ing asshat.
How many people in history have averaged something like that? [B]Meaningless my ass. And it's the regular season MVP, 50 wins isn't successful now-a-days? [/B] [/QUOTE]
of course is not when there are better players on better teams, lebron's 50 wins was like the 5th or 6th best record in the league, mvp my ass, 50 wins in the east is crap, and thats exactly why kidd didn't win it, because he had no arguments over tim duncan.
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[QUOTE=DreamRockets]no, we dont, marion balls because of nash, qrich the same, johnsonis the only one legit.
and no one invited you to the discussion MR "stockton is a better shooter than miller and hornacek" :roll: :roll: :roll: better go a delete those bs posts you made on the stockton threads :roll:[/QUOTE]
Why dont you go read them, dumbass.
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the hypocrisy continues.
Nash supporter: its all about winning Nashs team won more than kobes or lebrons.
Dirk supporter: Umm Dirks team won more than nashs while dirk put up better individual numbers.
Nash Supporter: Nash didnt have amare.
Dirk supporter:He did have marion and diaw and bell and barbosa and thomas and...
Nash supporter: Ummm Nash is the greatest player ever....
dirk Supporter: so you have no clue what the hell you are talking about?
Nash supporter: Nash makes everyone better...
Dirk supporter: thats what i thought...
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[QUOTE=Shepseskaf]So, this is your convoluted reasoning for saying that because he helped to facilitate getting his teammates involved (which is a point guard's job), which led to a very good record, he somehow is the best player on the team?
What are you smoking? This Nash groupie thing is so far out of control, it isn't funny anymore.[/QUOTE]
again wh0re boy , what would the suns be if nash sits out and amare and marion lead the team without him all season long ? :hammerhead: garbage is what they would be without their mvp :pimp:
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[QUOTE=raiderfan19]the hypocrisy continues.
Nash supporter: its all about winning Nashs team won more than kobes or lebrons.
Dirk supporter: Umm Dirks team won more than nashs while dirk put up better individual numbers.
Nash Supporter: Nash didnt have amare.
Dirk supporter:He did have marion and diaw and bell and barbosa and thomas and...
Nash supporter: Ummm Nash is the greatest player ever....
dirk Supporter: so you have no clue what the hell you are talking about?
Nash supporter: Nash makes everyone better...
Dirk supporter: thats what i thought...[/QUOTE]
Thats basically how it went
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[QUOTE=DreamRockets]of course is not when there are better players on better teams, lebron's 50 wins was like the 5th or 6th best record in the league, mvp my ass, 50 wins in the east is crap, and thats exactly why kidd didn't win it, because he had no arguments over tim duncan.[/QUOTE]
LeBron averaged 31/7/7 on the team with the 7th best record in the league, actually. Dirk averaged 27/9/3/1blk on the team with the 2nd best record, both deserved the MVP over Nash. The end.
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no, lebron didn't , you still don't make an argument for him which has any weight except for his horseshi** numbers which didnt translate into wins :hammerhead: so far dirk is the only argument here, but thats ok, after all stockton is a better shooter than hornacek so we can pretty much know what kind of replies to wait from you :pimp:
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on the marion thing im guessing the only way you would even begin to argue he makes him better is scoring because if you want to argue its nash that makes him a better rebounder well ill just laugh you off the board. These are marions scoring averages from each of the 3 pre nash seasons.
19.1
21.1
19.0
3 nash seasons(im including this one
19.4
21.4
19.9
Umm not that big of a difference guys...
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[QUOTE=DreamRockets]again wh0re boy , what would the suns be if nash sits out and amare and marion lead the team without him all season long ? :hammerhead: garbage is what they would be without their mvp :pimp:[/QUOTE]
Mmm, Barbosa starting and Banks backing him up? That's better than you'd think. Bell, Marion, Thomas, '30 ppg Amare', Diaw, James Jones, Jalen Rose, Jumaine Jones...I bet they win 50+
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[QUOTE=DreamRockets]no, lebron didn't , you still don't make an argument for him which has any weight except for his horseshi** numbers which didnt translate into wins :hammerhead: so far dirk is the only argument here, but thats ok, after all stockton is a better shooter than hornacek so we can pretty much know what kind of replies to wait from you :pimp:[/QUOTE]
im a Dirk fan. Ill straight up admit that. However your arguments just seem abit retarded. So basically now its "well he only screwed one guy so whats the big deal?" Great...
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[QUOTE=DreamRockets]no, lebron didn't , you still don't make an argument for him which has any weight except for his horseshi** numbers which didnt translate into wins :hammerhead: so far dirk is the only argument here, but thats ok, after all stockton is a better shooter than hornacek so we can pretty much know what kind of replies to wait from you :pimp:[/QUOTE]
Stockton's just as good of a shooter, exactly what I said in the other thread, horsec0ck.
Yes, LeBron did. And HOW IN THE WORLD does 31 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists every night NOT translate into wins for Cleveland? Are you serious? You're kidding, right?
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if you chose marion you cant choose amare and vis versa, nash did it with only one of them in 06.
where would amare lead the suns without nash and marion ?
where would marion lead the suns without nash and amare ?
straight to lottery baby :hammerhead:
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[QUOTE=raiderfan19]on the marion thing im guessing the only way you would even begin to argue he makes him better is scoring because if you want to argue its nash that makes him a better rebounder well ill just laugh you off the board. These are marions scoring averages from each of the 3 pre nash seasons.
19.1
21.1
19.0
3 nash seasons(im including this one
19.4
21.4
19.9
Umm not that big of a difference guys...[/QUOTE]
Nash, what a monster. Marion's rebounds went up, maybe it's because Nash is hucking up shots with his hair in his eyes. GOAT!
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[QUOTE=EuJazz]Stockton's just as good of a shooter, exactly what I said in the other thread, horsec0ck.
Yes, LeBron did. And HOW IN THE WORLD does 31 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists every night NOT translate into wins for Cleveland? Are you serious? You're kidding, right?[/QUOTE]
how in the world does he only get 50 wins in the pathetic east if those all-mighty legendary numbers translate into wins ? they should have won 70 games then if his numbers translate into wins :pimp:
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[QUOTE=DreamRockets]again wh0re boy , what would the suns be if nash sits out and amare and marion lead the team without him all season long ? :hammerhead: garbage is what they would be without their mvp :pimp:[/QUOTE]
Ok, I see that you're an idiot so I'll try to use simple words:
I never said that Nash wasn't a key part of his team's success. He obviously was and is.
However, nothing that you just said explains [B]why he should be the MVP of the entire league[/B].
Do you get it? He is an excellent distributor, who gets his teammates involved but a player averaging 15.5ppg, even with lots of assists, does not rise to the traditional level of someone who wins the MVP.
Was that simple enough for you?
