Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
[QUOTE=pmj]I've been on this trade forever for the Heat, and it was reportedly offered by Houston to the Heat. If we lose again, I'd definetly do it:
Bosh/Cole (or any other role player really, I used him b/c he's cheap)
for
Lowry/Scola/Dalembert
[url]http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=d4huy9c[/url][/QUOTE]
Done deal if you throw in a late 1st.
Rather have 28 years old Bosh over 31 years old Gasol
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
[QUOTE=ImmortalNemesis]Didn't read the article but so I don't know the context but I'll comment anyway. Is sad that Lowry is acting this way. I thought he was better than Brooks. Brooks reacted the same way when Lowry took his starting spot. I had a small hope Houston could keep both PGs, guess that's over now. Houston will trade Lowry and Martin if they can. I wouldn't surprise me at all if Lowry, Martin, and Scola are gone by the start of the season.
Lowry used to be one of my favorite players, sad that it has to end this way.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if there is a deal that could be worked out between Houston and Chicago? Maybe something along the lines of Houston getting Asik, Boozer, Player ?, Player ? (or the Bobcats pick) and Chicago gets either Courtney Lee/Martin and Lowry, Scola?
Can anyone think of anything realistic that is right for both teams?
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
[QUOTE=KelticForce1349]I wonder if there is a deal that could be worked out between Houston and Chicago? Maybe something along the lines of Houston getting Asik, Boozer, Player ?, Player ? (or the Bobcats pick) and Chicago gets either Courtney Lee/Martin and Lowry, Scola?
Can anyone think of anything realistic that is right for both teams?[/QUOTE]
Can't see the Rockets accepting this trade, they'd be stupid if they would do this.
Asik is a nice player but this trade would be stupid, the Rockets already have 2 centers in Camby and Dalembert. Boozer is soon to be 31 years old and obviously not in his prime anymore and not a big upgrade or upgrade at all over Scola.
Asik and Boozer as the main guys won't do it in a trade where Chicago wants Lowry, Scola and Martin/Lee..
Sorry.
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
[QUOTE=millwad]Can't see the Rockets accepting this trade, they'd be stupid if they would do this.
Asik is a nice player but this trade would be stupid, the Rockets already have 2 centers in Camby and Dalembert. Boozer is soon to be 31 years old and obviously not in his prime anymore and not a big upgrade or upgrade at all over Scola.
Asik and Boozer as the main guys won't do it in a trade where Chicago wants Lowry, Scola and Martin/Lee..
Sorry.[/QUOTE]
Ok. I see your point...unfortunately. I guess the Bulls would need to offer Deng, something they would never actually do.
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
[QUOTE=BallsOut]Rockets send: Lowry, Martin
Rockets receive: Gasol, Blake
Wolves send: Williams, Beasley
Wolves receive: Martin
Lakers send: Gasol, Blake
Receive: Lowry, Williams, Beasley
3-team trade that benefits all teams. :applause:[/QUOTE]
How do the Wolves get better from this?
No way we would do that awful trade.
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
[QUOTE=B-Easy8]How do the Wolves get better from this?
No way we would do that awful trade.[/QUOTE]
Lakers don't get any better either. They add two knuckleheads onto a team that already struggles with the team concept.
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
I can see Lakers opening up talks with Rockets about Gasol-Lowry (being the main pieces in a deal). If the relationship with McHale and Lowry is sour, then its obvious Dragic who really blossomed is the guy they will lock up.
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
[QUOTE=blacknapalm]idk. i feel dragic has better court vision, is the better ball handler and is the more consistent shooter. those are all things LA needs. they don't need a bunch of scoring from the PG position...at least for the next couple seasons. i mean, depends what happens in the offseason of course. i'm almost certain dragic is going to command too much money for LA to go after him though. i think LA will stick with sessions for at least one more season and see how he does. it's not like LA is known for making sudden PG changes, lol[/QUOTE]
I think Lowry has the better court vision. He spreads the floor for everyone, creates transition, really makes other players better. He has unlimited range and is a better shooter, if he calms his shots down. But I agree that Dragic is a more consistent shooter. But Dragic is more a scorer than Lowry is.
The thing I'm most impressed with, with Kyle Lowry, is how he can affect the game in such different ways. He can give you 35 one night, but he might give you 2 the next...and rack up 15 assists, and really dominate the game. I think he's pretty special.
Dragic will make more than Lowry. And Houston is likely to stick with Dragic. I always thought that. McHale clearly prefers Dragic. McHale limited Lowry's game a lot during the season. Also, Lowry has the best contract in the NBA. And he's great. He would command a lot in a trade. And trading him is better than losing Dragic for nothing.
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
[QUOTE=Whoah10115]I think Lowry has the better court vision. He spreads the floor for everyone, creates transition, really makes other players better. He has unlimited range and is a better shooter, if he calms his shots down. But I agree that Dragic is a more consistent shooter. But Dragic is more a scorer than Lowry is.
The thing I'm most impressed with, with Kyle Lowry, is how he can affect the game in such different ways. He can give you 35 one night, but he might give you 2 the next...and rack up 15 assists, and really dominate the game. I think he's pretty special.
Dragic will make more than Lowry. And Houston is likely to stick with Dragic. I always thought that. McHale clearly prefers Dragic. McHale limited Lowry's game a lot during the season. Also, Lowry has the best contract in the NBA. And he's great. He would command a lot in a trade. And trading him is better than losing Dragic for nothing.[/QUOTE]
Lowry is more balanced at this point due to his defense but offensively Dragic is better in every way to me. Better playmaker, better pure shooter, better at running the team on the court. It sounds so cliche because Nash mentored him and he's a white guy but Dragic truly looks like Nash 2.0 a lot of times. The way he goes right up the gut of the defense and makes flashy passes out of traffic to open shooters is beautiful.
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
[QUOTE=GOBB]I can see Lakers opening up talks with Rockets about Gasol-Lowry (being the main pieces in a deal). If the relationship with McHale and Lowry is sour, then its obvious Dragic who really blossomed is the guy they will lock up.[/QUOTE]
This is a no-brainer and it might have got done at the deadline if Lowry wasn't hurt
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
Right now Lowry might have more trade value than Gasol, and there's a huge disparity in their contracts. I don't know how is LA going to compensate since giving Lowry/Scola for Gasol seems like giving away too much for the Rockets.
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
Dragic doesn't seem like the most likeable guy.
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
[quote=Haymaker]Right now Lowry might have more trade value than Gasol, and there's a huge disparity in their contracts. I don't know how is LA going to compensate since giving Lowry/Scola for Gasol seems like giving away too much for the Rockets.[/quote]Even with gasol's declining value I think he is worth more than lowry but I also agree the lowry/scola would be too much to give up for Pau. Seems to me that a 3rd team is needed if this deal is at all possible.
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
[QUOTE=bdreason]Dragic doesn't seem like the most likeable guy.[/QUOTE]
No, the difference between Scola and Gasol is not a Kyle Lowry on a great contract..
Re: Kyle Lowry: It's Either Me Or Dragic.
Lol at Laker fans hyping Gasol as a top 3 PF after crucifying him online just a week ago