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[QUOTE=Soundwave]What's so unfortunate about it? Let someone else contend for a title for a few friggin' years.
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WTF are you 12 years old dude? This isnt a pickup game at the local park bro, where we "let people win because they arent good enough"
This is a god damn business. And the business is TO WIN BASKETBALL GAMES, AND CHAMPIONSHIPS. The more you put into it as owners, the MORE you get out of it.
Wtf so ANY franchise that wins a lot should step aside, and "let someone else contend for a few friggin years?"
Come on now.
[I]"lolz We've been hoggin them rings...you take your turn now"[/I]
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Honestly what if the Lakers won the championship this year with Chris Paul, and afterwards it came out a team like Washington was offering John Wall + 1st round pick for an unextended Chris Paul? Or Indy was offering Paul George\tons of money savings for the team? But the Hornets decided to go with Odom, Kevin Martin etc. The whole world would talk about how an NBA own team made an extremely subjective choice that completely changed the history of the NBA.
Still don't think Chris Paul to L.A is dead. Think they'll wait a little longer, training camp hasn't even started and there trading him? Why not wait a few weeks into the season. His value is still there. Maybe NO wins some games, surprises people and Paul stays? Similar to what Denver tried to do with Melo. You have until the deadline before he walks for nothing. Why not see what your best value is for both sides? It's what any other NBA team would do. See what's out there, wait a few teams out and maybe increase his value for a team looking to take a risk.
Things like that is what makes the Howard situation 10x different from the Paul one and why Howard landing in NJ won't get vetoed. That's on the Magic owner ... a stupid owner. Owners give out max contracts to Joe Johnson, Chandler etc. Chris Paul's situation reflects the NBA as a whole, not one owner.
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My roommate is a huge Lakers fan. This is one of the best days in recent memory.
Re: Nets have emerged as favorites for Dwight; Howard expected to ask for deal there.
[QUOTE=PyrrhusX]Agreed.
What is so hard to understand in this scenario?
NBA does not own the Magic.
It's going to take a while before Laker fans (predominantly) get over the CP3 debacle, but there is a different situation in Orlando when compared to New Orleans.[/QUOTE]
what's so hard for us to understand? The league came out and said it had nothing to do with ownership! So what can't you understand? The block was made by Stern as the commissioner, not as Stern the owner (which he isn't). So tell me again why it matters that the Hornets are owned by the league if the league comes out and says ownership has nothing to do with it? Get it?
Here again... Stern... blocked.... this... trade... as... commissioner. Something he can do to ANY team if he feels necessary. So following this guideline if he's going to be consistent he MUST block the DH to Nets deal. Get it? Ownership has nothing to do with it.
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In all seriousness, this would be great for the league. Going into Brooklyn, having 2 real stars playing with one another would be amazing. And Deron Williams has already said publicly if the Nets get Dwight Howard he will definitely stay. With the money Prokhorov has, 2 superstars that compliment each other so perfectly, a new billion dollar arena, this could be incredible.
Re: Nets have emerged as favorites for Dwight; Howard expected to ask for deal there.
[QUOTE=oh the horror]WTF are you 12 years old dude? This isnt a pickup game at the local park bro, where we "let people win because they arent good enough"
This is a god damn business. And the business is TO WIN BASKETBALL GAMES, AND CHAMPIONSHIPS. The more you put into it as owners, the MORE you get out of it.
Wtf so ANY franchise that wins a lot should step aside, and "let someone else contend for a few friggin years?"
Come on now.
[I]"lolz We've been hoggin them rings...you take your turn now"[/I][/QUOTE]
If it's a business, then the owners should just said "hell no" to this deal. And good on them. They just lost 1/3 of a season in revenue to go back into a season where basically only two teams (the Lakers and Heat) have a real shot at the title for the next 4-5 years? Yeah I'd be pissed as an owner too.
Nixed deals happen all the time to a lot of deals in the NBA, most of the time, fans don't know about it.
Business is business, right? So deal with it.
Lakers can go build a good team like most everyone else (through the draft and years of proper development) instead of trying to get bailed out by desperate teams that have to give away their All-Stars.
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[QUOTE=ZHAKIDD532]In all seriousness, this would be great for the league. Going into Brooklyn, having 2 real stars playing with one another would be amazing. And Deron Williams has already said publicly if the Nets get Dwight Howard he will definitely stay. With the money Prokhorov has, 2 superstars that compliment each other so perfectly, a new billion dollar arena, this could be incredible.[/QUOTE]
This Makes sense on alot of Levels
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[QUOTE=monkeypox]what's so hard for us to understand? The league came out and said it had nothing to do with ownership! So what can't you understand? The block was made by Stern as the commissioner, not as Stern the owner (which he isn't). So tell me again why it matters that the Hornets are owned by the league if the league comes out and says ownership has nothing to do with it? Get it?
Here again... Stern... blocked.... this... trade... as... commissioner. Something he can do to ANY team if he feels necessary. So following this guideline if he's going to be consistent he MUST block the DH to Nets deal. Get it? Ownership has nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE]
nah...the owners balked and forced Stern to block the deal...I don't know where u r getting your info from...
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[QUOTE=monkeypox]what's so hard for us to understand? The league came out and said it had nothing to do with ownership! So what can't you understand? The block was made by Stern as the commissioner, not as Stern the owner (which he isn't). So tell me again why it matters that the Hornets are owned by the league if the league comes out and says ownership has nothing to do with it? Get it?
Here again... Stern... blocked.... this... trade... as... commissioner. Something he can do to ANY team if he feels necessary. So following this guideline if he's going to be consistent he MUST block the DH to Nets deal. Get it? Ownership has nothing to do with it.[/QUOTE]
lol if people believe this shit they'll believe anything there told by the media. Stern blocks CP3 to L.A, but not Gasol to L.A? Doesn't block LeBron\Bosh\Wade. Doesn't block all the stupid trades that have happened over the years. Just this one. L.A has had tremendous luck over the years(like come the Sac-Town series??) and is one of the best if not the BEST market\franchise out there. What does he gain? What does the NBA gain by doing this. Nothing. Stern if he wanted to could probably change the landscape of the NBA if he truly wanted to. However if you even use a hint of logic than you'd obviously see there's NOTHING to gain by doing what he did today.
However using logic it'd make a ridiculous amount of sense that the NBA owning the Hornets completely changed the landscape of how it's going to go down.
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[QUOTE=themurph]nah...the owners balked and forced Stern to block the deal...I don't know where u r getting your info from...[/QUOTE]
league released a statement saying otherwise
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[QUOTE=ZHAKIDD532]In all seriousness, this would be great for the league. Going into Brooklyn, having 2 real stars playing with one another would be amazing. And Deron Williams has already said publicly if the Nets get Dwight Howard he will definitely stay. With the money Prokhorov has, 2 superstars that compliment each other so perfectly, a new billion dollar arena, this could be incredible.[/QUOTE]
I honestly wouldnt mind him on the Nets. I'd love to have them actually be a good squad headed into BK.
I just want a damn jersey that has "BROOKLYN" on it.
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[QUOTE=oh the horror]WTF are you 12 years old dude? This isnt a pickup game at the local park bro, where we "let people win because they arent good enough"
This is a god damn business. And the business is TO WIN BASKETBALL GAMES, AND CHAMPIONSHIPS. The more you put into it as owners, the MORE you get out of it.
Wtf so ANY franchise that wins a lot should step aside, and "let someone else contend for a few friggin years?"
Come on now.
[I]"lolz We've been hoggin them rings...you take your turn now"[/I][/QUOTE]
Nooooo. No sir. You were nearly there:
The business is to make money. Lets never forget that. It often gets lost how much money turns this entire world. Sports are no different.
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[QUOTE=beeazy]You sir are a true Net fan, always a cynic until something is concrete :)[/QUOTE]
Heh, after braving the 12-70 season, the LeBron sweepstakes, the Melodrama & all that stuff, it makes no sense for me to get overly excited over a rumour. Melo was supposed to be a Net on about 5 separate occasions, so I'm certain this story has a lot more twists & turns on the way tomorrow.
I really, really, really hope it's true, though.
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[QUOTE=NuggetsFan][B]lol if people believe this shit they'll believe anything there told by the media[/B]. Stern blocks CP3 to L.A, but not Gasol to L.A? Doesn't block LeBron\Bosh\Wade. Doesn't block all the stupid trades that have happened over the years. Just this one. L.A has had tremendous luck over the years(like come the Sac-Town series??) and is one of the best if not the BEST market\franchise out there. What does he gain? What does the NBA gain by doing this. Nothing. Stern if he wanted to could probably change the landscape of the NBA if he truly wanted to. However if you even use a hint of logic than you'd obviously see there's NOTHING to gain by doing what he did today.
However using logic it'd make a ridiculous amount of sense that the NBA owning the Hornets completely changed the landscape of how it's going to go down.[/QUOTE]
well in all fairness the nba did release an official statement saying Stern veto'd the trade and the owners had no input whatsoever.
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Dwight. :pimp:
Pave your own legacy. **** the Lakers.
