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[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Ray Allen 3 pointer (LeBron James assists) with 18.2 seconds left. 109-108 Win Heat vs Cavs.
Ray Allen takes the lead in GW shots. LeBron James takes the lead in GW assists.[/QUOTE]
Wasn't the traditional definition of a gamewinning shot, the actual last shot in a game?
Its not strictly a game winning shot. Its just as important, since we don't give up the lead from there, but a free throw was made after.
Game winning block Wade? :confusedshrug:
EDIT: To late, what Legends said
[QUOTE=plowking]Wasn't the traditional definition of a gamewinning shot, the actual last shot in a game?
Its not strictly a game winning shot. Its just as important, since we don't give up the lead from there, but a free throw was made after.[/QUOTE]
I've never heard or read that actually being the traditional definition, but I wouldn't disagree with that. I've read that if it's 24 seconds or less, it's game winning, but I also consider shots made before that timeline (and if a team does not tie) as just as much a game winner.
The fact that the Cavs did not tie the game and the Allen made the shot at the 18.2 second mark makes it more than a valid game winner.
The free throw Allen made just adds to the lead itself. It doesn't take away that he also made a game winner and the Cavs didn't tie.
[QUOTE=Faptastrophe]Game winning block Wade? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
I've considered adding defensive plays to the list, but I don't know how many of them have been out there this season so far.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I've considered adding defensive plays to the list, but I don't know how many of them have been out there this season so far.[/QUOTE]
Yea, that is just to rare...
Plus you can have a gamewinning rebound, steal, forced turnover, shut down defense etc... :P
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]
I've considered adding defensive plays to the list, but I don't know how many of them have been out there this season so far.[/QUOTE]
That's be hard to keep track off. Because steals, rebounds and defensive stops happen all the time so you don't know what.
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]I've never heard or read that actually being the traditional definition, but I wouldn't disagree with that. I've read that if it's 24 seconds or less, it's game winning, but I also consider shots made before that timeline (and if a team does not tie) as just as much a game winner.
The fact that the Cavs did not tie the game and the Allen made the shot at the 18.2 second mark makes it more than a valid game winner.
The free throw Allen made just adds to the lead itself. It doesn't take away that he also made a game winner and the Cavs didn't tie.
[B]I've considered adding defensive plays to the list, but I don't know how many of them have been out there this season so far.[/B][/QUOTE]
Just remember the clutch block by wade in your heart and tell your grand kids about the greatest shot blocking guard to play the game.
[QUOTE=pauk]Yea, that is just to rare...
Plus you can have a gamewinning rebound, steal, forced turnover, shut down defense etc... :P[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EnoughSaid]That's be hard to keep track off. Because steals, rebounds and defensive stops happen all the time so you don't know what.[/QUOTE]
True.
There's just so many scenarios. I wish it were possible to keep track off.
[QUOTE=AlonzoGOAT]Just remember the clutch block by wade in your heart and tell your grand kids about the greatest shot blocking guard to play the game.[/QUOTE]
Will do.
:cheers:
Ekpe Udoh i guess made a gamewinning layup with 57 seconds left since nobody scored afterwards (Doron Lamb assists); 93-92 Bucks Win vs Bulls
you havent updated rays shot yet on the list :D
[QUOTE=Boston C's]you havent updated rays shot yet on the list :D[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I just added it.
Been slacking.
George Hill now moves into a tie with Ray Allen for Game Winners this season, with 2.
Guess what happened again? :D
Nov 29: Ray Allen makes 24-foot three point jumper (LeBron James assists) with 22.6 seconds left; 105-100 Heat Win vs Spurs
I think it should probably count as a gamewinning shot because Ray made it 101-98 afterall... Spurs scored only 100 pts, thats 101-100.... thats the shot that won the game... those Lebron/Ray/Wade FTs later was just additional pts because of the fouls Spurs were forced to take...
[QUOTE=pauk]Guess what happened again? :D
Nov 29: Ray Allen makes 24-foot three point jumper (LeBron James assists) with 22.6 seconds left; 105-100 Heat Win vs Spurs
I think it should probably count as a gamewinning shot because Ray made it 101-98 afterall... Spurs scored only 100 pts, thats 101-100.... thats the shot that won the game... those Lebron/Ray/Wade FTs later was just additional pts because of the fouls Spurs were forced to take...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=pauk]Guess what happened again? :D
Nov 29: Ray Allen makes 24-foot three point jumper (LeBron James assists) with 22.6 seconds left; 105-100 Heat Win vs Spurs
I think it should probably count as a gamewinning shot because Ray made it 101-98 afterall... Spurs scored only 100 pts, thats 101-100.... thats the shot that won the game... those Lebron/Ray/Wade FTs later was just additional pts because of the fouls Spurs were forced to take...[/QUOTE]
While I was thinking "Deja vu ?", unfortunately I can't add it as a "game winner".
Reasoning ? The Spurs did end up tying the game at 100-100. However, I think I can add it as a "Take the lead with under 24 seconds rule". :cheers:
Ray Allen has been dangerous in the big moments and LeBron's looking for him. :applause: