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[QUOTE=Manny98;14427513]You just made my point
Jordan or Lebron would get absolutely torn to shreds they failed to score above 10 points in a finals game let alone 3 times :facepalm
Wilt is a tier below LeBron and MJ, no shame in that still arguably top 10 all time but far from the GOAT[/QUOTE]
To be fair, Wilt was a far more disruptive defensive force. He could change the game just on that end of the floor in an era with little outside shooting.
[QUOTE=dankok8;14427558]To be fair, Wilt was a far more disruptive defensive force. He could change the game just on that end of the floor in an era with little outside shooting.[/QUOTE]
Wilt was basically getting frozen out of the Lakers offence in the 1969 finals.
I had someone that works at the NBA archives and saw game 3 of the 1969 finals that Wilt only touched the ball six or seven times on offence in the fourth quarter.
As West and Baylor shot a combined 1 from 14 from the field.
When Wilt is from 6 out of 11 from the floor and you refuse to give him the ball in a close game in the fourth quarter.
To go up 3 games to zero on the Celtics it's no wonder the Lakers lost the finals that year.
[QUOTE=dankok8;14427558]To be fair, Wilt was a far more disruptive defensive force. He could change the game just on that end of the floor in an era with little outside shooting.[/QUOTE]
West and Baylor were being very selfish in the 1969 finals.
West was 9 out of 24 from the floor.
Baylor was 4 out of 18 from the floor.
And Wilt was 6 out of 11 from the floor.
In-game 3
If VBK had told them to feed Wilt in game 3 and give him over 20 shots.
I think the Lakers win the title in 1969.
Of course, Van Breda Kolf wouldn't have stood for that
As he was even quoted with this, "When we pass the ball to Wilt, he will score. But it is an ugly offence to watch."
Wilt was still capable of being a force on offence in 1969.
As that season over the course of 17 straight games, Wilt crushed the league, averaging 31.1 ppg in that span.
Included were games of 30 on ROY and HOFer Elvin Hayes; 33 on Bob Rule (look him up...he had three straight outstanding seasons before he injured his knee.
And even a 35 point game on Russell, which was his highest against Russell since his 46 point game in the '66 ECF's.
[QUOTE=ELITEpower23;14427423]You just posted something confirming he does not stat pad because he "let so many slip away." I bet he probably has the most 10+, 10+, 9 games meaning he does NOT go for them. Are you that dense coach?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SaintzFury13;14427428]First off, you just gave me an interview where he outright admits that he had many games where was one assist and one rebound away from getting a triple double and he let them go. How does that not prove my point? Second, that's the best proof you have of him being adamant about it? One game? And how many games has LeBron played in his career? And the best you could find me was one game, and the Madison Square Garden games (because it's a well known fact that he went all out whenever he played there back in the first stint with Cleveland and early Miami days). That to me qualifies as "very rarely".[/QUOTE]
It doesn't prove your point because post 2012, LeBron has built a reputation of himself as being a stat padder. It's not extreme, but it does exist in the minds of many. You really want me to go fishing for the numerous games where he has done this to prove my point?
Not to mention, current and former players, including his own teammates (IT and Jae Crowder come to mind), who alluded to this point?
So we acknowledge that prior to 2013 he rarely did it, but disregard the fact that he said he will be doing it from 2013 onward? How does that work?
[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14428204]It doesn't prove your point because post 2012, LeBron has built a reputation of himself as being a stat padder. It's not extreme, but it does exist in the minds of many. You really want me to go fishing for the numerous games where he has done this to prove my point?
Not to mention, current and former players, including his own teammates (IT and Jae Crowder come to mind), who alluded to this point?
So we acknowledge that prior to 2013 he rarely did it, but disregard the fact that he said he will be doing it from 2013 onward? How does that work?[/QUOTE]
OMG are you saying he went for more points and assists!? What shall we do?
[QUOTE=HoopsNY;14428204]It doesn't prove your point because post 2012, LeBron has built a reputation of himself as being a stat padder. It's not extreme, but it does exist in the minds of many. You really want me to go fishing for the numerous games where he has done this to prove my point?
Not to mention, current and former players, including his own teammates (IT and Jae Crowder come to mind), who alluded to this point?
So we acknowledge that prior to 2013 he rarely did it, but disregard the fact that he said he will be doing it from 2013 onward? How does that work?[/QUOTE]
If he did/does go for them? So what? Plenty of other players shoot for statistical achievements across all sports. Shit the guy that got voted no.1 here stat padding unabashedly plenty throughout his career. Lebron went for numbers that helped control a narrative of his play. He's not the 1st or last.