[QUOTE=Rysio;14387951]Hard to compare LeBron is more like pippen kobe is more like Jordan. Obviously LeBron has better stats but he clearly plays for stats kobe didn't. 5-2 > 4-6[/QUOTE]
4-6 >>>>> 2-1
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[QUOTE=Rysio;14387951]Hard to compare LeBron is more like pippen kobe is more like Jordan. Obviously LeBron has better stats but he clearly plays for stats kobe didn't. 5-2 > 4-6[/QUOTE]
4-6 >>>>> 2-1
Kobe is the goat pure scorer with a live dribble.
Kobe has all-time jumpshooting skill
Kobe has two "carry-job" rings where he averaged 10+ more than his sidekick in playoffs and Finals, while also leading the team in assists
Kobe's didn't have to team-hop like KD or Lebron and therefore learned to WIN (organic), which requires the superior skills of fitting with teammates (on-ball/off-ball), learning championship strategy/brand of ball, and perseverance (lebron bailed a year early and ceded the 1-star organic ring that he thought was impossible to Dirk)
[QUOTE=3ba11;14388138]Kobe is the goat pure scorer with a live dribble.
Kobe has all-time jumpshooting skill
Kobe has two "carry-job" rings where he averaged 10+ more than his sidekick in playoffs and Finals, while also leading the team in assists
Kobe's didn't have to team-hop like KD or Lebron and therefore learned to WIN (organic), which requires the superior skills of fitting with teammates (on-ball/off-ball), learning championship strategy/brand of ball, and perseverance (lebron bailed a year early and ceded the 1-star organic ring that he thought was impossible to Dirk)[/QUOTE]
Team hopping requires more skill since you need to fit in with new teammates and management. Need a better understanding of human psychology and how to lead different kinds of people. LeGM'ing also requires a knowledge of how to build teams, acquire talent and lead an organization. Sitting on your ass and hoping daddy(management) helps you out is for sackless cucks who take no initiative and don't want to work so they can focus on playing a child's ball game.
[QUOTE=3ba11;14388138]Kobe is the goat pure scorer with a live dribble.
Kobe has all-time jumpshooting skill
Kobe has two "carry-job" rings where he averaged 10+ more than his sidekick in playoffs and Finals, while also leading the team in assists
Kobe's didn't have to team-hop like KD or Lebron and therefore learned to WIN (organic), which requires the superior skills of fitting with teammates (on-ball/off-ball), learning championship strategy/brand of ball, and perseverance (lebron bailed a year early and ceded the 1-star organic ring that he thought was impossible to Dirk)[/QUOTE]
Kobe was first to practice and last to leave. Teammates have testified he worked worked worked with everybody to mentor and make the most out of them. True leader.
Kobe repeated with just Bosh (Pau). Imagine if the Lakers had Wade. And STILL lost. :oldlol: That's Miami Lebron.
[QUOTE=FKAri;14388141]Team hopping requires more skill since you need to fit in with new teammates and management. Need a better understanding of human psychology and how to lead different kinds of people. LeGM'ing also requires a knowledge of how to build teams, acquire talent and lead an organization. Sitting on your ass and hoping daddy(management) helps you out is for sackless cucks who take no initiative and don't want to work so they can focus on playing a child's ball game.[/QUOTE]
Team-hopping doesn't have time to develop championship strategy/brand, so they achieve favorite status in Year 1 via talent accumulation, namely a star scorer at 3rd option that organic teams don't have..
The talent deficit (no 3rd star) forces organic teams to achieve favorite status after many years by developing strategy/brand, which requires superior skill (fitting with teammates and learning/implementing the superior strategy).
Btw, organic teams refers to weak teams that developed into champions, not teams that were good right away like Bird's Celtics or Magic's collusion with Kareem.
[QUOTE=8Ball;14388099]Also Kobe lost to 2012 OKC while LeBron beat 2012 3 MVP OKC.[/QUOTE]
Lebron lost to Boston with HCA while Kobe beat them with it in 2010 as well.
Scoring - Kobe
Passing - LeBron
Handles - Kobe
Work Ethic - Kobe
Defense - Kobe
Rebounding - LeBron
Athleticism - LeBron
Post Moves - Kobe
Slashing - LeBron
Leadership - Kobe
Shooting - Kobe
Heart - Kobe
[QUOTE=Orange_Cassidy;14387959]don't really understand why you're face palming that dude.
1. lebrons a beta [/QUOTE]
Stopped reading there. Typical low IQ Kobe tard. User ignore function engaged.
There isn’t a single intelligent person who thinks this is still a debate. Not one.
[QUOTE=RRR3;14388254]There isn’t a single intelligent person who thinks this is still a debate. Not one.[/QUOTE]
Most players have Kobe ahead of Lebron and Kobe leads the voting itt
Kobe didn't need equal-scoring partners to win, while Lebron did - he barely averaged more than his sidekicks when he won the Finals and always had a 3rd star (super-team), except for when AD was outproducing him
[QUOTE=OrlandoMagicGuy;14388221]Scoring - Kobe
Passing - LeBron
Handles - Kobe
Work Ethic - Kobe
Defense - Kobe
Rebounding - LeBron
Athleticism - LeBron
Post Moves - Kobe
Slashing - LeBron
Leadership - Kobe
Shooting - Kobe
Heart - Kobe[/QUOTE]
Kobe a better LEADER than Lebron? Kobe was a horrendous leader.
[QUOTE=FKAri;14388296]Kobe a better LEADER than Lebron? Kobe was a horrendous leader.[/QUOTE]
There's no way in hell LeBron is a better leader or even close to being the greatest leader,the guy traded away half a team in the middle of a season including Isaiah Thomas after saying the team don't practice,gets literally shoved by a teammate to play defense,and was found sitting at the end of the Lakers bench at one point.Team hopping and joining up with multiple hall of famers don't make you a better leader.
[QUOTE=FKAri;14388296]Kobe a better LEADER than Lebron? Kobe was a horrendous leader.[/QUOTE]
How is Lebron a leader? He just team-hopped around and plays with the league's best talent. he can't actually lead a team to a title - he can only team-hop... It's a joke what he does, yet people somehow laud teaming up as "making guys better" and "leadership"..... Nope - it's just teaming up with ready-made stars and getting instant favorite status.
Team hopping to lottery teams..... leads them to a title in his 2nd year in both cases.
GOAT
[QUOTE=RRR3;14388254]There isn’t a single intelligent person who thinks this is still a debate. Not one.[/QUOTE]
How not?