Parents Track Down Daughter's Pimp and Kill Him

[QUOTE=tpols]Pimping kids? He was pimping women.. who happened to be 17. Half the hookers out there are very young. It's not at all the same as someone who got caught in a child trafficking business.. not even close. There's a huge fine line you're blurring here.

And if he ever went to jail it probably would've been for weapons possesion or some type of assault/violent act. He wasnt in the mold of some sick antisocial wierdo pervert.. pretty much the opposite.[/QUOTE]

Not sure where you are from but 17 is a kid bro. I know from what you said before that you're 19 or something like that but when you get to the age where you start thinking kids, your perspective will change.

To be a pimp you have to have ****ed up morals and anti social issues among other things. Not sure why you're defending pimping of minors :roll: . Tells me a lot about you.

[QUOTE=SCY]Well since you have that mentality, I'm going to take the leap that you've committed a few vigilante murders. Who needs facts? I'm coming right over to shoot you dead on the spot.[/QUOTE]

This doesn't even make sense. What I'm deducing is LIKELY and PROBABLE based on FBI statistics and personal experiences. You assuming I've murdered because I said I'm glad he's dead or that if I was the parent I'd do the same isn't even a good comparison :no: .

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Not sure where you are from but 17 is a kid bro. I know from what you said before that you're 19 or something like that but when you get to the age where you start thinking kids, your perspective will change.

To be a pimp you have to have ****ed up morals and anti social issues among other things. Not sure why you're defending pimping of minors :roll: . Tells me a lot about you.[/QUOTE]
How am I defending pimping?:oldlol: All I was refuting was that pimps get treated like child molestors in jail. Thats a joke. There's no pimping code that says anything about minors. ALL pimps do that.. there isnt some pimping convention run out of nevada that regulates ages for pimping recruitment. Thats how it is.. and of course it's wrong and totally disgusting. But its not in the category you're putting it in that prison gangs specifically target.

In the media it is wide spread what blacks think about pimping. They fvcking glorify it.. which makes what you said completely backwards.

[QUOTE] Apparently being intimidated into something is now considered free will .[/QUOTE]

Give me one speck of evidence that it happened.

There are hundreds of millions of women who dont suddenly start running with a pimp. They are doing something to prevent it it seems...

And shes 17?

A 17 year old is responsible enough for their own actions to not assume they got forced to have sex for money when all we know is that they had sex for money. Plenty of women are doing it without being forced.


[QUOTE]So when mobsters would go and extort shop owners for "protection money" it's free will of the shop owners! Nevermind the fact that if they don't do it... they will get their shop torched, blown up or shot up.[/QUOTE]

Yea...because millions of shop owners extort themselves....

These women have free will. dude didnt walk into her parents house and make her **** for money.

Something happened between 10 year old with the world ahead of her and being a whore at 17. And you have no evidence that that pimp made whatever it was happen. how many women with sexual jobs claim they were molested?

These women arent hit with the Men in Black mind wiping beam and told to be whores.

Are some idiotic/weak willed women manipulated? Goes without saying.

Are a lot of women getting pimped by choice because they rather have the protection/setup and doing it on their own is more dangerous?

Can many simply...stop? And choose not to for reasons ranging from not wanting to to needing the money for a drug addiction?

Goes without saying. And its not like its my opinion. There are documentaries with them saying the same thing.

Im not saying a guy deserves to die when I have no information aside from a girls parents believing he somehow talked her into it. Thats what any parent would tell themselves......

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]This doesn't even make sense. What I'm deducing is LIKELY and PROBABLY based on FBI statistics and personal experiences. You assuming I've murdered because I said I'm glad he's dead or that if I was the parent I'd do the same isn't even a good comparison :no: .[/QUOTE]

You're missing the point. Your FBI statistics and personal experiences should not be deciding who has the right to live or die, any more than my baseless assumptions should. We take away a person's freedom after proving his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, not when you or a vigilante deduces that it's OK to do so. We have a legal system in this country. If you're not happy with the way it's working, do what you can in your power to fix it; and don't complain that it's not easy as picking up a gun.

Just realized my avy+user title is extremely ironic for this post.

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Depends on the circumstance. In this case yes. Murdering one criminal has a good impact on the world with very little consequence. Allowing that pimp to live.. and run a ring of 15+ prostitutes which spread disease, unwanted children (accidental pregnancy) among other things such as the pimps beating and essentially enslaving multiple women in many situations?

I'd say 1 death to save the lives of many is a choice you should make 10 times out of 10.[/QUOTE]
But 90% of those girls will be reassigned. It wont change anything. That girl now has NO parental support and is likely traumatized by this.. what the fuvck do you think shes going to do now? Go to med school?.:roll:

If this guy were to be tried in court and convicted of this crime he wouldn't get the death penalty. If you were to take a poll from everyone in the United States on what his punishment should be, less than 1% would opt for execution.

what is there to argue about? parents were wrong for killing the pimp. pretty simp. if you cant understand why then your pretty simp.

That pimp sounds like a scumbag. When your a scumbag expect crazy shit to happen. Not a tear will shed from my eye to say the least..

[QUOTE=tpols]But 90% of those girls will be reassigned. It wont change anything. That girl now has NO parental support and is likely traumatized by this.. what the fuvck do you think shes going to do now? Go to med school?.:roll:

If this guy were to be tried in court and convicted of this crime he wouldn't get the death penalty. If you were to take a poll from everyone in the United States on what his punishment should be, less than 1% would opt for execution.[/QUOTE]

I understand your point but as I said earlier... if you have that mentality there may not be law enforcement at all :confusedshrug: . Arrest one pimp, another rises... okay? I get that. Doesn't mean that you can't make a difference by removing criminals. I don't frankly care if it's by death or prison. In California our prisons are already overflowing passed capacity and tax payers pay for these POS ****ers to eat 3 meals a day, sleep comfortably and do activities?

**** that. They deserve to kiss the dirt.

[QUOTE=SCY]You're missing the point. Your FBI statistics and personal experiences should not be deciding who has the right to live or die, any more than my baseless assumptions should. We take away a person's freedom after proving his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, not when you or a vigilante deduces that it's OK to do so. We have a legal system in this country. If you're not happy with the way it's working, do what you can in your power to fix it; and don't complain that it's not easy as picking up a gun.

Just realized my avy+user title is extremely ironic for this post.[/QUOTE]

My post above applies to this. I'm unhappy with the fact that our taxes go to feeding, clothing, bathing, and essentially giving these POS prisoners a comfortable life. I know friends that were actually INTENTIONALLY returning to prison. That goes to show you that this guy as well as similar scumbags, deserve MUCH worse.

Pimps are scumbags. Honestly, we are better off without them. Is it wrong? Sure.

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]I understand your point but as I said earlier... if you have that mentality there may not be law enforcement at all :confusedshrug: . Arrest one pimp, another rises... okay? I get that. Doesn't mean that you can't make a difference by removing criminals. I don't frankly care if it's by death or prison. In California our prisons are already overflowing passed capacity and tax payers pay for these POS ****ers to eat 3 meals a day, sleep comfortably and do activities?

**** that. They deserve to kiss the dirt.[/QUOTE]

You think your CJ degree would have covered that all crimes aren't equal. There will always be a demand for drugs, hookers, etc., thus there will always be a line of drug dealers, hookers and pimps to supply them. This is obviously not true of all crimes. Not like every time you arrest a drunk driver off a particular street, there will be a new drunk driver on that street to supply the demand for drunk drivers.

Anyway, I don't why I'm bothering since your stances are completely radical, and if you were to act on them you would be acting much further outside the law than this pimp was.

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]My post above applies to this. I'm unhappy with the fact that our taxes go to feeding, clothing, bathing, and essentially giving these POS prisoners a comfortable life. I know friends that were actually INTENTIONALLY returning to prison. That goes to show you that this guy as well as similar scumbags, deserve MUCH worse.[/QUOTE]

So your problem is really the punishment stage, not the trial stage. The thing is, just because you don't care for the punishment doesn't give you the right to take away a person's right to be judged by a jury of their peers. You should try reading that Constitution thing sometime, and perhaps work to push your lawmakers to adopt tougher penalties for crimes.

[QUOTE=SCY]You think your CJ degree would have covered that all crimes aren't equal. There will always be a demand for drugs, hookers, etc., thus there will always be a line of drug dealers, hookers and pimps to supply them. This is obviously not true of all crimes. Not like every time you arrest a drunk driver off a particular street, there will be a new drunk driver on that street to supply the demand for drunk drivers.

Anyway, I don't why I'm bothering since your stances are completely radical, and if you were to act on them you would be acting much further outside the law than this pimp was.[/QUOTE]

I didn't finish man. I just took a year of CJ and realized I didn't want to do Law Enforcement even though I trained for it and everything. I get what you're saying that drug/prostitution related crimes are never ending. Taking one pimp off the street MAY not have a big impact. There is a chance though right? A chance that maybe at least one or two women will get a second chance at a life because of this? If that's the case then why isn't it worth it?

Maybe I'm being too heavy handed in my opinions or having too much of a Utopian viewpoint of life... but I think in order to make a difference we first have to have an often times overly optimistic attitude and believe.

[QUOTE=SCREWstonRockets]Pimps are scumbags. Honestly, we are better off without them. Is it wrong? Sure.[/QUOTE]

This.