Steroids in the NBA

[QUOTE=000;14435136]Everyone is on steroids. Even rashard lewis and hedo turkoglu were[/QUOTE]

Not everyone, don’t be stupid.

[QUOTE=eliteballer;14435174]Not everyone, don’t be stupid.[/QUOTE]
Yes everyone, dont be naive

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You need some serious therapy and the mods should be ashamed of themselves... and this is coming from someone that believes LeBron is a juicer.

Your life must be complete and utter shit. I am sorry.

[QUOTE=Shogon;14436792]You need some serious therapy and the mods should be ashamed of themselves... and this is coming from someone that believes LeBron is a juicer.

Your life must be complete and utter shit. I am sorry.[/QUOTE]

Glad to know your no longer in denial :D

[QUOTE=eliteballer;14436952]Glad to know your no longer in denial :D[/QUOTE]

I legitimately don't think I've ever believed that LeBron was 100% clean, and if I did think this, I thought it super early on in his career... so maybe like 15 years ago? lol.

There is no "no longer in denial" going on here. You are making arguments with yourself. I want you to show me a quote where I said that LeBron isn't on PEDs.

LeBron is juicing... and if he's not, I'd be shocked.

That being said? It's extremely clear that he was an athletic freak before he came into the league... unless you think he was doping at 14 and 15 years old, lmao...

Both statements are true. 1) LeBron is one of the biggest athletic freaks in NBA history. 2) He's a PED abuser.

I see now. You must confuse "if it comes out that he's juicing" with "shogon thinks he isn't juicing." That's not what that means... it means that I don't think that it's ever coming out.

I'm sure the NBA knows and I'm sure the NBA turns their head the other way because a story of that magnitude would set the league back for a decade or two, despite the fact that a substantial number of NBA players are on PEDs... LeBron doing this specifically must not see the light of day.

I really really don't think that story ever comes out.

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Bump. We need at least three topics about this... daily.

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Some good stuff coming tonight.

If people think there is no testing in professional sports you don't have a clue.

[QUOTE=hateraid;14484594]If people think there is no testing in professional sports you don't have a clue.[/QUOTE]

You'd think that a player who uses steroids wouldn't have chosen to play in any Olympics with their extensive testing, let alone 3 Olympics.
The irony is that there is way more testing today than back in the days of the players LeBron haters are stanning.

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[QUOTE=TheGoatest;14484864]You'd think that a player who uses steroids wouldn't have chosen to play in any Olympics with their extensive testing, let alone 3 Olympics.
The irony is that there is way more testing today than back in the days of the players LeBron haters are stanning.[/QUOTE]

You mean the testing which is always behind two steps of designer drugs?

[QUOTE=Baller789;14484875]You mean the testing which is always behind two steps of designer drugs?[/QUOTE]

I mean testing as in attempt to catch the perpetrators, as opposed to the old days when zero damns were given.
Why was Lance Armstrong caught? The kajillions he made when he was at the top and one of the most popular athletes in the world weren't enough to pay for "untraceable designer drugs"?

[QUOTE=TheGoatest;14484864]You'd think that a player who uses steroids wouldn't have chosen to play in any Olympics with their extensive testing, let alone 3 Olympics.
The irony is that there is way more testing today than back in the days of the players LeBron haters are stanning.[/QUOTE]

100%
I have to familiarize myself with doping rules since I run a supplement company. ALL professional sports test. We sponsored Joe Flacco when I was with Dymatize and he can even confirm that he'd get randomly tested even in the off season. The same goes for NBA players. There is no steroids in prefossional sports.

[QUOTE=Baller789;14484875]You mean the testing which is always behind two steps of designer drugs?[/QUOTE]

Lance Armstrong took a drug that increases oxygen capacity. Something entirely different from steroids. It was a gray area product. At the time there was probably not enough information on the product to put on the banned substance list. And no, you cannot defeat IOC testing with how strict it is today. This is not the Ben Johnson 80's. You don't have a clue if you think you can.

[QUOTE=hateraid;14484928]100%
I have to familiarize myself with doping rules since I run a supplement company. ALL professional sports test. We sponsored Joe Flacco when I was with Dymatize and he can even confirm that he'd get randomly tested even in the off season. The same goes for NBA players. There is no steroids in prefossional sports.[/QUOTE]

No peds in professional sports? Your a colossal tool:roll:

Aren’t you the guy who worked for in the sports nutrition industry and was always schilling for their products.

[QUOTE=eliteballer;14485009]No peds in professional sports? Your a colossal tool:roll:[/QUOTE]

At the pro level no. You're a fool to believe it. I work with pro athletes. The get tested constantly

[QUOTE=eliteballer;14485015]Aren’t you the guy who worked for in the sports nutrition industry and was always schilling for their products.[/QUOTE]

Ah yes. The go to response for the ignorant. "GNC, derp derp derp"
So a keyboard warrior has more insight than a guy who's been in the industry for 25 years. I own my own Nutrtion company now. But thanks for noticing!

Keep using the shcill schtick. That really puts me in my place!

[QUOTE=hateraid;14485062]Ah yes. The go to response for the ignorant. "GNC, derp derp derp"
So a keyboard warrior has more insight than a guy who's been in the industry for 25 years. I own my own Nutrtion company now. But thanks for noticing!

Keep using the shcill schtick. That really puts me in my place![/QUOTE]

The fact that you claim to be knowledgeable and sit there and say sports drug testing is adequate when professionals in that field of work say otherwise, shows how delusional you are in and of itself.

[QUOTE=eliteballer;14485065]The fact that you claim to be knowledgeable and sit there and say sports drug testing is adequate when professionals in that field of work say otherwise, shows how delusional you are in and of itself.[/QUOTE]

I know my credibility. I've been in the industry for 25 years and personally witnessed drug testing and IOC testing. You have minimal knowledge of basketball on a basketball forum as opposed to the sports testing world. I don't need your approval. :roll:
I've made millions now in this industry and own my own nutrition company. No bum with shit knowledge on a basketball forum is gonna change that.

So sit your ass down rookie. No need to talk out your ass more.

Elitebum is probably gonna bring up Barry Bonds on Androstene to prove his weak ass case.

Go get it buddy! You know what you're talking about!

[QUOTE=TheGoatest;14484881]I mean testing as in attempt to catch the perpetrators, as opposed to the old days when zero damns were given.
Why was Lance Armstrong caught? The kajillions he made when he was at the top and one of the most popular athletes in the world weren't enough to pay for "untraceable designer drugs"?[/QUOTE]

Back then? Yes.
Now, not so much.
I mean was Pacquiao who was constantly bombarded by Mayweather for PED allegations never tested positive. Heck Floyd himself got caught with an illegal IV, and nothing happened. :lol

[QUOTE=Baller789;14485098]Back then? Yes.
Now, not so much.
I mean was Pacquiao who was constantly bombarded by Mayweather for PED allegations never tested positive. Heck Floyd himself got caught with an illegal IV, and nothing happened. :lol[/QUOTE]

Everything is speculative and subjective to what they are actually taking. Ephedra is on the banned substance list but people take pseudoephedrine in the common cold medication. Why hasn't there been any reported cases of steroid use in the NBA? In the age where IG and advantageous greedy people exist? Because there is no real cases. Kobe couldn't hide from a rape accusation. If athletes like Lebron were actually doing it they would have been outed a long time ago