What's up with fans being fans of players first, franchises second?

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Why does it matter? A fan is a fan. No merits of being one make one person better than the other. Why is rooting for a logo, no matter how it's run better than being a fan of a particular skill set, or bond with an individual player?[/QUOTE]

Old thread, and read the OP. I said I didn't understand it. I don't see why it's so popular. There's no "better" way to watch sports, it's your choice. I've had favorite players, cheered for Melo for a long ass time. Players come and go, teams are around forever.

It's just crazy to me to see Laker fans or Miami fans or whatever team shit on there own players to prop up an individual. To see grown men be so dedicated to another dude and only him like there 14 years old again. You can't deny that alot of NBA fans have a different kinda dedication to individual players.

NFL doesn't happen anywhere near as much, NHL doesn't happen much at all. Don't follow the MLB but would guess it doesn't happen. People shit on there favorite players when they choke in those sports, with the NBA it's all about the player for some people.

Just think it's interesting. Guess the NBA markets the sport different and to see how effective it's been is kinda crazy. They've had alot of success doing it. Seems it started with Jordan. Once again I'm not saying it's worse or I'm not immune or better for it just something I always wondered, well 3 years ago :oldlol: I just don't get it past a certain age. I never understood the Nuggets fans who watched Denver for 7+ years and left with Melo.

[QUOTE=NuggetsFan]Seems it started with Jordan.[/QUOTE]
It didn't. Magic, Bird, and Doctor J.

[QUOTE=DMAVS41]

But I'm currently a bigger Dirk fan than a Mavs fan...don't see anything wrong with it.[/QUOTE]

So do you root for Dirk accomplishments above the team? Would you rather Dirk average 35-12-3 for the finals and lose, or him average 13-7-3 and have a team effort and win? While

I'm NOT saying anything about favorite players. I have those too obviously. What I'm talking about is when somebody cheers for an individual above the team in the sense that they'd rather see them succeed more so than the team, the people who attack teammates, franchises etc.

Not talking about you really. I'm going on a limb that you've followed them for 20+ years and when Dirk retires you'll continue to do so. That 6 years ago if Dirk was traded you would have remained a Mavericks fan and just followed Dirk/cheered for him as well.

[QUOTE=Mr. Jabbar]players come and go Franchises are forever. [COLOR=white](no pun intended Seattle fans)[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

supersonics

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]It didn't. Magic, Bird, and Doctor J.[/QUOTE]

Nowhere near the same media push, it wasn't available. Jordan had his brand EVERYWHERE. As a kid when I didn't know anything about the NBA really, or could watch games I had tons of Jordan stuff, seen him on everything. The marketing/media MJ push may be the biggest thing we've ever seen in sports. It skyrocketed the NBA.

don't understand what's so hard to grasp about liking a player and following them throughout their career hoping they succeed. this is especially true for people who don't live in nba cities. what reason do they have to follow specific franchises?

i like player a. i hope player a plays well and succeeds. pretty simple.

and i don't think anyone likes just 1 player. they probably have multiple players they enjoy watching. then when new players come into the league and they get to see them play they may or may not become fans of them as well.

The NBA is alot more fluid than other sports in my opinion. There's alot of turnover in terms of successful teams, I mean who outside people in Los Angeles or Boston would actually bother to watch LA or Boston this year? For most other sports, sucessful, historic, teams are much more stable.

List of Heat bandwagon fans:

Lebron23
Silk and his multiple ALTS
pauk and his many alts
Marlo and his many alts
zoom17
ArbitraryWater
J. Shuttlesworth
Trollsmasher
HoopsNumero
Solefade
Keno
TylerOO
NumberSix

Sixers forever :rockon:

[QUOTE=Combat Wombat]List of Heat bandwagon fans:

Lebron23
Silk and his multiple ALTS
pauk and his many alts
Marlo and his many alts
zoom17
ArbitraryWater
J. Shuttlesworth
Trollsmasher
HoopsNumero
Solefade
Keno
TylerOO[/QUOTE]


what's wrong with this?


lebron is an amazing player and he plays the game the right way and seems like a great teammate :confusedshrug:

why wouldn't you be a fan of this guy?

[IMG]http://content.sportslogos.net/logos/6/225/full/r4vbh4fvvsxlczqefifkdgyj5.gif[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Combat Wombat]List of Heat bandwagon fans:

Lebron23
Silk and his multiple ALTS
pauk and his many alts
Marlo and his many alts
zoom17
ArbitraryWater
J. Shuttlesworth
Trollsmasher
HoopsNumero
Solefade
Keno
TylerOO[/QUOTE]

What these fakkits have in common is they care more about lehgh accomplishments more than the team. They throw anyone they can under the bus to prop of their beta hero.

[QUOTE=jimmy77x]What these fakkits have in common is they care more about lehgh accomplishments more than the team. They throw anyone they can under the bus to prop of their beta hero.[/QUOTE]



and you bandwagon haters keep spewing the same old material over and over every year and then eat crow in june

[QUOTE=jimmy77x]What these fakkits have in common is they care more about lehgh accomplishments more than the team. They throw anyone they can under the bus to prop of their beta hero.[/QUOTE]

It's not only LeBron. People here do the same shit with every player. Jordan stans will legit tell you he crafted Pippen. Kobe stans love making Pau seem like an average player who got carried to rings as Kobe rode off into the sunset.

[QUOTE=Rubio2Gasol]The NBA is alot more fluid than other sports in my opinion. There's alot of turnover in terms of successful teams, I mean who outside people in Los Angeles or Boston would actually bother to watch LA or Boston this year? For most other sports, sucessful, historic, teams are much more stable.[/QUOTE]

Huh? Lakers have had a contending team for a decade. Boston had a great team for a nice stretch. Doesn't matter the sport, teams are up and done. I'd actually say in basketball once you get a good team your guaranteed to be in the mix for a long time.

Anyways old thread. Had nothing to do with location/hometown team or my way is better than your way. I was just curious. Wasn't even talking about favorite players, guess it was more about "fanboys". Mostly because in other sports the team on the front of the jersey is more important than it seems to be with NBA. Well NBA online messageboards. I've yet to encounter somebody who was like yeah I only watch LeBron James as an adult. I assume alot of these LeBron James fans say there Heat fans when there in a bar or at a party or just shooting the shit at work.

BTW fans who have cheered for Boston/Lakers first probably still watched the team this year. Celtics have fans worldwide when they had the terrible years before the big 3. Sure there still around waiting to get back to the promiseland.