2022 off-season - a big one!

[url]https://kslsports.com/487842/gordon-chiesa-jazz-hire-college-coach/[/url]

[QUOTE]The [URL="https://kslsports.com/487746/jazz-head-coaching-interview-tracker/"]coaching candidates[/URL] linked to the Jazz are mostly who everyone thought, plus a few surprises like former Lakers head coach Frank Vogel and G-League coach Jason Terry.

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why would Vogel be a surprise? He has to be considered one of the most proven guys available. I'd have been surprised if he wasn't on the list. Atkinson and Ham might have been too if COTM had decided earlier or the front office had did what they should have did long ago and fired him! I hadn't thought of Terry but he'll probably be a good coach.

[QUOTE]Ainge has made some unique hires and if he were to lure Wright from retirement that would fit right in with the time he hired Brad Stevens from the college ranks.

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the problem is Stevens is an exception. Most college coaches have sucked in the NBA. Maybe that is changing? The college game is maybe becoming more NBA like so the transition is easier? Now that players are getting paid in college it may even things out going forward for sure

[QUOTE]Okay, here’s the big one. If the Jazz want to persuade Donovan to stay in Utah by competing for titles, keeping Rudy makes the most sense. Trading Rudy with the hope of still contending short-term requires a lot of luck. Trading Rudy will not bring back another top-25 player. And trading Rudy is going to have major ramifications on defense. Maybe Don or Danny Ainge, or other powers-that-be are weighing other factors with winning — they could aim to be competitive enough for the next few years while reshaping the team’s DNA. But that’s a fine line to walk if Donovan is zeroed in on Titles, whether in Utah or elsewhere.

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Mitchell needs to think about playing D and making players around him better. Titles come if you do the work. Talking doesn't win anything as we've seen

[QUOTE]The hope is this: the Jazz give the Rudy and Donovan core one more shot. They nail their trades and signings this season. They get more athletic and bolster their perimeter defense. They may have to mortgage their future a bit — most contenders do. But I still believe a Rudy and Don team with better perimeter defense can contend for a Title. The other part of this hopeful scenario is that a new coach, some fresh faces, and increased winning smoothes over chemistry issues.

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new coach being the key

[QUOTE]If the Jazz can trade Conley, one of Bojan or Clarkson, and the picks from Toronto to get, say Harrison Barnes, and a serviceable starting center… a lineup of Mitchell, Trent Jr., Anunoby, Barnes, and X is intriguing, at the least.

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Clarkson needs to go regardless. Hard to imagine the new coach is going to allow him to do what COTM allowed him to do. Conley needs to go unless Mitchell is dealt and Gobert stays

[QUOTE]Again, let’s say the Jazz are able to convert the additional assets along with Conley for a player like Harrison Barnes and a center. Does a core of Mitchell, Hunter, Barnes, and Collins appeal more than the Toronto variation?

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whichever deal gets expiring contracts and assets is the best one. Trying to win now with Mitchell while trading Gobert? :oldlol:

[QUOTE]The Hornets desperately need a player like Gobert, but the Jazz aren’t bringing back Hayward, and Miles Bridges and Terry Rozier aren’t the type of player Utah needs. PJ Washington and draft picks would be useful to the Jazz, but a deal with Charlotte probably needs a third team.

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who says they aren't bringing back Hayward? Ainge had him. New owners. New front office. New players. The guy is good if overpaid and injury prone. Mitchell has never been as good as Hayward was his last year here. Fans would have to get over it finally! :facepalm

[QUOTE]The Grizzlies could offer Stephen Adams, De’Anthony Melton, and a trove of picks or prospects … which is just, fine? There are likely better offers out there.

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Gobert with Jaren Jackson and Morant! That would be must see tv.

[QUOTE]The Jazz hire Johnnie Bryant. It just makes a lot sense. The organization likes him. His camaraderie with players is what this locker room needs. And his ability to tell Donovan no, while retaining his respect is huge. While Bryant may lack experience, adding a former head coach to his staff could alleviate that.


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not sure anyone can tell Mitchell no when the owner is enamored with him

[QUOTE]The Jazz trade Mike Conley, Rudy Gay, and one of Bojan Bogdanovic or Jordan Clarkson. We’ve talked about Conley’s likely departure. Gay also seems likely to move given how last year went — unless no other teams want him either. Bogey and Clarkson showed up for the Jazz against Dallas, but they both have trade value, and the team simply needs to trade some offense for defense. It may come down to who has a better market.


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Gay just might need a new coach. Not sure anyone else wants him without additional assets after last year

[QUOTE]Next season is better than the last. Look, there are a lot of ways this coming season could go wrong. Losing Quin is going to hurt. Losing Rudy, Mike, Bojan, or Clarkson will hurt. Donovan could demand a trade. I don’t need to list all the reasons. But I’m an optimist, and following a sports team is more enjoyable with some hope. This team has reasons to hope. They have a lot of talent and are just one season removed from having the best record in the league. The team knows what its issues are, and it has tools to fix them. It could be a really fun season! It will be an interesting one at the least — and hey, we’re here to be entertained.


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A new coach and 6th man is going to be a breath of fresh air! Trading a statue would hurt!

[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/whats-next-for-the-jazz-fundamental-issues-trade-ideas-and-reasons-for-hope/[/url]

[QUOTE]In six straight playoff appearances (which is an impressive feat, by the way), the Jazz have failed to push past the second round. The team as we know it has fundamental cracks in the armor. I promised we wouldn’t dwell on the negative here, so suffice it to say that this team simply can’t run it back. If Don and Rudy return, that means a big shakeup with the remaining starters, and probably the bench, too.

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They can run it back because the coach is gone. That is the biggest shakeup you can make outside Gobert and Mitchell. It should have been the obvious move. Star players are hard to come by. You rarely get better by trading them. COTM has been out coached in the last 3 playoffs so I'd hope he is replaceable!

[QUOTE]It’s clear the Jazz are operating with Mitchell at its core, in more ways than one. Nearly every big decision the organization faces ties to Mitchell. For example:

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that will hurt them just like getting Rubio because Hayward said it was ok. At least make decisions based on your best player not the coattail riders. Where was Mitchell and O'Neale after the all star break? That needs to be answered before you build a franchise around a guy that has never shown he can carry one

[QUOTE]The point guard position. Reports say that Donovan will be the starting point guard next season. This has long been the end-game for Mitchell, but its obvious ramification is that Mike Conley will move to the bench or be traded.

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Need more size. I could see a bigger pg too while leaving Mitchell at the 2. Too bad Forrest can't shoot or they'd have their guy

[QUOTE]Mitchell is only 25 years old, and yet has already been to the playoffs five times. He is surrounded by veteran players. Philosophically, the Jazz have to decide to either get younger (and likely worse in the short term), or reshuffle their older players to maximize their current window.

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If Gobert goes all the seasoned vets have to go. They will be bad. Get young players and assets and hope you get someone to carry the franchise in the future. Don't see Mitchell being that guy sorry. Bad D and Iso? Maybe if you're Donic? Not Mitchell

[QUOTE]Before we move on, let’s address a few elephants stomping around the room. One: there are pros and cons to giving a young player like Donovan keys to kingdom, and [URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/snyder-moves-on-but-philosophical-questions-linger/"]Dan Clayton covered a complicated situation with great nuance here[/URL]. Two: last season there was a clear lack of chemistry, and Donovan had some part to play in that. Three: there is the looming threat of Donovan demanding a trade at some point. As fans that have experienced the Gordon Hayward 4th of July, it’s easy to grab our pitchforks. Yes, last season was bad in many ways, and there’s potential for a lot more turmoil. But things can also turn the other direction fast. Look at this season’s Celtics. It was not long ago that Donovan was thought of most for his off-the-court good will, insane playoff performances, and superstar potential. It makes a lot of sense for the Jazz to build around him.

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It makes sense from a marketing perspective and his age. Everyone wants him to be the guy but he never has been. Nothing that has happened on the court should tell anyone that they would be a good team the past 7 years or next year without Gobert though. Without COTM, Mitchell, Hayward, the Wizard sure. Gobert? :facepalm

[QUOTE]Mike Conley had a great year, and a bad series. He remains a top-50 player who makes good things happen when he’s on the court. Here’s the key point: the Jazz lack length and perimeter defense. And this isn’t Mike’s fault — he’s a better defender than Donovan. But if Donovan is staying, it just makes sense to move him to point guard, and replace Mike with a longer defender. Conley could move to the bench, but it feels like a suboptimal use of resources given his salary and trade value. At this point it just seems very likely he’s traded.[/QUOTE]

I could see him off the bench if it wasn't for Butler and to a lesser degree Forrest. Butler is good. He should get a chance to come off the bench this year

[QUOTE]The Knicks could package Julius Randle or Evan Fournier with assets. Randle doesn’t seem ideal, despite being one season removed from 2nd team All-NBA. The Jazz could try to recoup his value for a later trade, or try a 3-team deal. Fournier has length and is a career 38% 3-point shooter at volume. He’s not without flaws, but is the type of player the Jazz could target. The Knicks can also offer a flyer on little-used athlete, Cam Reddish. Or they can attach assets the Jazz can use on another deal.

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Fournier makes some sense if Rudy stays. Not sure it helps the D though. I think Randle could be a great fit with Gobert. He doesn't shoot as well as you'd like but I'm not sure it matters much. He's a playmaking 4. Could thrive with Rudy's rim protection and Mitchell not really being a pg they could use they playmaking from elsewhere. An actual PF starting for Utah! :applause:

[QUOTE]The Clippers are reportedly shopping Marcus Morris, who is another wing that can shoot. It would certainly hurt to help a rival, but what if the Jazz can get Morris and one other wing from LA’s endless supply? Seriously, you could throw a dart blindfolded at their roster and find a useful wing.

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could add some toughness that they lack

[QUOTE]Count me in on team Royce. Oh, he’s also best friends with Donovan, which probably means he’s not going anywhere.

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Yep. Let him play on the wing where he belongs rather off the bench or starting

[QUOTE]Bojan is a tricky case. You can pencil him in for for a reliably efficient 18 points a game. If Mike Conley leaves, his secondary offensive becomes even more important. And while he’s not an athletic defender, he has size. He brought admirable defensive effort in the last two postseasons against both Luka and Kawhi. He’s also 33 and has positive trade value. Bojan’s fate could depend on what other moves are made first and what offers other teams make for him. Here are a few scenarios to consider:

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6th man. He does one thing well. Let him take over Clarkson's role

[QUOTE] The Post has learned the [URL="https://nypost.com/2022/06/11/bulls-could-be-knicks-top-mitchell-robinson-free-agency-competition/"]Bulls are continuing to do their research on Mitchell Robinson ahead of the July 1 free-agency period. The Bulls could be the main competitors for Robinson if the Knicks don’t lock him up to a contract extension on June 30.[/URL] The Bulls want to enhance their interior defense and believe Robinson could be a good fit slotted alongside offensive center Nikola Vucevic. Chicago reportedly has $49 million in cap space but that’s before they commit to free agent Zach Lavine — if they do commit.

– via [URL="https://nypost.com/2022/06/11/bulls-could-be-knicks-top-mitchell-robinson-free-agency-competition/"]Marc Berman @ New York Post[/URL]

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If you can get him you aren't going for Gobert

Shams Charania: Sources: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Bucks are promoting assistant Charles Lee to associate head coach under Mike Budenholzer.[/URL] Lee has been a head coaching candidate for several teams over the past two seasons, and remains a candidate for the Jazz’s current opening. Milwaukee prioritized a new deal for Lee.
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Tony Jones: The [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Utah Jazz interviewed Jason Terry today for their vacant head coaching job,[/URL] League Sources tell The Athletic. Internal candidates Alex Jensen and Lamar Skeeter interviewed for the position this week. The Jazz are continuing with their first round of interviews
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[QUOTE] Jake Fischer on Donovan Mitchell’s reaction to Quin Snyder’s departure: Around the league, [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1hFqTZZMSthkgoaVxasMUG"]people are definitely are interpreting that development as Donovan and his people laying the framework for potential request if the head coaching decision doesn’t go the way they theoretically would want it to go[/URL]

– via [URL="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1hFqTZZMSthkgoaVxasMUG"]Spotify[/URL]

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He needs to go if he's a prima dona!

[QUOTE] JD Shaw: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Jazz are hosting another free-agent mini-camp today and tomorrow.[/URL] Among the players attending: Bruno Caboclo, Denzel Valentine, Frank Bartley, Grant Riller, Jabari Parker, Langston Galloway, Reggie Perry and Sindarius Thornwell.

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Jabari finally in a Jazz uniform! :lol

They obviously liked Valentine. Bartley played locally in college

[URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/a-weekends-worth-of-nba-intel?s=r"]If Utah ends up interviewing more than 20 candidates for its coaching vacancy, no one in the coaching community will be surprised.[/URL] Jazz CEO Danny Ainge loves intel and will surely amass plenty by the time Utah names its successor to Quin Snyder. Utah’s only known candidates with NBA head coaching experience on a list already in the teens are Terry Stotts and Frank Vogel.
– via [URL="https://marcstein.substack.com/p/a-weekends-worth-of-nba-intel?s=r"]Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com[/URL]

[QUOTE] There has been plenty of talk among league personnel that [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10038623-latest-nba-intel-sources-expect-zach-lavine-to-re-sign-with-chicago-bulls"]some combination of Capela, John Collins, Kevin Huerter and the No. 16 pick could be routed to Utah for the three-time Defensive Player of the Year[/URL].

– via [URL="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10038623-latest-nba-intel-sources-expect-zach-lavine-to-re-sign-with-chicago-bulls"]Jake Fischer @ Bleacher Report[/URL]


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this is the kind of deal they need to look at if they must deal their best player. Young guys and assets. Hope you get someone to carry the team again at some point

Shams Charania: The Utah [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jazz are interviewing Philadelphia 76ers assistant Sam Cassell for their open head coaching job,[/URL] sources tell me and @Tony Jones. Cassell was part of the 2008 champion Celtics, constructed by now-Jazz CEO Danny Ainge, and has been an assistant coach since 2009.
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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14620357]this is the kind of deal they need to look at if they must deal their best player. Young guys and assets. Hope you get someone to carry the team again at some point[/QUOTE]

Reckon Ainge would push for Hunter instead of Heurter.. He's not consistent, but has the tools to be a quality perimeter defender. Capela gives you 60% of what Rudy does, but opens up a lot more financial flexibility since he makes half as much.

Adding Hunter in throws off the $, so we could chuck Rudy Gay back into the deal so it's be

Gobert
Gay

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Collins
Capela
Hunter
16th pick

Collins is still iffy defensively and can't create his own offense, but he'll work in a system. Also potentially opens up the opportunity to trade Bogey for a better guard to put next to Mitchell who can run from the 1 spot. Would give you a 5 of

Mitchell
Bogey Trade
Hunter
Collins
Capela

Conley off the bench as your 6th man with Clarkson, O'Neale, Hernangomez, Paschall, Alexander-Walker, Butler, 16th pick and Azibuke.

[QUOTE=El Kabong;14621185]Reckon Ainge would push for Hunter instead of Heurter.. He's not consistent, but has the tools to be a quality perimeter defender. Capela gives you 60% of what Rudy does, but opens up a lot more financial flexibility since he makes half as much.

Adding Hunter in throws off the $, so we could chuck Rudy Gay back into the deal so it's be

Gobert
Gay

For
Collins
Capela
Hunter
16th pick

Collins is still iffy defensively and can't create his own offense, but he'll work in a system. Also potentially opens up the opportunity to trade Bogey for a better guard to put next to Mitchell who can run from the 1 spot. Would give you a 5 of

Mitchell
Bogey Trade
Hunter
Collins
Capela

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Hunter and Young supposedly off limits for Hawks. Huerter has Jazz written all over him.

I like it better without Capela. The Hawks were awful defensively. The Jazz without Gobert are awful defensively. They will lose a lot of games. No seasoned vets unless they are expiring. If you must lose tank properly. Need to draft someone to carry Mitchell and Collins

I think Conley is gone. I can see him off the bench but Butler needs to play and there is Forrest and Nickeil as well. Conley would certainly still will be standing around as Clarkson guns away. Makes little sense to me to keep any of the older guys if Gobert is gone.

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no thanks Mad Max :roll:

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