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[QUOTE=RRR3;15008616]Patty's dim :([/QUOTE]
As I was saying, a lot of you support murder.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15008619]As I was saying, a lot of you support murder.[/QUOTE]
Yawn, all you can do is make things emotional, no rational debating ever. Not interested. Come back with better.
[QUOTE=RRR3;15008634]Yawn, all you can do is make things emotional, no rational debating ever. Not interested. Come back with better.[/QUOTE]
I basically gave you receipts of you justifying murder or rationalizing it after you said that no one here was. You then proceed to call me dim because you got caught lying, and you want to have a rational debate?? :oldlol:
No I explained the difference in the reactions people had and why it was that way. Nowhere did I say murder is justified, you are putting words in my mouth.
[QUOTE=RRR3;15008645]No I explained the difference in the reactions people had and why it was that way. Nowhere did I say murder is justified, you are putting words in my mouth.[/QUOTE]
You said, and I quote: "Sure you can argue killing is wrong"
You cannot argue over something that will always be wrong, no matter what. By you saying what you said, you're allowing yourself and the other readers to find an avenue in which one could argue that killing is somehow morally justified.
Let's be clear, the only acceptable time where you would be in a place to kill someone is if your own very life was in danger. This Mangione clown thought he was a vigilante or some kind of freedom fighter. His life was never in danger from UH's CEO. He shot him in the back for fame, and now he's going to spend the rest of his life in jail.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15008649]You said, and I quote: "Sure you can argue killing is wrong"
You cannot argue over something that will always be wrong, no matter what. By you saying what you said, you're allowing yourself and the other readers to find an avenue in which one could argue that killing is somehow morally justified.
Let's be clear, the only acceptable time where you would be in a place to kill someone is if your own very life was in danger. This Mangione clown thought he was a vigilante or some kind of freedom fighter. His life was never in danger from UH's CEO. He shot him in the back for fame, and now he's going to spend the rest of his life in jail.[/QUOTE]
Would killing Netanyahu be wrong, fats?
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15008514]I don't know the perfect system. But I do know, and you seem to agree, that the current model is fvcked up. That's a start.
Enough people speaking up about this can affect actual change amongst people way smarter than I am.
Off the top of my head though, could treat insurance companies as federal franchise programs run by government-paid (handsomely paid) executives. They must adhere to a specific set of regulations regarding claim payment and premium pricing, but how they go about it from an overhead, marketing, headcount standpoint is completely up to them. There could be quarterly reports/audits and all they would have to do stay running is to break even, and because of a set wage for these individuals there is no incentive to increase profits further.
I don't know. Just off the top of my head. Of course more thought on that would have to be put in.[/QUOTE]
Sorry but this answer isn't going to cut it. You're over here making all kinds of accusations about all kinds of people, how people are selfish for supporting the current system and blah blah... but you offer no viable solution of your own.
How the hell is an insurance company supposed to put away reserves for future payouts if they aren't allowed to operate on profit? You're over here complaining that they don't pay out enough claims but at the same time you want to cut them at the knees financially? You sound almost as ridiculous as 3tard here.
I mean how are these companies supposed to reinvest into the businesses? How can they ever improve or innovate if the government is regulating every penny they earn?
Also, if the insurance companies are run by government officials, nothing changes. Those execs still have to stay under budget and make cuts all the same. What, you think the government is just gonna let them give away all the money? Of course not, they're gonna cut back on services as well because they have to stay solvent. At least a privately owned company is beholden to the paying customer and not the government.
I really don't think you thought this through. I think like most progressive woke leftists, you're striving for an impossible utopia that could never exist and isn't practical.
[QUOTE=Overdrive;15008530]A bit ironic, that you rightwingers attacked big pharma during covid for manipulating the public, but it's absolute ok that a insurance company lobby implemented a narrative that m4a is communism. Atleast be some sort of coherent.[/QUOTE]
WTF does being against big pharma have to do with supporting medicare for all? :oldlol:
3tard is a shoe-in for Most Retarded Poster (MRP), but you're definitely making a strong case for All-Retard 1st Team on ISH.
[QUOTE=RRR3;15008651]Would killing Netanyahu be wrong, fats?[/QUOTE]
If someone went up to Netanyahu and killed him, yes, it would be wrong.
[QUOTE=RRR3;15008511]You realized that source included a Koch funded institute study that found it would save us money yes? Do you think the Kochs are commies?[/QUOTE]
Dude, just stop.
You've already shown an alarming amount of ignorance. The fact that you even thought it was possible for billionaires to fund our way of life for every citizen, the fact that you even spoke it into existence in an honest attempt to sound intelligent... maybe you should show some humility and sit the fukk down.
Maybe you don't have all the answers and you should stop pretending you're this enlightened thinker who's better and more compassionate than everyone.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15008662]If someone went up to Netanyahu and killed him, yes, it would be wrong.[/QUOTE]
Why? He's committing a genocide. He's on the same moral level as someone like Pol Pot. Monsters.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15008663]Dude, just stop.
You've already shown an alarming amount of ignorance. The fact that you even thought it was possible for billionaires to fund our way of life for every citizen, the fact that you even spoke it into existence in an honest attempt to sound intelligent... maybe you should show some humility and sit the fukk down.
Maybe you don't have all the answers and you should stop pretending you're this enlightened thinker who's better and more compassionate than everyone.[/QUOTE]
You wrote a lot to deflect from the fact that you can't refute that m4A is better than our current system and would save us money :lol
You are incapable of ceding a point, another sign of sociopathy....
[QUOTE=Baller234;15008653]Sorry but this answer isn't going to cut it. You're over here making all kinds of accusations about all kinds of people, how people are selfish for supporting the current system and blah blah... but you offer no viable solution of your own.
How the hell is an insurance company supposed to put away reserves for future payouts if they aren't allowed to operate on profit? You're over here complaining that they don't pay out enough claims but at the same time you want to cut them at the knees financially? You sound almost as ridiculous as 3tard here.
I mean how are these companies supposed to reinvest into the businesses? How can they ever improve or innovate if the government is regulating every penny they earn?
Also, if the insurance companies are run by government officials, nothing changes. Those execs still have to stay under budget and make cuts all the same. What, you think the government is just gonna let them give away all the money? Of course not, they're gonna cut back on services as well because they have to stay solvent. At least a privately owned company is beholden to the paying customer and not the government.
I really don't think you thought this through. I think like most progressive woke leftists, you're striving for an impossible utopia that could never exist and isn't practical.[/QUOTE]
For starters..I don't really think you understood the point of what I just said. Is my literal two minute off the dome proposal going to cover the entire scope of this? Of course not. Good on you for missing the point, as you have a talent for doing. I said, and I quote (thank you thank you):
[QUOTE]I don't know the perfect system. But I do know, and you seem to agree, that the current model is fvcked up. That's a start.
Enough people speaking up about this can affect actual change amongst people way smarter than I am.[/QUOTE]
So whatever. I don't fvcking know dude but it's not really a utopian thing either. Specific systematic model changes have occurred. I'm not saying tear the whole government down or some shit.
[QUOTE]Also, if the insurance companies are run by government officials, nothing changes. Those execs still have to stay under budget and make cuts all the same. What, you think the government is just gonna let them give away all the money?[/QUOTE]
Missing the point again. I could go back and forth with constructive edits to what I initially said..but what good would that do with you.
[QUOTE=RRR3;15008666]You wrote a lot to deflect from the fact that you can't refute that m4A is better than our current system and would save us money :lol
You are incapable of ceding a point, another sign of sociopathy....[/QUOTE]
We should fund m4a with the money tree in Warren Buffet's tomato garden, and we should keep a huge bucket in front of Jeff Bezos's mansion to collect all the money that falls from the sky.
I'm being sarcastic of course but this is actually 3tard's brilliant plan to fund universal healthcare. :oldlol: