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Well I wasn't really trying to say Kyrie was the wrong pick just sticking up for someone in his class that's done better from an achievement perspective. The point remains he hasn't done shit, and neither has the organization, after several top picks in a historically terrible conference.
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]Well I wasn't really trying to say Kyrie was the wrong pick just sticking up for someone in his class that's done better from an achievement perspective. The point remains he hasn't done shit, and neither has the organization, after several top picks in a historically terrible conference.[/QUOTE]
Walker hasn't done anything better than Irving individually since they were drafted. I don't remember Walker winning Rookie of the Year. I don't remember Walker winning the three point contest. I don't remember Walker making an All-Star team. I don't remember Walker winning All-Star MVP. The Bobcats made the playoffs, that's it. Jordan dumped $13.5 million a year on Jefferson to start making the playoffs right f*cking NOW. You know the highest signed free agent since Irving was drafted? Jarrett Jack at $6.3 million.
[QUOTE=Meticode]Walker hasn't done anything better than Irving individually since they were drafted. I don't remember Walker winning Rookie of the Year. I don't remember Walker winning MVP of the Rookie/Sophomore game. I don't remember Walker making an All-Star team. I don't remember Walker winning All-Star MVP. The Bobcats made the playoffs, that's it. Jordan dumped $13.5 million a year on Jefferson to start making the playoffs right f*cking NOW. You know the highest signed free agent since Irving was drafted? Jarrett Jack at $6.3 million.[/QUOTE]
I remember Walker making the playoffs tough guy. I'll take that over MVP at the AND1 All Star Rookie Game.
Was it not the Cavs plans to make the playoffs this year? Did they not trade for Deng, hire their old proven coach, and sign Bynum? Kyrie could not get it done. He's a solid offensive player who doesn't do shit on defense, isn't a leader, and doesn't make players around him better.
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]I remember Walker making the playoffs tough guy. I'll take that over MVP at the AND1 All Star Rookie Game.
Was it not the Cavs plans to make the playoffs this year? Did they not trade for Deng, hire their old proven coach, and sign Bynum? Kyrie could not get it done. He's a solid offensive player who doesn't do shit on defense, isn't a leader, and doesn't make players around him better.[/QUOTE]
The Cavs missed the playoffs and it was their goal to make it I agree. Where did that put the Bobcats and Cavs? Cavs get the #1 pick. Bobcats got swept.
I would offer the pick to the Pistons for Drummond straight up.
[QUOTE=miles berg]I would offer the pick to the Pistons for Drummond straight up.[/QUOTE]
Why?
Was never truly a fan of Kyrie, but at this point I wish him the best of luck just to shut some of the idiots up.
As a fan of the team with the 2nd pick, I hope they take Wiggins. But in all objectivity, Cleveland is going to be a great team down the road with Embiid. Kyrie, Dion, and Embiid is a terrific young core, and having other young pieces like Tristan, Karasev, Zeller, Delladova, etc. as a developing supporting cast is very promising. I think if they really hit out of the park with this next coaching selection, they could be an elite team in 4-5 years.
By that time hopefully Kyrie has matured as a point guard, Dion and him build some better chemistry in the backcourt, all the young supporting players grow into their roles, and Embiid has developed into a legitimate 2-way force in the paint. This team in 5 years has the potential to bust completely and break up....or be contending with one of the best if not THE best center in the game, a top 5 PG, and a top 5 SG.
The Lebron curse. Cleveland will never succeed until Lebron retires/rejoins the cavs.
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin]The Lebron curse. Cleveland will never succeed until Lebron retires/rejoins the cavs.[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm, not really LeBron related, but the whole city of Cleveland was having a 50+ year drought of not succeeding before he was drafted. :lol
They don't have a hard choice to make. They got 3 players that should all have an immediate impact
[QUOTE=miles berg]I would offer the pick to the Pistons for Drummond straight up.[/QUOTE]
Neither team makes that trade.
Well I'm pretty certain Kyrie can't get out of the lottery with a slew of top picks and a coach who's been to the Finals. So that's pretty solid.
I don
After the draft,the cavs should go after every vet in the league to mentor all theses youngs kids
This year the team was too young with only Jaret Jack, Deng and Varejao as 27+ years old and they are the not guys who won the most rings in the league...
[QUOTE=Springsteen]NO NO NO NO NO
you already have kyrie dion and [B]tristan thompson [/B][B]to be major ball handlers/jack up shots[/B] and you want to add ANOTHER? GET A FREAKING POST PRESENCE FOR KYRIE TO PASS TO YOU FOOLS[/QUOTE]
:biggums:
[QUOTE=Jailblazers7]They are either going to take Embiid or trade the pick.[/QUOTE]
what makes you say so? they have a gaping hole at the 3. their defense was awful last year, wiggins could help that big time, and parker could provide low post scoring and 3 point shooting, two things the cavs desperately lacked last year
any of the top 3 would really help us, but embiid, so long as hes healthy, is the clear number 1 imo
[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]Chad Ford ✔ @chadfordinsider
Just spoke with Embiid. [B]Told me his back is 100 percent[/B]. Been working out hard for last 3 weeks.
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i love embiid, but come on, what else is he going to say?
[QUOTE=Le Shaqtus]Never been fond of Irving to be honest, and he hasn't really made their situation any different which is what a #1 pick is supposed to do.[/QUOTE]
so who would you have picked instead?