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Marc J. Spears: Jazz say [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanović (right shoulder soreness) & Rudy Gay (right heel surgery) are both out for tomorrow’s game against the Mavericks[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MarcJSpears"]Twitter MarcJSpears[/URL]
Dwain Price: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]For tomorrow’s preseason opener at home against Utah, Jason Kidd said Luka and KP probably will only play in the first half.[/URL] Kidd: “Their minutes have already been slotted, so they’ll play together in the 1st and 2nd quarters.” Tipoff at American Airlines Center is at 7:30 p.m.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/DwainPrice"]Twitter DwainPrice[/URL]
Sarah Todd: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bojan Bogdanovic said he is starting to practice with the Jazz with us week and is not expecting to miss any regular season games.[/URL] May even be back tomorrow but he’s not sure.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/NBASarah"]Twitter NBASarah[/URL]
[url]https://kslsports.com/469466/butler-scores-16-in-debut-jazz-fall-to-spurs/[/url]
[QUOTE]Butler showed off what made him so highly sought after by the Jazz both scoring the ball and on the defensive end. The guard recorded two steals and drew a charge in 20 minutes, highlighting his natural instincts on both ends of the floor.
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sounds like he already defends better than most of the team. Who wants Clarkson?
[QUOTE]However, after a promising start, the rookie may be closer to finding the floor than expected.
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we can only hope. Clarkson needs to go!
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/10/5/22710749/how-good-are-the-utah-jazz-heres-what-nba-gms-think[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz were voted far and away the second-best team in the Western Conference behind the Los Angeles Lakers, receiving 53% of the second-place votes (the Lakers got 80% of the first-place votes, and the Jazz were second with 13%).
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not worried about LA
[QUOTE] [URL="https://www.deseret.com/sports/2021/3/5/22307147/quin-snyder-utah-jazz-all-star-moment-duke-blue-devils-mike-krzyzewski-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert"]Quin Snyder[/URL] was voted the third-best coach in the league behind Miami’s Erik Spoelstra and Phoenix’s Monty Williams. Spoelstra got 55% of the vote, Williams 17% and Snyder 14%.
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:roll:
[QUOTE]Snyder tied with Toronto’s Nick Nurse for fourth place among coaches who make the best in-game adjustments.
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he makes none! :facepalm
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/10/05/utah-jazz-skill-jared-butler-minutes/[/url]
[QUOTE]But so long as head coach [URL="https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2021/10/03/newest-utah-jazz-players/"]Quin Snyder[/URL] continues to call his number often when the regular season begins on Oct. 20, Butler’s staggering shiftiness, smooth trigger, impressive vision, and advanced confidence should confuse defenses regularly. No doubt Utah has sufficient 3-point snipers to consistently drain all the open looks that the floor general’s gifted flow would create.
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offense hasn't been their problem the last two years :facepalm
Duane Rankin: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]#NBATV is no longer televising #Suns final preseason game Oct. 13 against Portland at home. The Bucks-Jazz game in Utah will be televised by NBA TV[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/DuaneRankin"]Twitter DuaneRankin[/URL]
[QUOTE] Andy Larsen: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Injury updates for tonight: Rudy Gobert, Joe Ingles, Mike Conley, Donovan Mitchell are out due to rest[/URL]. Hassan Whiteside is out due to left heel soreness. Bojan Bogdanovic is out due to right shoulder soreness. Rudy Gay out due to offseason heel surgery.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/andyblarsen"]Twitter andyblarsen[/URL]
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Udoka!
[QUOTE] Mirjam Swanson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Is Serge eager to get back? Ty Lue: “He’s very anxious — but we gotta be smart.[/URL] Can’t let the player dictate when they get on the floor, because they’ll get hurt.”
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MirjamSwanson"]Twitter MirjamSwanson[/URL]
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luckily for you the Jazz didn't get that memo
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/10/06/utah-jazz-3-goals-hassan-whiteside/[/url]
don't let Udoka take your job
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50257606/18-ex-nba-players-including-a-former-jazz-guard-charged-in-4m-health-care-fraud-scheme[/url]
[QUOTE]Among those charged was Anthony Allen, a six-time All-Defensive team selection and a member of the 2008 champion Boston Celtics. His wife was also indicted. For the most part, though, the ex-players charged had journeyman careers playing for several different teams and never reached anywhere close to the enormous stardom or salary that top players command. That includes former Jazz guard Milt Palacio, who played one season in Utah in 2005-06.
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Milt sucked!
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50257230/new-defensive-look-jared-butlers-big-night-highlight-utahs-2nd-preseason-contest[/url]
[QUOTE]With Utah missing a good chunk of its core lineup, Snyder was able to experiment with something rarely seen in Utah: a small-ball center. The Jazz started the lineup of Trent Forrest, Jordan Clarkson, Miye Oni, Royce O'Neale and Eric Paschall. And since Paschall isn't known for his rim-protecting prowess, Utah switched everything.
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COTY trying to keep his job?
[QUOTE]There were some rough moments: Clarkson didn't look comfortable guarding in the post, Doncic was just plain mean at times to the Utah B team, and Paschall struggled to keep guards in front of him.
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Clarkson doesn't look comfortable doing anything but dribbling and shooting
[QUOTE]But there was also plenty of good: Oni and Forrest held their own in the post, which allowed them to swarm around ball handlers to create turnovers; and Utah was good in knowing when to go for turnovers and when to stay home, especially when factored in that the team hadn't done this before.
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imagine that. Guys that defend defending and not forcing Rudy to do everything
[QUOTE]So was this a one-off experiment or will we see it again when the games start to count? Gay played some small-ball center when he was with the San Antonio Spurs, and his value to the team is much higher if he can fill a similar role this season. His perimeter defense is also much better than Paschall's, so it stands to reason the Jazz will look better with him in the lineup — and it could provide a much-needed look when the playoffs roll around.
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don't count on it.
[QUOTE]There was another thing that came out of the Jazz sitting a good chunk of their roster: Jared Butler got a lot of playing time. And with apologies to Mitchell, Conley and Gobert, that's what people wanted to see in the preseason, especially with how the rookie has been playing.
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that's what I want to see. My mom and I'm sure many others don't
[QUOTE]Everything seemed easy for Butler. He manipulated defenders with slight hesitation moves to get into the paint to create easy scoring opportunities and he hit defenders with dribble move after dribble move to free up space for a step back 3-pointer. He looked like someone that could contribute right away.
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who wants Clarkson?
[url]https://kslsports.com/469572/butler-hughes-fitts-highlight-jazz-youth-in-loss-to-mavericks/[/url]
[QUOTE]“Sometimes you have to find a fit,” Jazz coach Quin Snyder said of Elijah Hughes’s role. “Going to the offensive glass, running the court, playing defense, rebounding, all those things.”
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why not get someone that actually does those things instead like Brantley, Morgan, Tucker...?
[QUOTE]Fitts signed an Exhibit 10 deal with the Jazz which functions as a training camp invite that allows the team to retain his G League rights should they waive him.
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Clippers G league team has his rights
[QUOTE]Forrest has also struggled with the size of interior defenders after summer league. The guard easily picked apart the slower defenses in Salt Lake City and Vegas by getting into the paint and using floaters to score at the rim. However, the guard has struggled to shoot the ball in preseason including a 3-11 night against the Mavericks.
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shooting is what he will have to get better at. He showed he could play last year but if the other team isn't guarding you it's an issue
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/10/6/22712658/instant-analysis-utah-jazz-go-small-as-starters-and-vets-rest-dallas-mavericks-nba[/url]
[QUOTE]If I had to make a guess about which fringe rotation player was going to get the most opportunity this season, I would say Jared Butler, it wouldn’t even be close and I’d feel pretty confident in my guess. I know that’s it’s just two preseason games, but the kid just looks like he’s farther along than the other players and has the tools that will give him a great career in this league.
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you think? :facepalm
[QUOTE]It’s probably not great news for Forrest that Butler is having a pretty impressive preseason thus far. While the Jazz like Forrest, it’s going to be hard for them to deny minutes to Butler with how much potential Butler has.
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who is it exactly that will lose minutes because of Butler? Clarkson is the obvious choice by maybe COTY's favorite player! Forrest is on a two way. He wasn't expected to play or he'd be on a regular contract. That's how these things work
[QUOTE]When all of the players on the floor are players that are not in the regular rotation, the Jazz’s spacing seems to collapse more often than not. There are a handful of possessions when Oni or Hughes, who have been around for a minute, float out to the wide corners as they are supposed to and they got some open looks that way. But there are way more times that everyone was passing up open looks and then the space incrementally shrunk with each successive pass. It really does help when these guys get time on the floor with the good players on a team who can guide them and correct them and help them. One of my high school basketball coaches used to say, “practice doesn’t make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect.” If you keep practicing but you’re doing things wrong and you aren’t great at those things, then you probably aren’t going to get that much better.
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Oni and Hughes will be open because they can't shoot. Brantley would have done well on the court with their best players. We saw it. Morgan as well
[QUOTE]Players like Hughes, Butler, and even some of the other young players, likely won’t be evaluated based on their ability to score or their offensive abilities. Hughes has improved his shot, he shoots in rhythm and has a good feel for when to attack. Butler is a pure shooter who is really savvy with the ball. What they are able to do on the defensive end is going to be how their growth is evaluated. That’s neither a good thing or a bad thing, just a thing to think about as we’re watching these players. They’re good on the offensive side and we know that. But how good can they be on the other end?
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I'd worry more about Mitchell and the guys that play on that end
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/10/6/22713891/jared-butler-and-elijah-hughes-shine-in-utah-jazz-preseason-loss-to-the-dallas-mavericks[/url]
[QUOTE]The obvious benefit to the small-ball lineup was the spread floor on offense that gave the Jazz good looks. The interesting wrinkle was how effective it was on the defensive end. With Miye Oni and Royce O’neale on the perimeter, Utah looked surprisingly good defensively.
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having one shooter on the floor will get you open looks
[QUOTE]The Jazz had two players really stand out tonight. First, let’s talk about Elijah Hughes. Hughes is a player that has shown real flashes in his short time with the Jazz. Tonight, with a nice amount of play time, he showed more flashes of potential. Hughes scored 11 points on 33% shooting from three while also grabbing 3 rebounds and dishing out 3 assists. The assists might have been the most impressive. Hughes consistently made the right passes to open shooters. He also made some nice plays on defense including this block in transition.
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what flashes? Did I blink?
[QUOTE]Butler, Mitchell and Conley. Run BMC.
I'm having flashbacks to the Thomas, Dumars and Johnson backcourt trio. Almost interchangeable. All could, dribble, pass, shoot, score. 48 minutes of great guard play.
Also, wonder how Butler's play may affect JC's minutes and shots.
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It won't affect Clarkson. COTY loves him
[QUOTE]The Jazz should try playing Whiteside and Gobert at the same time.
On defense, Whiteside covers the paint while Gobert guards the perimeter.
On offense, they switch positions.
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Favors at the 4 is already forgotten? Maybe they can Rubio back too!
[QUOTE]Butler is looking like he could handle the Jazz's starting point guard duties as a rookie--and thrive in that role. With that in mind, the Jazz could get into the Ben Simmons sweepstakes.
Proposed trade: Conley ($21,000,000), Ingles ($13,036,364), O'Neale ($8,800,000) (totaling $42,836,364) for Simmons ($33,003,936), Seth Curry ($8,207,518), Paul Reed ($1,517,981) (totaling $42,728,435). The trade would have to wait until Conley becomes tradeable as a player, after signing a new free-agent contract this off-season.
New Utah lineup:
PG: Butler, Curry, Forrest (2-way)
SG: Mitchell, Clarkson, Hughes
SF: Bogdanovic, Gay, Oni
PF: Simmons, Paschall, Reed
C: Gobert, Whiteside, Azubuike
I'm not sure Philadelphia could get a better offer for Simmons, and Philadelphia could immediately compete for a title in the Eastern Conference with the additions of Conley, Ingles and O'Neale.
It looks like Butler could pretty much replace Conley's production; Simmons could replace O'Neale's defense and then some, and could replace Ingle's ball-handling; and Curry could replace Ingle's shooting. This trade could be a great move for both teams. And, if Quin and his staff could somehow coach Simmons up to shoot 3-point shots at an average rate, the Jazz could be an NBA dynasty for several years to come with the defense provided by Simmons and Gobert, and the offense provided by Mitchell, Bogdanovic, Clarkson, Butler, Curry and Hughes.[/QUOTE]
Simmons makes no sense. Conley was one of the best players in the league last year. Why not get rid of the obvious weak link Clarkson instead of 3 of your best players?