Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=YouCallILose]a lot of butthurt in this post :roll:
can't even stay on topic
im also loving the fact that durant is a better scorer, shooter, rebounder, shot blocker, and arguably[B] a better defender[/B].[/QUOTE]
Is that a joke? haha Rose is the best point gaurd defensively in the league and wayyyyyyy better than durant that its not even close. Durant cant play defense to save his life
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=Go Getter]I'm saying that Lebron is not better than Rose in every facet of the game...followmenowsee.[/QUOTE]
What is Rose better at? LeBron led a team of scrubs to 61 and 66 wins and has been to the Finals. Rose has never won a playoff series and might not reach 61 wins with one of if not the best supporting cast in the NBA
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=Go Getter]You said "create their own shot" not "have plays run for."[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes: , the focal point of an offensive possession. if a guy can get a shot off of an iso with no help, its just as useful as a guy who can get a good shot off, off of a screen.
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=YouCallILose]What is Rose better at? LeBron led a team of scrubs to 61 and 66 wins and has been to the Finals. Rose has never won a playoff series and might not reach 61 wins with one of if not the best supporting cast in the NBA[/QUOTE]
Too bad your boy durant disappears in the playoffs :roll: :roll:
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=yeaaaman]
People getting overly excited about one amazing season.[/QUOTE]
Actually Rose had a pretty good rookie season and followed that up with a stellar sophomore effort.
He's on his way to a HOF career (there's A LOT OF WORK to do before considering that but it IS a realistic outcome if he continues to get better and work hard).
Chicago is a big basketball town and we traded away three very promising guards and two great backups because of Derrick Rose.
He, along with Noah and Deng, has turned the franchise around and Bull's fans are happy about that.
Haters gonna hate but I don't care
:party:
I hope we at least take another step towards the conference finals...making it to the ECF would be a step forward in my book and anything else would be kind of disappointing.
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=Go Getter]Lebron is a better leader? A better teammate? A better ball handler? Has a better mid range game (floaters/jumpers)?
He's more loyal to his organization? Carries less baggage? Wants to win more? Plays harder?
I don't think so chump--keep hating.[/QUOTE]
yes - has actually led his team past the first round
better teammate? what does that entail? hes a better player and is more impactful, so yes, hes a better teammate by that definition.
a better ball handler? yes. now that rose is handling the ball like lebron was his turnover numbers have gone up.
better midrange game? by a mile. your boy fell in love with the 3pt shot. stats back this up as well.
wants to win more? plays harder? how are you judging this exactly?
more loyal to the organization? based on what? the organization wasnt loyal to lebron. all those years and not a single decent player was brought to him to play alongside. the fact he didnt leave after his first contract is amazing considering he watched a peer of his win a title when a gm clearly put together a contending team for him in dwyane wade.
less baggage? yeah, you clearly know everything about nba players. :facepalm
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=chips93]the bulls with lebron would be much better. lebron would suit chicago perfectly, [B]two guys who can get their own shot from time to time[/B] in boozer and deng, and noah, and boozer can finish well around the rim off of LBJ pick and rolls, and deng, korver can space the floor, obviously the bulls would need a replacement pg tho[/QUOTE]
YOu said it man don't roll your eyes at me.
Anyone who is a BUll's fan or watches our team knows that Deng's offensive weakness is getting his own shot without help.
Boozer also struggles mightily getting off his own shot while being guarded by taller defenders.
I'm not trying to be an asshole man but you were wrong there and just can't admit it.
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=DRose.IS.da.MAN]Is that a joke? haha Rose is the best point gaurd defensively in the league [/QUOTE]
yep, its gotten to kobe level.
wouldnt surprise me if this no defense playing hack started getting all defensive teams soon. hell even this year wouldnt be shocking.
i'd literally take every starting pg in the league over rose on the defensive end and i'd even think real hard about taking him over nash.
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
So I guess people would want Rose over Wade as well:facepalm
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=Go Getter]YOu said it man don't roll your eyes at me.
Anyone who is a BUll's fan or watches our team knows that Deng's offensive weakness is getting his own shot without help.
Boozer also struggles mightily getting off his own shot while being guarded by taller defenders.
I'm not trying to be an asshole man but you were wrong there and just can't admit it.[/QUOTE]
you realize that deng is getting the ball assisted to him at a very similar rate to say dirk nowitzki this year, who many consider amazing at creating his own shot.
or even that of carmelo a few years ago at denver. :oldlol:
to say he can't create his own shot is a joke. keep riding that d rose diick though.
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=donald_trump]
less baggage? yeah, you clearly know everything about nba players. :facepalm[/QUOTE]
You must not have seen the news today, Lebron's mom is all over it.
Lebron has a big press conference for his FA signing.
Lebron HAS TO have jobs and flights for his large entourage (Derrick has his brothers).
Lebron skips press conferences to go cry on the team bus or plane after tough losses.
Lebron goes on ESPN dancing in a gay "World Class Wrecking Crew" outfit looking mad dumb.
:rolleyes:
I don't have to know [I]everything[/I] about Lebron and Rose to know that Rose is less maintenence and has less baggage....it's pretty evident.
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=Go Getter]YOu said it man don't roll your eyes at me.
Anyone who is a BUll's fan or watches our team knows that Deng's offensive weakness is getting his own shot without help.
Boozer also struggles mightily getting off his own shot while being guarded by taller defenders.
I'm not trying to be an asshole man but you were wrong there and just can't admit it.[/QUOTE]
i was wring, i did mean to say you can run a play for either of them but to me they are in practice the same thing.
there is no difference tho, a guy running off of screens, or getting an entry pass into the low block isnt help is it? how is a guy who can score off of an iso any different to a guy who can score off a curl?
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
This is my honest opinion as a life-long Bulls fan, as someone who always put the organization above any one player, even Michael Jordan.
Given all the humility, loyalty, and characteristics Derrick Rose has shown as a human being outside of the basketball court, mixed with the fact that he's improved every single year and everything points to him having the same drive that players like Kobe and Jordan had, I would honestly not trade him for someone like Lebron given all that has happened last summer through the decision, the show-boating and dancing, all the other stories and events that portray Lebron as more of a man-child then mature male adult.
That's JUST my personal opinion though. If someone were to say they would trade Rose for Lebron, that would make perfect sense to me too. And I wouldn't chide them about it.
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
[QUOTE=donald_trump]you realize that deng is getting the ball assisted to him at a very similar rate to say dirk nowitzki this year, who many consider amazing at creating his own shot.
or even that of carmelo a few years ago at denver. :oldlol:
to say he can't create his own shot is a joke. keep riding that d rose diick though.[/QUOTE]
Deng cannot creat off the dribble well.
Not saying he can't but it is definietly not a strength...it could be considered a weakness.
When we had Deng, Gordon, Kirk on the perimeter we struggled to score.
In comes this rookie and all of a sudden our offense looks TONS better.
Call it what you want but real recognize real...
Re: Would Bulls fans trade Derrick Rose for LeBron James if they had the chance?
Lebron should be thanking Derrick Rose for helping him get the 2nd seed in the East if they can get the job done against the Bobcats.