2022 off season Post Gobert. A new era begins

[QUOTE]Dane Moore: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Tim Connelly said Rudy Gobert had “no shortage of suitors”[/URL] and that the Wolves had a “pretty good sense of the market” it would take to land him. But Connelly also said Utah was “maybe the biggest competitor” — because “this was not a fire-sale” for the Jazz.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/DaneMooreNBA"]Twitter DaneMooreNBA[/URL]





Dane Moore: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Tim Connelly when asked why it was a priority to keep Jaden McDaniels out of the Rudy Gobert trade: “He’s a near perfect fit… We think Jaden can be an All-League defensive player.[/URL] And we just got the best defensive player in the world. So that gets you pretty excited.”
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should be a fire sale now

Lauren Rosen: Also official: Danuel House has signed with the @Philadelphia 76ers. Daryl Morey (@Daryl Morey) on House: [URL="https://*********.com/social/tweets/"]“Danuel is a very talented two-way player who immediately bolsters our wing depth and strengthens our roster… I’m excited for Danuel’s future in Philadelphia.”[/URL]
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[QUOTE] Ryan Miller: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gobert on why he thinks he was traded: “The window for winning is not always big. … I think the organization felt like we had maybe past that window.[/URL] … I think they just felt like with the assets that they could get with me, it was better for them to go that way.”

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Dane Moore: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Tim Connelly speaking glowingly about Rudy Gobert being someone you “know what you’re going get” from — both on the floor and as a person[/URL].
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Dane Moore: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Chris Finch on the Rudy Gobert acquisition: “Perfect fit at the perfect time for our organization.”[/URL]
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Dane Moore: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rudy Gobert: This is “probably the most exciting situation in terms of basketball for me”[/URL].
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Jon Krawczynski: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Gobert: The goal is to win a championship. That’s what I came here to do[/URL].
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Dane Moore: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Chris Finch on making the Rudy Gobert fit thrive: “We’ll need to build a system that is flexible enough”[/URL]
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Dane Moore: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Chris Finch on adding Rudy Gobert to the Timberwolves: “We don’t feel it’s an awkward fit at all.”[/URL]
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Ryan Miller: Rudy Gobert: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“I’m the type of guy that was thinking that it would be cool to spend my whole career in the same place, but also always wondered how cool it would be to get to a new place and in a new system and a new environment.”[/URL]
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thanks Rudy! :bowdown:

better match up tonite. The guys that did well for the Jazz had a ton of turnovers. Caboclo could be a good 3rd center if they go with Udoka and Kessler. Young vet. Still only 26. He looked good except for the turnovers. His wingspan is only a couple inches less than Rudy's! Of course the crowd was chanting for Tacko while Cabolclo was going to work :facepalm

Watching a Utah based sports talk show where they've said the Bulls and Jazz had a deal in place for Gobert until the KD news came out and the Bulls pulled out.

Deal was

Gobert

For
Vucevic
Williams
White
3 1st round picks

I know they ended up getting a ton of picks from the T'Wolves, but all the talk was the Bulls wouldn't even trade Vuc and Williams for Gobert, so not sure how the 3 1sts got added too.

[QUOTE=El Kabong;14634985]Watching a Utah based sports talk show where they've said the Bulls and Jazz had a deal in place for Gobert until the KD news came out and the Bulls pulled out.

Deal was

Gobert

For
Vucevic
Williams
White
3 1st round picks

I know they ended up getting a ton of picks from the T'Wolves, but all the talk was the Bulls wouldn't even trade Vuc and Williams for Gobert, so not sure how the 3 1sts got added too.[/QUOTE]

didn't want Vuc. Minny is the better deal and the better team. ANT >LaVine

Jazz owner [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34203442/center-rudy-gobert-says-ready-win-championship-minnesota-timberwolves"]Ryan Smith said Gobert “will forever be a part of us.”[/URL] “Rudy Gobert had a huge impact on this franchise and the entire state of Utah during his nine seasons with the Jazz,” Smith said. “One of the greatest defensive players in NBA history, Rudy will forever be considered one of the most significant players to wear a Jazz uniform. His love for and impact on this community are impossible to overstate.”
– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34203442/center-rudy-gobert-says-ready-win-championship-minnesota-timberwolves"]ESPN News Services @ ESPN[/URL]

Windy eventually ended up looking like a profit when Utah dealt All-Star center Rudy Gobert. And now for the first time since his clip went viral, he addressed the reaction to it on his podcast. It helped that it was a holiday weekend, there wasn’t a lot of activity, all that contributed to it. It really became more popular as a meme than actually what I said. Look, I knew the Jazz were pretty close to trading Rudy Gobert. To be honest with you, part of what I was doing was trying to avoid aggregation. … In this world of aggregation, [URL="https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/look-brian-windhorst-explains-viral-utah-jazz-speculation"]I have to get more creative because you get pinned down on sometimes four words. You say 700 words and you get pinned down to four words,[/URL]
– via [URL="https://thespun.com/more/top-stories/look-brian-windhorst-explains-viral-utah-jazz-speculation"]Daniel Bates @ The Spun[/URL]

[QUOTE]"Rudy Gobert had a huge impact on this franchise and the entire state of Utah during his nine seasons with the Jazz," Utah Jazz owner Ryan Smith said in a statement. "One of the greatest defensive players in NBA history, Rudy will forever be considered one of the most significant players to wear a Jazz uniform. His love for and impact on this community are impossible to overstate. He fully embraced this state, especially through his Rudy's Kids Foundation. Rudy will forever be a part of us. We wish him all the best in this next stage of his career. Once a Jazzman, always a Jazzman."

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one of? Malone, Stockton and Gobert. It's a short list :bowdown:

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/07/07/utah-jazz-pay-tribute-departing-star/[/url]

[QUOTE]With Mitchell now the clear face of the Jazz franchise and a [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2022/07/06/will-hardy-shines-in-first-press-conference-as-utah-jazz-head-coach/"]new head coach in town[/URL], this team has a bright future and plenty of potential for the next era in Jazz franchise history, but these tributes show just how fondly remembered Rudy Gobert will in the hearts of Utah Jazz fans and the front office.

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no reason to think the future is bright. You need a great player to carry a team. They just traded him!

NBA Central: Donovan Mitchell is unlikely to request a trade, per ESPN’s Brian Windhorst [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“On Mitchell’s side, he’s going to stand pat. He’s not going to force any action right now.”[/URL] pic.twitter.com/JFlvRikZCf
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Donovan Mitchell: [URL="https://*********.com/social/tweets/"]Circle got smaller everybody can’t go [/URL]

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[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/timberwolves-rejected-huge-kevin-durant-221450943.html[/url]

[QUOTE]That is a lot to ask for Durant and that is why the future Hall of Famer has to seriously consider his options. If the Timberwolves said yes to that deal, then Durant would join a team with just Gobert and D’Angelo Russell as the main pieces along with himself. They would lose a lot of depth and a lot of star power in that move. While they would certainly make the playoffs, a title would be extremely tough.

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They would be one of the best teams in the league and legit contenders. Be tough to trade ANT though!

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2022/7/7/23199275/utah-jazz-trade-rumors-is-another-trade-coming-for-the-utah-jazz-donovan-mitchell-rudy-gobert[/url]

[QUOTE]On the July 4 edition of [URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jon-krawczynski-and-tim-bontemps/id986595124?i=1000568784985"]The Lowe Post podcast[/URL], ESPN’s Zach Lowe and Tim Bontemps suggested that Mike Conley and Bojan Bogdanovic are players that no longer fit the current iteration of the Jazz.

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Clarkson, Gay. Beverley and Beasley. They said during the 2nd summer league game that the reason there was no press conference for the new guys yet is because some of them won't be here long. Beasley was at that game so maybe he's staying?

[QUOTE]“They clearly have to make more moves,” Bontemps added. “... The Rudy Gobert move isn’t the only move you make. This team was built around Rudy Gobert’s skill sets.”

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never built well. Exum /Burke at the 1. Fossils Diaw and Johnson at the 4. Hood starting. Favors and Rubio spotting up in the corner. Expect 1 guy to cover everyone. A coach that refuses to adjust in the playoffs. Wasted his whole career!

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2022/7/7/23199777/utah-jazz-fall-to-the-memphis-grizzlies-in-final-game-of-salt-lake-city-summer-league[/url]

[QUOTE]The other player that’s been impressive is Xavier Sneed. Sneed has some nice tools with his athleticism and ideal size for a wing, and he’s looking like his shot has improved. You can see why the Jazz have had him on the team. The hope would be that Sneed continues to develop and can be a consistent contributor for the Jazz as they look for more talent to fill the roster for the upcoming season.

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Not sure his length but he's 6'5. Not ideal. He seems pretty raw. Plays with a lot of energy. Bit out of control. He might be worth having around. We'll see

[QUOTE]The current Jazz roster is lottery bound, so if they either have to make some more moves to be competitive or they should trade Mitchell and go full rebuild. Holding onto Mitchell while going to the lottery doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]

Makes sense to me. Tank this year. Great draft in 2023. Get under the cap. See if anyone else emerges to build around. Look to bring in another young star with cap space or hope one develops. If Mitchell doesn't like it see ya!

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Donovan doesn’t want to be part of a rebuild and I don’t blame him. Conley and Bogey would be redundant to our plan.



We start rebuilding through the draft. Try like hell to get the 1st overall pick and get Wembanyama. The 7’3 Frenchman who they say is the best prospect in decades. Better than Chet Holmgren or a couple other options could help start the rebuild.



We have some major money to spend on Free Agency and we go after young guys with potential. Solid defenders.



Danny Ainge knows what to do. He’s already done it very successfully.

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Why doesn't Mitchell? If not for Gobert Mitchell would have likely been playing on a crappy team for years like most lottery picks. Let's see him carry a crappy team like Gobert did. Exum and Burke at the 1! Seriously? :bowdown:

[QUOTE]Finding and developing all-stars in a small market is hard. Don is clearly an all star, and was borderline all NBA this past season (7th in all NBA voting for guards). While I don't think he can be the best player on a championship team, I do think the team is best set up for future success keeping him, rather than moving him for pieces.



I also think it's underrated how much vets can help player development. We've seen recently how young players in MIA and PHO took big jumps with the arrival of Jimmy and CP3 (respectively). So while I expect some of Mike, Bogey, JC, Pat Bev to be moved...I would also expect (hope) some would remain. Even if that means, from an asset play, we don't maximize value, I think for team culture and player development it'll be helpful. [/QUOTE]

he was borderline all NBA before he disappeared after the all star game. Seriously why is this not the main thing being talked about? What happened? Don't need any of those guys to remain. Cheap young vets like Caboclo will do

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2022/07/07/utah-jazz-juzang-cockburn-listed-best-signings/[/url]

Cockburn did look good last night and Butler finally went off after a slow start.