[QUOTE=Big#50]Oh HI april 2013 alt.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
****ing idiot
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[QUOTE=Big#50]Oh HI april 2013 alt.:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
****ing idiot
Lets use our trusty friend PER in this scenario
[B]Career Playoff Player Efficiency Rating[/B]
[B]1. Michael Jordan* 28.60[/B]
2. George Mikan* 28.51
[B]3. LeBron James 27.70[/B]
4. Shaquille O'Neal 26.13
5. Hakeem Olajuwon* 25.69
6. Chris Paul 25.04
7. Tim Duncan 24.59
8. Kevin Durant 24.35
9. Charles Barkley* 24.18
10. Dirk Nowitzki 24.17
11. Dwight Howard 23.74
12. Tracy McGrady 23.40
13. Dolph Schayes* 23.29
14. Jerry West* 23.06
15. David Robinson* 23.02
16. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 23.01
17. Magic Johnson* 22.95
18. Russell Westbrook 22.75
19. Wilt Chamberlain* 22.75
20. Dwyane Wade 22.70
21. Bob Pettit* 22.59
22. Amar'e Stoudemire 22.44
[B]23. Kobe Bryant 22.40[/B]
Damn, this was even worse than I thought for Bean :facepalm
[QUOTE=ImKobe]****ing idiot[/QUOTE]
LOL angry online. You must suck IRL.
[QUOTE=dubeta]Lets use our trusty friend PER in this scenario
[B]Career Playoff Player Efficiency Rating[/B]
[B]1. Michael Jordan* 28.60[/B]
2. George Mikan* 28.51
[B]3. LeBron James 27.70[/B]
4. Shaquille O'Neal 26.13
5. Hakeem Olajuwon* 25.69
6. Chris Paul 25.04
7. Tim Duncan 24.59
8. Kevin Durant 24.35
9. Charles Barkley* 24.18
10. Dirk Nowitzki 24.17
11. Dwight Howard 23.74
12. Tracy McGrady 23.40
13. Dolph Schayes* 23.29
14. Jerry West* 23.06
15. David Robinson* 23.02
16. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 23.01
17. Magic Johnson* 22.95
18. Russell Westbrook 22.75
19. Wilt Chamberlain* 22.75
20. Dwyane Wade 22.70
21. Bob Pettit* 22.59
22. Amar'e Stoudemire 22.44
[B]23. Kobe Bryant 22.40[/B]
Damn, this was even worse than I thought for Bean :facepalm[/QUOTE]
So you truly believe CP3 and McGrady, two players who have never even played in the CONFERENCE Finals, are 2 of the 12 greatest playoff performers of all time?
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]So you truly believe CP3 and McGrady, two players who have never even played in the CONFERENCE Finals, are 2 of the 12 greatest playoff performers of all time?[/QUOTE]
any ranking which has LeBron and Jordan as the 2 best ( in the modern era) seems extremely reliable
For CP3 and Tmac being one of the top 12 playoff performers? sure i dont see why not. After the usual Jordan, LeBron, Shaq etc the rest is pretty debatable on playoff performers, you can make a case for many players depending on how you value efficiency, playmaking, scoring, team success in playoffs etc
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]So you truly believe CP3 and McGrady, two players who have never even played in the CONFERENCE Finals, are 2 of the 12 greatest playoff performers of all time?[/QUOTE]
TMac and CP3 were let down by their teammates. Kobe on the other hand, was carried by his teammates.
Do you seriously think TMac wouldn't win at least 5 rings if he played with prime Shaq and prime Gasol?
[QUOTE=ImKobe]2008 ECSF against Boston, explain your theory, please :roll:
2-18 10 TOV game followed by a 6-24 7 TOV game :roll: :roll: Nikka didn't shoot over 40% until the 4th game of the damn series. FOH
And you don't get what "struggling" with FG% is, shooting 4-5% below your season average against the best defensive teams is not struggling. Lebron's % dipped as well going up against the same teams Kobe faced
You still have to take into account that Kobe's overall efficiency for the Playoffs pretty much stays the same or in many cases, actually rises, despite playing more minutes and coming off a long ass regular season. I don't get the hate.
25/6/5 for 3 rings with Shaq (28/7/5 for the latter two titles with him)
30/6/6/2 for 3 straight Finals runs and 2 FMVPs with Gasol
those are elite numbers, yet people ac like he's some kind of a scrub that rode the bench and had no impact on games :kobe:[/QUOTE]
My theory?? Thats your evidence? Vs 2008 Boston?? Its a close one. But LeBron >>>> Kobe in 09 and 10 comparison...
2008 Vs Celtics:
LeBron: 26.7/6.4/7.6 on .480TS%
Kobe: 25.7/4.7/5.0 on .505TS%
2009 Vs Orlando:
LeBron: 38.5/8.3/8.0 on .591TS%
Kobe: 32.4/5.6/7.4 on .525TS%
2010 Vs Boston:
LeBron ("Quit" series) : 26.8/9.3/7.2 on .556TS%
Kobe : 28.6/8.0/3.9 on .528TS%
[QUOTE=ImKobe]
You still have to take into account that Kobe's overall efficiency for the Playoffs pretty much stays the same or in many cases, actually rises...
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&@#$. You were trolling...
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[b]Pau Gasol: The Real Finals MVP[/b]
[url]http://www.behindthebasket.com/btb/2010/6/19/pau-gasol-the-real-finals-mvp.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/4e9Jgjq.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332][b]Pau Gasol: The Real Finals MVP[/b]
[url]http://www.behindthebasket.com/btb/2010/6/19/pau-gasol-the-real-finals-mvp.html[/url][/QUOTE]
OMG OMG OMG A subjective article.
I'm convinced.
Now I will go on youtube and enjoy Pau posting up Nate Robinson in garbage time with Kobe on the bench (Game 1 and 6).
[QUOTE=Hoopz2332][b]Pau Gasol: The Real Finals MVP[/b]
[url]http://www.behindthebasket.com/btb/2010/6/19/pau-gasol-the-real-finals-mvp.html[/url][/QUOTE]
"[I]Statistically, Gasol's input in his Lakers' title defense was significantly more important than that of Bryant.
Obviously Kobe's 29 points per look better than Gasol's 19, but it was simply the result of shooting an insane amount of shots at a low percentage. Although the Lakers shot a pitiful 41% over their seven games with Boston, Bryant actually made things worse by shooting 40% (66-163). [B]Not only that, but in a series full of close fourth-quarter battles, Bryant shot an abysmal 31% (11-36) in the games' final periods. Gasol connected on a team-high 48% from the field, hitting 43 of 90 attempts. His efficiency from the field was instrumental in stressing a tight Boston defense."[/I][/B]
Can't front on that.
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]"[I]Statistically, Gasol's input in his Lakers' title defense was significantly more important than that of Bryant.
Obviously Kobe's 29 points per look better than Gasol's 19, but it was simply the result of shooting an insane amount of shots at a low percentage. Although the Lakers shot a pitiful 41% over their seven games with Boston, Bryant actually made things worse by shooting 40% (66-163). [B]Not only that, but in a series full of close fourth-quarter battles, Bryant shot an abysmal 31% (11-36) in the games' final periods. Gasol connected on a team-high 48% from the field, hitting 43 of 90 attempts. His efficiency from the field was instrumental in stressing a tight Boston defense."[/I][/B]
Can't front on that.[/QUOTE]
Gasol was a beast and should've won the Finals MVp
[QUOTE=Hey Yo]"[I]Statistically, Gasol's input in his Lakers' title defense was significantly more important than that of Bryant.
Obviously Kobe's 29 points per look better than Gasol's 19, but it was simply the result of shooting an insane amount of shots at a low percentage. Although the Lakers shot a pitiful 41% over their seven games with Boston, Bryant actually made things worse by shooting 40% (66-163). [B]Not only that, but in a series full of close fourth-quarter battles, Bryant shot an abysmal 31% (11-36) in the games' final periods. Gasol connected on a team-high 48% from the field, hitting 43 of 90 attempts. His efficiency from the field was instrumental in stressing a tight Boston defense."[/I][/B]
Can't front on that.[/QUOTE]
Pau in the 4th during the 2010 finals.
G1: 2-3 FG (garbage points), 1 turnover, 1 missed FT
G2: 0-1 FG, 1 missed FT
G3: 1-2 FG, 1 missed FT
G4: 2-4 FG, 1 turnover
G5: 2-2 FG (garbage points in a dismal performance), 1 turnover, 1 missed FT
G6: 1-2 FG (garbage points)
G7: 1-2 FG, 4 missed FT
What a hero. :oldlol:
And if I remember correctly, there were 2 blowouts (G1 & G6), courtesy of Mr. Bryant.
Kobe shot 1-4 in a meaningless G1 4th, and then 3 desperation threes missed at the end of game 5 (messing up his 13-24 shooting up to that point).
[QUOTE]Defensively, Gasol's man-to-man defense is alright, but his ability to energetically block and redirect shots was unparalleled, blocking 18 for the series (2.6 per) and persuading multiple potential shots to not be taken.[/QUOTE]
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