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[QUOTE=Akrazotile]This thread is the exact definition of an echo chamber.
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this is a weak era for echo chambers then. :facepalm
now this... [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqrRUzqvQD8"][B]this[/B][/URL] was an echo chamber
they don't make em like that any more.
make. echo. chambers. great. again.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]I spoke to you about it like a reasonable person despite all evidence you will eventually flip out and start with insults and nonsense...and what did you do? Flip out and start with insults and nonsense. I assume others learned not to have serious conversations with you before I did. You only want a conversation about how right you are. Not real discussions from other view points. Once its clear the other person doesnt think what you think you act like it must be some kind of fabrication of their beliefs because nobody could reach a conclusion other than yours. That isnt getting anyone anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Your position was anchored by "I dont care if my tax dollars help a kid out." Then you type a ton of extra fluff, presumably to make it harder to see where exactly your weak argument is and pounce on it. Obviously filibustering and ancillary anecdotes aren't an effective way to get a discussion to a conclusion. Which is precisely why you do it.
It was an obvious a cop out position. Where will you draw the line on how many strangers youre willing to pay for? You'll never draw the line in a discussion, because there are no consequences. Of course, if I could make your local representative actually hike your taxes another 30% to help out more random kids produced by god-knows-who in some other state 2,000 miles from you... then suddenly you'd probably be coming up with reasons for protecting your own wallet.
But as long as you dont HAVE to be the bad guy, because there's no direct, immediate consequence to you? You'll take that easy, selfish, shallow way out, because you simply don't have the guts or the concern to do otherwise. You just dont care. Protect your image instead of figure out what's best for the community. It's pathetic, weak, and low IQ.
Our conflict was not about me being unwilling to acknowledge reasonable arguments. It was about you not being WILLING to make any.
There is the problem. Once you decide that only what you think is reasonable whats the point of having a conversation? Just go on trolling and bullshitting. But dont act like others dont want to talk. You clearly arent here to listen. So just make noise and stay in your bubble like others do. But dont compain about it.
Talking about pouncing on arguments and shit. Its a conversation. You are not a ****ing creature coiled in the grass about to attack. Seeing a conversation that way is a sure way for it to end with no understanding gained. If any of these problems get solved...it will be because of people like me getting people like you from both sides out of the room so the normal people can have a conversation.
Youre an impediment complaining about a lack of progress. Talking about low IQ. You are such a child at times. Its practically impossible to meet in the middle with your type in the room. And the middle is the only place you get anything accomplished.
jeff n them killed my trillion dollar deficit thread. :mad:
guess i'll just leave this here.
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[B][U]Trump budget projects four straight deficits over $1 trillion[/U][/B]
As President Donald Trump sent Congress on Monday a $4.7 trillion budget proposal for 2020, the estimates of his own budget experts predict that this spending plan will result in four straight years of deficits exceeding $1 trillion, with no budget surplus until the mid-2030's.
After a deficit of $779 billion in Fiscal Year 2018, the President's new budget plan forecasts four more years of even higher levels of red ink.
[B]2019 - [COLOR="Red"]$1.092 trillion[/COLOR]
2020 - [COLOR="Red"]$1.101 trillion[/COLOR]
2021 - [COLOR="Red"]$1.068 trillion[/COLOR]
2022 - [COLOR="Red"]$1.049 trillion[/COLOR][/B][/QUOTE]
straight from the sauce.
[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhenogvNrno"][B]we did, 'murrica.[/B][/URL] :cheers:
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Youre an impediment complaining about a lack of progress. Talking about low IQ. You are such a child at times.[B] Its practically impossible to meet in the middle with your type in the room.[/B] And the middle is the only place you get anything accomplished.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely false. I've stated repeatedly I'm not a "Wall or bust" guy. I'm positive you've seen that and you know that. I'm ambivalent on the wall, but I am serious about the issue. Meanwhile you guys are serious about the wall (opposing it) but ambivalent about the larger issue. Why is that? Because it's simply EASIER and more POPULAR with left wing America. Opposing illegal immigration, on the other hand... you're not sure where that puts you. You don't know where you'll be grouped, therefore you're not confident, therefore you play it safe. You're passing the buck on the problem because you're not confident enough to do what's right instead of what's popular. Either that or youre not smart enough to figure out why it's a problem. Either way, it's a bad look.
Any time a convo comes up about real solutions to address immigration, all you guys do is duck and run here to your safe space where all you have to do to appear "progressive" is gossip about orange man. Reinforce each other into the delusion that auto-resisting Orange Man is the standard for sophistication. Why do you think you fellas in this thread need the bar set that low? Low enough that any generic intellect can join in and get a pat on the back? You ever notice that?
A discussion that requires logical analysis and some balls to speak about honestly...? You guys are out. You're FLEEING back to the "Orange Man Bad" safe space threads. Back to "Trump is Orange!" and "Trump is just a reality star!" and "Trump isn't Presidential!"
That's it. That's all you got. If it bothers you to be called low IQ for it, then show a little more interest in the long-term good of the country we all have to share. Show some ****ing balls instead of all that insecurity. You've been hanging around too many white people probably. Go ask black dudes on the street what they think about illegal immigration, most of them are like "Hell no. That's taking away from us." They don't give a shit what some pretentious cucks on message boards have to say about their political correctness. These are dudes who dont have time for social posturing, they need to eat. So they'll be straight up. You're trying to fit in with a bunch of low-testosterone white cuck liberals whov'e made it an intellectual fad to be as passive and pu$$ified as possible. Obviously these limp-wrists do it for a reason, becasue if social value is measured any other way they dont stand a chance.
You should seriously have more pride as a man than that.
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this forum needs a wall.
[QUOTE=Hawker]Well makes sense considering medicare, medicaid and social security make up the bulk of the spending budget.[/QUOTE]
...after attacking other Republicans for potentially doing exactly what he wants to do now, and pledging never to make cuts. And while upping military spending. Makes sense I guess... :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE][B][URL="https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/14/romney-alexander-national-emergency-1221317"]12 Republicans Voted to Overturn Trump's National Emergency Declaration[/URL][/B]
In a 59-41 vote, the Senate approved a House passed-resolution to block Trump from funding his border wall without congressional approval. The GOP revolt will force Trump to issue the first veto of his presidency.
The Republican defections present an embarrassment to the White House, which sought to limit the number of senators breaking with their party. Some Republican senators attempted to strike a deal with the White House that could have curbed the number of Republicans breaking with the president, but those talks fell through.
Shortly after the Senate vote, Trump tweeted: "VETO!"[/QUOTE]
12... and this coming after the vote in the Senate yesterday to reel in US military support for the Saudis in Yemen.
Here are the traitors for today's vote:
Roger Wicker, Mississippi
Marco Rubio, Florida
Rob Portman, Ohio
Susan Collins, Maine
Lisa Murkowski, Alaska
Pat Toomey, Pennsylvania
Roy Blunt, Missouri
Lamar Alexander, Tennessee
Mitt Romney, Utah
Rand Paul, Kentucky
Jerry Moran, Kansas
Mike Lee, Utah
A little surprised to see that Mike Lee voted with the Dems, but his proposal to avert all of this did get shut down by Trump, so there's that.
They are 7 votes shy of overruling the veto. They wont...but im shocked they got THAT many.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]They are 7 votes shy of overruling the veto. They wont...but im shocked they got THAT many.[/QUOTE]
I honestly thought they'd get about 6 Republicans at the most to join in, with everyone else staying on home base. There's undoubtedly a growing rift between congressional Republicans and the administration on several key issues. You're right... this veto will stand though.
So what happens next after Trump veto? Trump gets his wall money?
[QUOTE=bladefd]So what happens next after Trump veto? Trump gets his wall money?[/QUOTE]
All of the filed lawsuits will likely slow it down. We'll likely get a series of stays on any action.
so what do u guys think about a MOAT being built around the southern us border filled with snakes and alligators to deter off illegal immigration?
or we could build an ELECTRICAL fence with spikes that can pierce human flesh at the very top.
let's get some serious discussion going here.
[QUOTE=diamenz]so what do u guys think about a MOAT being built around the southern us border filled with snakes and alligators to deter off illegal immigration?
or we could build an ELECTRICAL fence with spikes that can pierce human flesh at the very top.
let's get some serious discussion going here.[/QUOTE]
Not gonna lie, I kind of want to see this :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=diamenz]so what do u guys think about a MOAT being built around the southern us border filled with snakes and alligators to deter off illegal immigration?
or we could build an ELECTRICAL fence with spikes that can pierce human flesh at the very top.
let's get some serious discussion going here.[/QUOTE]
maga, prepare to have your [URL="https://youtu.be/vf8FHTuGPaE?t=36"][B]minds blown[/B][/URL].
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