Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=Stephonit;13941751]But the government doesn't treat everyone equally. The benefits the government provides doesn't benefit everyone equally. The owner of a company that has a fleet of trucks transporting merchandise likely uses the roads a whole lot more and benefits a whole lot more from the roads than an individual. You saying they should pay the exact same amount?[/QUOTE]
Those individuals are purchasing the materials the owner is shipping is he not? And those materials are enriching the lives of those purchasing it or they not?
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=Phong;13941789]Were they not compensated for their work by their employers? [/QUOTE]
Nope, your argument is incomplete. Go look at how much production went up from the 60s and then later decades. Then go take a look at how much middle-class incomes went up after accounted for inflation since the 70s.
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Apple pays their workers in China, India and Bangladesh $2 a day working 6 days a week in horrendous unsafe conditions. They are being compensated too, but nobody sits here and says it is reasonable. Look at the massive profit margins Apple is collecting on those very same phones.
Trickle down economics is a con job by Reagan and later conservative fools. In practice, it does not work out as theorized
You are being cucked by the rich oligarchs and continue defending those who are doing the cucking :lol
Think of it this way. You have a wife? Say I began to bang her in your own house while you are at work. Then you find out about it, and you do nothing about it. Pretty soon, I begin to bang her while you are home in different room, but you keep allowing the cucking. Then next thing you know, I start banging your 18yr old daughter few years later. Again you do nothing. You keep getting cucked again and again through the generations, but you have nothing to say. You walk around smiling as if nothing is happening. You keep watching and doing nothing as you keep getting used & your wife+daughter screwed :pimp:
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=Hawker;13942094]This simply is not the case. Share of income has increased substantially across all sectors. Age gap is something not taken into account in so called wealth "inequality" which isn't a major issue.[/QUOTE]
Income growth has been outrageously out of control to the top 1% beyond comprehension since the 70s. That's a fact.
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=Hawker;13942095]Those individuals are purchasing the materials the owner is shipping is he not? And those materials are enriching the lives of those purchasing it or they not?[/QUOTE]
Yes and the owner is profiting. Also the individual buyers are in many cases paying an extra something called a sales tax.
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=bladefd;13942100]Nope, your argument is incomplete. Go look at how much production went up from the 60s and then later decades. Then go take a look at how much middle-class incomes went up after accounted for inflation since the 70s.
[IMG]https://psmag.com/.image/t_share/MTMwOTY0Mjc4MTkzNzIyNjQy/chart1jpg.jpg[/IMG][/quote] You think the increase in production resulted from workers working more or was it due to more efficient manufacturing processes and increased automation?
As for middle class income it followed inflation and they have the same purchasing power as they had in the past. What are you expecting? That somehow you should be able to buy more stuff for doing the same work?
[I]"In fact, despite some ups and downs over the past several decades, today’s real average wage (that is, the wage after accounting for inflation) has about [B]the same purchasing power it did 40 years ago[/B]."[/I]
[url]https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/[/url]
[QUOTE=bladefd;13942100]
Apple pays their workers in China,
India and Bangladesh $2 a day working 6 days a week in horrendous unsafe conditions. They are being compensated too, but nobody sits here and says it is reasonable. Look at the massive profit margins Apple is collecting on those very same phones.[/quote] Reasonable according to which standards? American standards or theirs? Developing countries welcome those jobs as they provide a way for them to escape extreme poverty.
Btw, Apple pays their Chinese factory workers $3.15/hr; not $2 a day like you claimed.
Apple can make all the money they want. They provide a product and people buy it. Where in the middle of that transaction do you think you have the right to take money for yourself?
[QUOTE=bladefd;13942100]Think of it this way. You have a wife? Say I began to bang her in your own house while you are at work. Then you find out about it, and you do nothing about it. Pretty soon, I begin to bang her while you are home in different room, but you keep allowing the cucking. Then next thing you know, I start banging your 18yr old daughter few years later. Again you do nothing. You keep getting cucked again and again through the generations, but you have nothing to say. You walk around smiling as if nothing is happening. You keep watching and doing nothing as you keep getting used & your wife+daughter screwed :pimp:[/QUOTE]I hope you enjoyed that little tale. For once in your life you were able to imagine yourself as a pimp and not a loser. Unfortunately, it's time to go back to reality.
Simple question, are you unable to provide for yourself?
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=Stephonit;13942189]Yes and the owner is profiting. Also the individual buyers are in many cases paying an extra something called a sales tax.[/QUOTE]
Yes - and he gets a profit because individuals are voluntarily buying that product. He gets a profit for enriching their lives. That's how it works. Jesus christ you're a tool.
I'm sure the owner pays his fair share of sales taxes on materials to make the product. And on the additional items he buys with the profit from the product.
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=Draz;13942054]Comments like these are exactly why you're on the bottom of the tadpole. The 1% doesn't give a flying fck about you or anyone below them. In fact, they don't even respect millionaires.
Backing them up like you're on their payroll does no good for you or anyone else.
They've earned their money through loopholes and squeezing people who work for them as much as possible until they're on to the next thing.
Walmart can always find another teenager or HS dropout crackhead to work for them without benefits and not a livable wage, or, a person down on their feet with a family to take care of.
It's insane how many people back the top 1% when shit hits the fan here (Corona virus, any disaster) given the opportunity they're going to other places together to avoid the plagues while you fend for yourself.
Sooner or later there's going to be a revolution against them and the numbers in people vs the numbers in money can't do anything but buy time.[/QUOTE]
Lmao ok Lenin :oldlol:
You do realize that millionaires are the 1% right?
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=CelticBaller;13942307]Lmao ok Lenin :oldlol:
You do realize that millionaires are the 1% right?[/QUOTE] Bernie is part of the 1% therefore:
- Bernie doesn't give a flying f[I]u[/I]ck about anyone below him
- Bernie made his money through loopholes
- Bernie will abandon the Bernie Bros when shit hits the fan
Yet this moron is backing Bernie and will join the revolution against him. :oldlol:
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=Phong;13942218]You think the increase in production resulted from workers working more or was it due to more efficient manufacturing processes and increased automation?
As for middle class income it followed inflation and they have the same purchasing power as they had in the past. What are you expecting? That somehow you should be able to buy more stuff for doing the same work?
[I]"In fact, despite some ups and downs over the past several decades, today’s real average wage (that is, the wage after accounting for inflation) has about [B]the same purchasing power it did 40 years ago[/B]."[/I]
[url]https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/08/07/for-most-us-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/[/url][/quote]
Sure, efficient manufacturing processes and increased automation is crucial, but whatever happened to trickle down economics that conservatives have been trying to push down our throats since the 70s? If employers do great then wealth will trickle down to the employees, right?
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Same purchasing power... wonderful except for the fact that most new wealth has gone into the pockets of those at the top and expenses that have gone up much quicker than income growths. One would think that purchasing power (after accounting for inflation) would have gone up for workers in a booming economy for 50yrs, but you are just pleased being stagnant?
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(image is 1990 to 2018 but we know it would look much worse if we include numbers going back to the 1970s)
[quote]Reasonable according to which standards? American standards or theirs? Developing countries welcome those jobs as they provide a way for them to escape extreme poverty.
Btw, Apple pays their Chinese factory workers $3.15/hr; not $2 a day like you claimed.
Apple can make all the money they want. They provide a product and people buy it. Where in the middle of that transaction do you think you have the right to take money for yourself?[/quote]
Sure, it is better than nothing, but it's still sh!tty pay.. Especially considering how much those companies sell those items for in the end.
How much of an assho|e company do you have to be to pay pennies for assembly of shoes or iphones in trash unsafe conditions when you end up pocketing crazy profit margins? $1,000 phones probably cost a few dollars to assemble in China or India. Imagine assembling a $300 phone for $10 and selling for $1,000. You telling me they can't afford to up that $10 assembly to $30?? God forbid you had to profit $20 less per phone.. And you defend that behavior..
You are a conservative tool who is perfectly fine being bent over the table. I don't have time for a tool like you. Get lost.
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
I'm being bent yet you -the one who knows how the system works- are broke as fvck. I'd rather get bent than paying taxes to provide for a whiny loser like yourself. :oldlol:
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
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Comrade Draz :applause:
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=bladefd;13942560]$1,000 phones probably cost a few dollars to assemble in China or India. Imagine assembling a $300 phone for $10 and selling for $1,000. You telling me they can't afford to up that $10 assembly to $30?? God forbid you had to profit $20 less per phone.. And you defend that behavior..[/QUOTE] No wonder you're broke. You suck with money.
[I]"which delivers a [B]total production cost of $490.50[/B]. That’s less than half of Apple’s [B]$1099 retail price[/B] for the iPhone 11 Pro Max. Of course, [B]this breakdown doesn’t include research, development or marketing[/B] which would significantly increase the overall cost to Apple.."[/I]
[URL="https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/how-much-apple-iphone-cost-to-make/"]https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/how-much-apple-iphone-cost-to-make/[/URL]
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=Phong;13942077]Bottom of the tadpole? I'm not the one moaning and whining to get scraps from the 1%. It's quite pathetic that you guys have no ambitions beyond dreaming about taking other people's money.
Are you gonna be ok until the revolution?[/QUOTE]
I don't need scraps buddy, I'm only 27 sitting on 6 figures. I've worked for mine.
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=Draz;13942584]I don't need scraps buddy, I'm only 27 sitting on 6 figures. I've worked for mine.[/QUOTE] Awesome. If you feel generous, give some money to bladefd. He's in grave need of help.
Re: Of all major Democrat candidates only Warren & Booker gave more to charity
[QUOTE=Phong;13942573]No wonder you're broke. You suck with money.
[I]"which delivers a [B]total production cost of $490.50[/B]. That’s less than half of Apple’s [B]$1099 retail price[/B] for the iPhone 11 Pro Max. Of course, [B]this breakdown doesn’t include research, development or marketing[/B] which would significantly increase the overall cost to Apple.."[/I]
[URL="https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/how-much-apple-iphone-cost-to-make/"]https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/how-much-apple-iphone-cost-to-make/[/URL][/QUOTE]
You telling me they can't afford to spend $20 extra per phone assembled to worker? That would be next to nothing to Apple but would be the world to the workers.
Oh god forbid Apple profiting a little bit less on the stock market. You are pretty much a conservative Establishment cuck who does not care about the working-class people. You only care about those at the top to keep playing everyone in the middle and the bottom. They got you.