I am DONE financially supporting the league on any level

[QUOTE=34-24 Footwork]Lol. Who says these mouth breathers are getting banned? Utah Jazz organization is "investigating the incident".

To be honest, these idiots are the tip of the iceberg. They'd have to ban about 20% of their ticket holders if they wanted to "clean things up".[/QUOTE]


if racism in utah is so out of control to the point where you would have to ban everyone from the stadium then maybe you should stand up for yourself and refuse to work in an unsafe environment. protest to league office.


thats if its nearly as bad as you say it is. then there would have to be thousands of hours of video and audio evidence to support that claim. the nba would relocate the jazz organization and that would be the end of it



but maybe ...just maybe ....you're being a little overdramatic

[QUOTE=kennethgriffen]the thing is society advocates black people to be openly racist and almost encourages them with little to no repercussion


its gotten so bad that it actually has people backing male physical violence against women as a proper retaliation


:lol



and who in their right mind assumes racism doesn't exist[/QUOTE]

I've said before, that I will never argue with you. Not because I can't, but because you're an intellectually dishonest, obfuscating, lying disturbed, weasel of an individual. You're not here to have any sort of reasoned debate, and concede an issue when appropriate. You're here solely to annoy people, and push your anti Lebron, pro-Kobe agenda. That is IT. As such, it is pointless to engage with you in any sort of serious fashion.

[QUOTE=Hardtop Hero]I've said before, that I will never argue with you. Not because I can't, but because you're an intellectually dishonest, obfuscating, lying disturbed, weasel of an individual. You're not here to have any sort of reasoned debate, and concede an issue when appropriate. You're here solely to annoy people, and push your anti Lebron, pro-Kobe agenda. That is IT. As such, it is pointless to engage with you in any sort of serious fashion.[/QUOTE]


translation - "i give up"


you couldn't prove to me that violence against women is proper retaliation to racism





boo hoo...


i guess that must mean i'm "obfuscating" :lol

[QUOTE=kennethgriffen]if racism in utah is so out of control to the point where you would have to ban everyone from the stadium then maybe you should stand up for yourself and refuse to work in an unsafe environment. protest to league office.


thats if its nearly as bad as you say it is. then there would have to be thousands of hours of video and audio evidence to support that claim. the nba would relocate the jazz organization and that would be the end of it



but maybe ...just maybe ....you're being a little overdramatic[/QUOTE]

Or maybe you don't have a f**king clue as to what it feels like to have racial hate thrown your way and it impact you in any real way.

You're not the grand arbiter on how a black person should respond in that situation, if they want to go at someone for initiating being a racist jerk off towards them so be it.

[QUOTE=Soundwave]Or maybe you don't have a f**king clue as to what it feels like to have racial hate thrown your way and it impact you in any real way.

You're not the grand arbiter on how a black person should respond in that situation, if they want to go at someone for initiating being a racist jerk off towards them so be it.[/QUOTE]


words only hurt if they have any credibility



do you know how many times on worldstar someones called me a cave monkey pig skin dog f*cking, sister f*cking pedophile


know why it doesn't bother me? because none of its true. i would only be hurt if i was any of those things.


when you react in a volatile way to racism you're only giving them credibility

[QUOTE=kennethgriffen]words only hurt if they have any credibility



do you know how many times on worldstar someone calls me a cave monkey pig skin dog f*cking, sister f*cking pedophile


know why it doesn't bother me? because none of its true. i would only be hurt if i was any of those things.


so when you react in a volatile way to racism you're only giving them credibility[/QUOTE]

Yeah that's easy for you to f**king say, dur hur "words only hurt if you let them". If I knew everything about your personal history and I said something specific about say a family issue or some other kind of issue that I knew you were sensitive about I doubt you'd be so "dur hur! I'm just going to ignore that". I bet it would be fairly easy to your get stupid ass riled up. You get riled up on stupid basketball arguments on this board, so gimme a break with that BS.

So spare me the lecture on how you're mister perfect, you're not. You have no credibility on this topic because you don't understand what it is to be in his position.

There are buttons that can be pressed on anyone, if you're going to make racially charged taunts towards a black person, your stupid ass better be ready for a response to that.

[QUOTE=kennethgriffen]translation - "i give up"


you couldn't prove to me that violence against women is proper retaliation to racism





boo hoo...


i guess that must mean i'm "obfuscating" :lol[/QUOTE]

Just to show an example of the lying and obfuscating you do. You wrote that society "advocates for blacks to be openly racist", which is, of course, absurd but what does that have to do with me defending violence against women as proper retaliation to racism? Something I never even spoke to.

So you're just jumping all around on your supposed "points". But Russell didn't even engage in a violent act against her so what you really meant was [I]threatening[/I] violence is a proper retaliation. But this is the type of dumb shit you regularly do, which is why, as I said, attempting to seriously debate you is going into a rabbit hole of stupidity and dishonesty.

Racist people like Op have zero understanding of the concept "putting your hand in the lion cage". If you want to be a racist piece of shit you have every right. Just know that there are consequences when lines are crossed that you can't cry about, when you placed yourself in that situation.

[QUOTE=Soundwave]Or maybe you don't have a f**king clue as to what it feels like to have racial hate thrown your way and it impact you in any real way.

You're not the grand arbiter on how a black person should respond in that situation, if they want to go at someone for initiating being a racist jerk off towards them so be it.[/QUOTE]

But this is what I was talking about, and why they think they're so clever. Their default position = racism is no big deal or it's blacks (or other minorities) that are ACTUALLY racist. Then you present them with an example of egregious white racism and it's "Oh come on, why so sensitive? See, you SJWs have to take things sooo serious. Blacks are just sooo overly sensitive, etc."

So again, they've essentially insulated themselves into a world where anyone white can say or do anything as racist as they want and it's those who actually point it out, condemn it, etc. that are wrong. It's the racists' perfect armor.

[QUOTE=Soundwave]

There are buttons that can be pressed on anyone, if you're going to make racially charged taunts towards a black person, your stupid ass better be ready for a response to that.[/QUOTE]

This type of escalation is bad for everyone. Imagine if this happened on the street, and imagine if Russell tried attacking that man. Utah is a stand-your-ground state. Imagine if that man had a gun. a real tragedy might happened :facepalm

[QUOTE=Soundwave]Yeah that's easy for you to f**king say, dur hur "words only hurt if you let them". [B]If I knew everything about your personal history and I said something specific about say a family issue or some other kind of issue that I knew you were sensitive about I doubt you'd be so "dur hur! I'm just going to ignore that"[/B]. I bet it would be fairly easy to your stupid ass riled up.

So spare me the lecture on how you're mister perfect, you're not. You have no credibility on this topic because you don't understand what it is to be in his position.

There are buttons that can be pressed on anyone, if you're going to make racially charged taunts towards a black person, you stupid ass better be ready for a response to that.[/QUOTE]



1. that would be attacking something about me thats true and has total validity ... if black people truly believe they are equal then there are no words that can hurt you. ok so your ancestors were easly subdued. so? my ancestors were total retards too. everyone was mentally retarded 300 years ago

2. theres no excuse for putting your hands on a woman unless they're attacking you and you feel threatened. they might be bigger than average or have a weapon. then its perfectly acceptable


3. if you feel the need to attack someone because they say something racist towards you then you believe what they're saying is true about you. westbrook obviously still feels like the white man can make him get on his knees. maybe liberal society is to blame for that mentality. the constant racial divide propaganda news coverage pushing white male cops committing unjust acts upon black males. this gives westbrook a sense of unease and a lack of trust in his surroundings


blame your own political party for this tension. they made it this way to win over your votes

[QUOTE=STATUTORY]This type of escalation is bad for everyone. Imagine if this happened on the street, and imagine if Russell tried attacking that man. Utah is a stand-your-ground state. Imagine if that man had a gun. a real tragedy might happened :facepalm[/QUOTE]
imagine if that piece of shit had human manners and decency it wouldn't ever get that far in the 1st place.

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon]Racist people like Op have zero understanding of the concept "putting your hand in the lion cage". If you want to be a racist piece of shit you have every right. Just know that there are consequences when lines are crossed that you can't cry about, when you placed yourself in that situation.[/QUOTE]



comparing yourself to a caged wild animal isn't helping your argument

[QUOTE=STATUTORY]They just gonna let a player physically threaten a paying fan and his wife just cause that fan supposedly said something which Russ' sensitive ass could have misheard or mistook as racial?

Emo SJW primadonnas ruined this sport. They should be playing basketball in a safe space not an open court.

[/QUOTE]

Cool. So when you leaving?

[QUOTE=STATUTORY]This type of escalation is bad for everyone. Imagine if this happened on the street, and imagine if Russell tried attacking that man. Utah is a stand-your-ground state. Imagine if that man had a gun. a real tragedy might happened :facepalm[/QUOTE]

Again easy to say when you really have no skin in the game. I also bet your story would be real different if the person taunting you did so in a personal way towards you that pressed a button about something you're sensitive about.

You're not the f**king arbiter of how a black person should respond to be racially taunted, in fact you're the last f**king person probably who should be lecturing anyone so f**k off. Don't like the NBA, go watch the NHL, no one gives a sh*t about your sports spending habits.