Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=TAZORAC;14341527]None really..Booker and Beal are actually better 3 point shooters, but Kobe had a better post game.
[B]If Beal had a O'neal type of player his first 3-4 years he'd have a championship as well.[/B]
And you'll never get a legit answer other then "YOU NEVER WATCHED KOBE"[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, did you watch Beal play the first 3 or 4 years of his career? You're comparing that to Kobe?
:facepalm
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Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
probably the worst thread in ISH history
kobe had zero weaknesses on offense, zero
besides his shot selection being borderline retarded, he had really good everything.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=paksat;14342676]probably the worst thread in ISH history
kobe had zero weaknesses on offense, zero
besides his shot selection being borderline retarded, he had really good everything.[/QUOTE]
Of course. But Kobe's retarded shot selection is what also made him great, but unlike Beal and Booker, he could also run the triangle better than Pippen ever did.
And this is coming from Phil Jackson, regarding a 22 y.o Kobe
[QUOTE]"Kobe's become the floor leader of a basketball team that was kind of looking for that nature of a player, who could not only be a scorer, but also be a playmaker or consistently make big plays at critical times," Jackson said. "So it was very important for Kobe to step into that role that he was envisioned at. I've always held the bar up very high for Kobe, and he's not only reached that bar, but he's jumping over the top of it right now.
"And I think it's the best that I've ever seen a player of mine play with an overall court game. I'm asking him to do so much, and he's accomplishing it."
Jackson was quickly asked for a clarification. That includes Michael Jordan?
"I never asked Michael to be a playmaker," Jackson said. "That's the greatest player that I've ever had, that I could consider the greatest player in the game, and I never asked him to be a playmaker in those terms. I asked him to be playmaker when he was doubled or tripled. But Kobe has to set up the offense, to advance the ball, to read the defense, to make other players happy, and he's doing a great job of that."[/QUOTE]
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
You can add Mitchell to this, by the way....
the answer is still nothing.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14348004]You can add Mitchell to this, by the way....
the answer is still nothing.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Stop it.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=RRR3;14348005]:facepalm
Stop it.[/QUOTE]
Answer.
Why is Kobe supposed to be better than Mitchell.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14348007]Answer.
Why is Kobe supposed to be better than Mitchell.[/QUOTE]
You like stats. His stats are better. There you go.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=RRR3;14348008]You like stats. His stats are better. There you go.[/QUOTE]
I asked you a question.
What does Kobe do outside of the stat sheet, that isnt being recorded/documented by basketball basic or advanced stats, to top Mitchell?
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14348007]Answer.
Why is Kobe supposed to be better than Mitchell.[/QUOTE]
Better production in a tougher defensive era. Mitchell hasn't even made an All-NBA team yet and he's 24 :kobe: .
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14348011]I asked you a question.
What does Kobe do outside of the stat sheet, that isnt being recorded/documented by basketball basic or advanced stats, to top Mitchell?[/QUOTE]
Um...everything besides 3pt shooting.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14348013]Better production in a tougher defensive era. Mitchell hasn't even made an All-NBA team yet and he's 24 :kobe: .[/QUOTE]
He didnt have better production though.
Mitchell is on pace to be a same level playoff scorer in volume, on better efficiency.
Kobe has a defensive edge from 99-03, and thats about it.
Its a slim argument.
There is nothing he gives more to a team.
Are we gonna forever keep him above better producing and more efficient players because he played in a tougher defensive era?
Seems pretty weak.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14348018]He didnt have better production though.
Mitchell is on pace to be a same level playoff scorer in volume, on better efficiency.
Kobe has a defensive edge from 99-03, and thats about it.
Its a slim argument.
There is nothing he gives more to a team.
Are we gonna forever keep him above better producing and more efficient players because he played in a tougher defensive era?
Seems pretty weak.[/QUOTE]
He did.
Mitchell 2021: 26/4/5 56.9%TS, league average TS% is 57.2
Kobe 2003: 30/7/6 55%TS, league average TS% was 51.9
now stfu
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=RRR3;14348017]Um...everything besides 3pt shooting.[/QUOTE]
by that logic Kobe will always keep his place as fundamentally he's textbook.
production doesn't seem to matter anymore when it comes to Kobe.
He had ideal mechanics, good enough.
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ImKobe;14348020]He did.
Mitchell 2021: 26/4/5 56.9%TS, league average TS% is 57.2
Kobe 2003: 30/7/6 55%TS, league average TS% was 51.9
now stfu[/QUOTE]
league average TS%? :roll:
So Russell was also an offensive GOAT?
Re: Tell me what makes Kobe Bryant better than Bradley Beal or Devin Booker
[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14348025]league average TS%? :roll:
So Russell was also an offensive GOAT?[/QUOTE]
Yes, I used the league average to illustrate that it was much harder to score in the early 2000s vs. right now. I shouldn't even have to explain this but you clearly have 0 knowledge about the game of basketball and are trying to compare undersized SGs with limited all-around game to a top 10 ATG.