[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Agreed.
They always shift the goal past.
Also me too but the tier has a hierarchy and a pyramid top. I don
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[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Agreed.
They always shift the goal past.
Also me too but the tier has a hierarchy and a pyramid top. I don
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[I][COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="3"]Stats for MJ & Kareem thru 13 yrs each (KAJ's stats after that aren't viable)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/I]
[U]REGULAR SEASON[/U]
[Url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#all_advanced][I]Jordan[/I][/url]:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 31.5 ppg.. 58.0 ts.. 35.3 usg.. 120 ortg.. 29.1 PER.. 0.274 ws/48.. 9.0 bpm
[Url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/abdulka01.html#1970-1982-sum:per_game][I]Kareem[/I][/url]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 27.8 ppg.. 59.0 ts.. 25.1 usg.. 118 ortg.. 26.5 PER.. 0.255 ws/48.. 7.9 bpm
[U]PLAYOFFS[/U]
[Url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#all_playoffs_advanced][I]Jordan[/I][/url]:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 33.5 ppg.. 56.8 ts.. 35.6 usg.. 118 ortg.. 28.6 PER.. 0.255 ws/48.. 10.1 bpm
[Url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/abdulka01.html#1970-1982-sum:playoffs_advanced][I]Kareem[/I][/url]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 29.1 ppg.. 56.7 ts.. 26.1 usg.. 118 ortg.. 25.8 PER.. 0.232 ws/48.... 8.7 bpm
[U]FINALS[/U]
[I]Jordan[/I]:[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 33.5 ppg.. 6 fmvp
[I]Kareem[/I]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 26.0 ppg.. 2 fmvp
[SIZE="3"]SUMMARY[/SIZE] - jordan has a massive statistical and winning edge over kareem.. this is despite Kareem not winning much in the 70's and playing for himself, while MJ was restricted by a winning system and brand of ball
[I][COLOR="DarkRed"](rebounds/blocks and assists/steals are positions-dependant and omitted from the stats above)[/COLOR][/I]
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[QUOTE=And1AllDay]Cant say Ive ever seen a worse tier system. Phoenix at least posted something good but yours I mean sheesh did you try to make the worst one possible to troll?[/QUOTE]
There's no tiers
Only MJ has goat level rings, goat stats, and accolades - all as top dog
Only MJ
I'm trying to procure a quick recap here. So far I've got
LeBron
#1 points
#1 game winners
#1 elimination game ppg
#1 steals
#1 competition
#1 Finals GmScore
#1 Finals 3 game-stretch GmScore
Jordan
#2 points
#2 game winners
#3 elimination game ppg
#2 steals
#20 competition
#6 Finals GmScore
#2 Finals 3 game-stretch GmScore
So what are we debating at this point? Whether MJ is still top 5? :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2]I'm trying to procure a quick recap here. So far I've got
LeBron
[I][COLOR="Navy"]#1 points[/COLOR][/I] [B]per game is the real record[/B]
[I][COLOR="Navy"]#1 steals[/COLOR][/I] [B]per game is the real record[/B]
[I][COLOR="Navy"]#1 game winners[/COLOR][/I] [B]per game is the real record... and also Finals clutch shots (lebron has 0, MJ has 4)... and must include game-tie'ers and overall clutch stats, where MJ beats Bron handily.. :confusedshrug: [/B]
[I][COLOR="Navy"]#1 elimination game ppg[/COLOR][/I] [b]lebron went 7 with weak teams[/b]
[I][COLOR="Navy"]#1 competition[/COLOR][/I] [b]MJ beat better teams, i.e. b2b champs, Shaq/Duncan killers.. who did GSW beat? (nobody - weakest comp ever for a dynasty)[/b]
[I][COLOR="Navy"]#1 Finals GmScore[/COLOR][/I] [B]MJ has the highest gamescore ever for a Finals series, so he wins Finals series easier than lebron does[/B]
[I][COLOR="Navy"]#1 Finals 3 game-stretch GmScore[/COLOR][/i] - [B]MJ has the highest gamescore ever for a Finals series, so he wins Finals series easier than lebron does[/B]
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:crazysam:
felt like using a different emoji
[QUOTE=3ball]There's no tiers
Only MJ has goat level rings, goat stats, and accolades - all as top dog
Only MJ[/QUOTE]
Well, this ...
[QUOTE=Marchesk]They'd be left wondering what his legacy would look like if he had shown up for 2011 finals, hadn't driven Kyrie away, and hadn't lost the FMVP to dudes playing his position as much as he won it.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
OP once again showing his insecurity over having to settle for watching mediocrity instead of being one of the real fans who enjoyed watching MJ dominate the sport properly in the form of 6/6, rather than some wannabe 3/9 bullshit. :oldlol:
Another day
Another win
:hammertime: :hammertime: :hammertime:
[QUOTE=egokiller]:roll:
OP once again showing his insecurity over having to settle for watching mediocrity instead of being one of the real fans who enjoyed watching MJ dominate the sport properly in the form of 6/6, rather than some wannabe 3/9 bullshit. :oldlol:
Another day
Another win
:hammertime: :hammertime: :hammertime:[/QUOTE]
Onthce again thowing his inthecuritys over having to thettle
:oldlol:
[QUOTE=TheCorporation]Onthce again thowing his inthecuritys over having to thettle
:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Are you one of Simon's alts???
I saw one really good post by you in the Giannis vs Harden thread, but all the rest is just LeStanning trolling.
Why??
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2]I'm trying to procure a quick recap here. So far I've got
LeBron
#1 points
#1 game winners
#1 elimination game ppg
#1 steals
#1 competition
#1 Finals GmScore
#1 Finals 3 game-stretch GmScore
Jordan
#2 points
#2 game winners
#3 elimination game ppg
#2 steals
#20 competition
#6 Finals GmScore
#2 Finals 3 game-stretch GmScore
So what are we debating at this point? Whether MJ is still top 5? :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Anyone?
[url]http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarankalltime/greatest-players-ever[/url]
Anyone?
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2]I'm trying to procure a quick recap here. So far I've got
LeBron
#1 points
#1 game winners
#1 elimination game ppg
#1 steals
#1 competition
#1 Finals GmScore
#1 Finals 3 game-stretch GmScore
Jordan
#2 points
#2 game winners
#3 elimination game ppg
#2 steals
#20 competition
#6 Finals GmScore
#2 Finals 3 game-stretch GmScore
So what are we debating at this point? Whether MJ is still top 5? :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
ANYONE ?
[QUOTE=3ball]:crazysam:
felt like using a different emoji[/QUOTE]
:biggums: Gamewinners per game?
:roll: