Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
[QUOTE=Burgz V2]why deal with hypotheticals? There is no way of knowing. The only reason anyone would create a hypothetical situation to put a player in would be to escape the current reality
Kobe is not an efficient player. Reality.
Kobe is a high volume scorer. Reality.
Kobe shooting 50%? Keep dreaming.
I'm sorry but efficiency didn't ALL OF A SUDDEN matter in the NBA, it has always mattered. I don't need Hollinger to come up with the above conclusions. You take a lot of bad shots, that makes you INEFFICIENT. PERIOD.[/QUOTE]
Jordan's TS% is 1.4 higher than Kobe's. Jordan's PPS is 0.015 higher than Kobe's.
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Jordan's TS% is 1.4 higher than Kobe's. Jordan's PPS is 0.015 higher than Kobe's.[/QUOTE]
What about his FG/eFG% and Player Efficiency Rating?
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
Insecure Kobe homers hating what a surprise :lol Yes LeBron and Wade are sacrificing games because they wanna be efficient:lol They're not both champions and all time greats or anything.
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]What about his FG/eFG% and Player Efficiency Rating?[/QUOTE]
Michael Jordan [B]FG% 49.7%[/B] [B] eFG% 51%[/B] [B] PER: 28[/B]
Kobe Bryant [B]FG% 45.5%[/B] [B] eFG% 49%[/B] [B]PER: 24[/B]
Those are Kobe's FG% eFG% & PER when compared to the best basketball player of all time.
Not bad at all :confusedshrug:
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]What about his FG/eFG% and Player Efficiency Rating?[/QUOTE]
2.2 eFG% difference.
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
And now we criticize players for practicing good shot selection.:rolleyes:
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]Michael Jordan [B]FG% 49.7%[/B] [B] eFG% 51%[/B] [B] PER: 28[/B]
Kobe Bryant [B]FG% 45.5%[/B] [B] eFG% 49%[/B] [B]PER: 24[/B]
Those are Kobe's FG% eFG% & PER when compared to the best basketball player of all time.
Not bad at all :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Not bad at all, I just wanted a more comprehensive comparison.
:cheers:
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
Well, it's not like they'll run out the shot clock if they don't have a good shot to take and it's not like they aren't winning more games then most other teams. It would be one thing if they were losing and doing this like they probably would've when they were playing without each other but that's not the case.
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]Michael Jordan [B]FG% 49.7%[/B] [B] eFG% 51%[/B] [B] PER: 28[/B]
Kobe Bryant [B]FG% 45.5%[/B] [B] eFG% 49%[/B] [B]PER: 24[/B]
Those are Kobe's FG% eFG% & PER when compared to the best basketball player of all time.
Not bad at all :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
did you taken into consideration. No Defensive era. zone defense which is all a joke compared to physical D MJ played against in the '90s.
Kobe wont cross 42%FG shooting had he played in late '80s early to mid '90s.
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
[QUOTE=gengiskhan]did you taken into consideration. No Defensive era. zone defense which is all a joke compared to physical D MJ played against in the '90s.
Kobe wont cross 42%FG shooting had he played in late '80s early to mid '90s.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm no left hand drexler was able to shoot 500% in the 80s and Kobe wouldn't be able to?
:rolleyes: u ****ing MJ stans sicken me. u really do
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
Why are people making a big deal out of this? :confusedshrug:
Players and teams set goals and thresholds for themselves for seasons/series. Like I know Mike Woodson set the goal for the Knicks' turnovers cut off for games at 13- every time they go over, the team runs sprints in the next practice. The Knicks have gone from the second to worst TO team last year (16 TPG) to the best this season(11 TPG). Wade and Lebron have just done the same for their personal performance, they've set high standards for their play. We've seen/are seeing the results of them striving to live up to a higher standard.
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
[QUOTE=gengiskhan]did you taken into consideration. No Defensive era. zone defense which is all a joke compared to physical D MJ played against in the '90s.
Kobe wont cross 42%FG shooting had he played in late '80s early to mid '90s.[/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll:
The 00's decade had a lower TS%, eFG%, PPS, and O/DRtg than the 80's and 90's decades.
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Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
[QUOTE=STATUTORY]:facepalm no left hand drexler was able to shoot 500% in the 80s and Kobe wouldn't be able to?
:rolleyes: u ****ing MJ stans sicken me. u really do[/QUOTE]
Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Dwyane Wade are currently shooting 50% right now. All have done it at least twice and counting (this is Lebron's 4th consecutive year shooting above the threshold). So forget the 80s, why hasn't Kobe done it even once in his era when the best player on the planet is currently on year 4 of shooting over 50%?
Let me guess, it's the era... the hyper athletes and advanced 'zone' defense that only Bean sees on a nightly basis? :oldlol:
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
[QUOTE=STATUTORY]:facepalm no left hand drexler was able to shoot 500% in the 80s and Kobe wouldn't be able to?
:rolleyes: u ****ing MJ stans sicken me. u really do[/QUOTE]
F*** left hand !!!
i[B]f you are 1.5 inches taller, bigger, extra long wing span, bigger hands & palm the ball, much more stamina, strength & more conditioned than Kobe.
Drexler could put the ball on the floor & drive through physical D & still wont be pulling on his shorts & resting on his knees in OT of any game like kobe giving MJ impersonations from the beginning of the 2nd quarter.[/B]
Drexler did exactly that.
Imagine how many 3-pts FGA kobe will jock in '90s.
41% FG is what Kobe will be averaging . I was being lenient with 42%FG.
Know your NBA before presenting infantile argument. :coleman:
Re: wade with a revealing quote about the changing mentality of NBA players
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]:roll: :roll: :roll:
The 00's decade had a lower TS%, eFG%, PPS, and O/DRtg than the 80's and 90's decades.[/QUOTE]
Too many dumb HSers drafted off "potential" hoping they'd be the next KG / Kobe / T-Mac.
Deliberate drop in possessions to slow the game down.
Drop off in pushing the ball into transition.
Era of the small combo guard.
Loss of team bball IQ, and skills.
Weak era for shooters, passers, and defined offensive roles.
That didn't play a part in anything ...