Michael Jordan Anti-clutch Log

BTW, I love how perfectly legitimate things like "Kareem has a strong argument for GOAT" or "Bird deserved the '88 MVP" or "Hakeem deserved the 1988 DPOY" are in some roundabout way implying "Kobe > Jordan". Kobe and Jordan comparisons are old news. Only time you can really compare the two is when Kobe plays well for a decent stretch (like 50-60 games he has as #1 option in playoffs, and that's only scoring too), but MJ's consistency, overall production are no match. Kobe has had stretches in his career where he has been "Jordanesque" (and Jordan fans seem to take this as Kobe = Jordan), but Jordan did it for a decade. Kobe? A couple of playoff rounds.

Just because you think Jordan has a very overrated reputation on the internet (especially in comparison to players like Kareem, Wilt, Bird etc. Most of his fans on ISH are dumb and ignorant as hell too. read the posts of bruceblitz, juju, nbastatman, lbj23clutch, duncanmvp etc etc), it doesn't mean everything is connected to Kobe. You're more obssessed with him than his groupies :oldlol:

This whole "poster X has an agenda against player Y because he doesn't agree with me" is petty, and I am not going to respond to any of these repetitive, non basketball related posts again. Already wasted enough time on these obtuse clowns.

[QUOTE=Fatal9]BTW, I love how perfectly legitimate things like "Kareem has a strong argument for GOAT" or "Bird deserved the '88 MVP" or "Hakeem deserved the 1988 DPOY" are in some roundabout way implying "Kobe > Jordan". Kobe and Jordan comparisons are old news. Only time you can really compare the two is when Kobe plays well for a decent stretch (like 50-60 games he has as #1 option in playoffs, and that's only scoring too), but MJ's consistency, overall production are no match. Kobe has had stretches in his career where he has been "Jordanesque" (and Jordan fans seem to take this as Kobe = Jordan), but Jordan did it for a decade. Kobe? A couple of playoff rounds.

Just because you think Jordan has a very overrated reputation on the internet (especially in comparison to players like Kareem, Wilt, Bird etc. Most of his fans on ISH are dumb and ignorant as hell too. read the posts of bruceblitz, juju, nbastatman, lbj23clutch, duncanmvp etc etc), it doesn't mean everything is connected to Kobe. You're more obssessed with him than his groupies :oldlol:

This whole "poster X has an agenda against player Y because he doesn't agree with me" is petty, and I am not going to respond to any of these repetitive, non basketball related posts again. Already wasted enough time on these obtuse clowns.[/QUOTE]
LOL You make a thread about hakeem and bring up MJ. You make a thread about Pippen and then say MJ is lucky to have Pippen?? WTF did Mj did have to do with any of those threads?? Everyone can see through your agenda. Just because you made one threads a long time ago saying MJ>>Kobe means noting. You still can't prove how Bird deserved the MVP over MJ in 88 or Hakeem DPOTY

Your whole arguememnt was that Hakeem Defensive player ratings, but yet i don't see you complaining about Gary payton/Ron artest winning it. Centers are more likly to have a better defensive rating.

Speak English clown :oldlol:

LOL at my "only" argument being defensive rating when I included that in maybe a sentence or a post. Weren't Jordan fans the one saying "200 steals and 100 blocks" is the reason he should have won DPOY? They sure love talking out of their ass. I bet none of them watched a single Hakeem game that season, or watched more than youtube highlights of Jordan that season. No reasonable, rational person thinks '87-'88 Jordan was as effective defensively as Hakeem and Mark Eaton.

[QUOTE=Fatal9]Speak English clown :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
LOL I thought you had me on ignore Faktal.:lol

[QUOTE=Fatal9]Speak English clown :oldlol:

LOL at my "only" argument being defensive rating when I included that in maybe a sentence or a post. Weren't Jordan fans the one saying "200 steals and 100 blocks" is the reason he should have won DPOY? They sure love talking out of their ass. I bet none of them watched a single Hakeem game that season, or watched more than youtube highlights of Jordan that season. No reasonable, rational person thinks '87-'88 Jordan was as effective defensively as Hakeem and Mark Eaton.[/QUOTE]
Ok lets say i agree with your logic. WHo should of won DPOTY in 96/04?? MJ was one of the best defensive players in 88 which is why he won DPOTY.

FATAL LOGIC HERE



MJ isn't the greatest if you don't count his first 13 seasons..........:roll:

[QUOTE=Fatal9]I go through bruceblitze's Pippen is overrated thread and he omits 1994 completely. But yea, he doesn't use selective stats, what freaking hypocrites. And I've watched the games and know one good game can skew stats, which why from time to time I outline and say that I'm taking one, maybe two, games out to show for most of the series he was shut down. It's the same thing when someone tells me Kobe had a good series against the Rockets, when he really didn't. These crappy know-nothing posters like nbastatman, juju, lbj23clutch and rest of their like actually expect me to reply to their garbage ass posts which half the time I can't even understand? :oldlol:

:oldlol: at people taking this as a Jordan is not clutch thread when everyone knows he is the clutchest to ever play the game. That's not something anyone can even argue but I guess I am not calling Jordan infallible...which translates to hating? I say Jordan didn't deserve '88 DPOY and see the same post from the biggest bulls fan and the most knowledgeable guy on this forum? There's nothing against Jordan, really, it's his fans that are annoying as hell. [B]Kobe fans were like this a couple of years ago[/B], but lately (probably because of the flood of youtube videos of him in that time span) Jordan fans are easily the most irritating.[/QUOTE]



KOBE FANS WERE LIKE THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.... :violin:

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]At least Bruce wrote the facts.. He used stats... Fatal uses selective stats ...
EXAMPLE


Mj shot 39 percent if you exclude games 2,3 and 5.... LOL...:lol .... This FATAL is a joke...

If Bruce ever used Selective stats like this Fatal does even us Jordan fans would not condone....:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Dude, your a double-standard f*cking joke....GTFO saying Bruce doesn't use selective stats....Have you ever even seen his post??...He cherry picks every negative thing Kobe has done...Then you come and suck him off by saying..."So what if he only used the negative ones, they are still facts"

But once someone uses "Cherry picking aka SELECTIVE STATS" against Jordan, now you realize that even though they are facts, they are selective ones...

Lets get to the real deal...You don't give a sh!t if it's done to Kobe...If it's done to Kobe, "Well, its still facts"...But if it's done to MJ, then it's hating.

Your probably the same type of guy who gets pissed at Kobe for pushing Gasol's head on the bench, and call Kobe a terrible teamate for that...But once we show you how MJ punched his teamate in the eye and blacked it, you say, "Well, MJ is a competitor, and he's just pushing his teamate, ultimate winner"...

My god you poster are the most hypocritical dumb f*cks...

[QUOTE=Fatal9]He copied and pasted that....no need to applaud...

[url]http://wiltfan.tripod.com/wiltrules.html[/url][/QUOTE]

lol exposed

[QUOTE=catch24]lol exposed[/QUOTE]
As if the italics were meaningless. I've linked to that site before in the Charles Barkley thread. Alas, without the name "Jordan" or "Bryant" in the title, you probably didn't click on it. You guys try to hard. Best be to promote thou efforts elsewhere.

[QUOTE=branslowski]Dude, your a double-standard f*cking joke....GTFO saying Bruce doesn't use selective stats....Have you ever even seen his post??...He cherry picks every negative thing Kobe has done...Then you come and suck him off by saying..."So what if he only used the negative ones, they are still facts"

But once someone uses "Cherry picking aka SELECTIVE STATS" against Jordan, now you realize that even though they are facts, they are selective ones...

Lets get to the real deal...You don't give a sh!t if it's done to Kobe...If it's done to Kobe, "Well, its still facts"...But if it's done to MJ, then it's hating.

Your probably the same type of guy who gets pissed at Kobe for pushing Gasol's head on the bench, and call Kobe a terrible teamate for that...But once we show you how MJ punched his teamate in the eye and blacked it, you say, "Well, MJ is a competitor, and he's just pushing his teamate, ultimate winner"...

My god you poster are the most hypocritical dumb f*cks...[/QUOTE]


You are the guy who has called FATAL a good poster... Shutup...


As for Kobe I won't defend him as a person that is the truth.. But if I saw someone write something about his game that I didnt' agree with I would back him... I have done it in the past.. As far as Bruce goes I have also blasted him in the past for harping on kobe.. Even after Kobe won the title Bruce harped on him and I wrote a negative post about Bruce.... You can look it up if you want to ....


As for selective , I am sure no one gets close to FATAL and his


[B]IF you don't count games 2,3, and 5 than MJ shot 39 percent..... [/B]

The fact that you can back this faker just shows exactly what kind of poster you are......... [B]At least Bruce never denied being a huge MJ F[/B]AN...

[QUOTE=Abraham Lincoln]As if the italics were meaningless. I've linked to that site before in the Charles Barkley thread. Alas, without the name "Jordan" or "Bryant" in the title, you probably didn't click on it. You guys try to hard. Best be to promote thou efforts elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

Don't get thy panties in a bunch Abe :violin:

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]



The fact that you can back this faker just shows exactly what kind of poster you are......... [B]At least Bruce never denied being a huge MJ F[/B]AN...[/QUOTE]


Well for one...Me vs You Poster wise, there is no Debate...Me>>>>You.

I also call Loki a good poster (even though he has bias against Kobe, and is a Jordan nut hugger) and you back him all the time...

Look, f*ck it...I should have never jumped in this "Is Fatal a good poster or not" BS....Because you, Juju, and lbjclutch, are on some kind of Elementary Kid sh!t going around telling ppl not to be cool with Fatal..."Because he doesn't suck MJ's dick to our liking"...

Lame.

[QUOTE=Fatal9]The difference in pace would have little to no effect on Kareem's scoring numbers (half the time he didn't even cross the half court line when Oscar or someone else would push the ball). In a slower pace, you usually have a more structured offense and the superstar as a result ends up getting just as many touches, if not more (current Cavs system is a good example). [B]PER is a flawed and BS statistic[/B]. [B][B]The only time I use it is when comparing Kobe with someone like say Hakeem. [/B][/B]Why? Because everyone knows Hakeem at his peak was more dominant but PER tells us otherwise, and it points out the hypocrisy of the same people who say MJ is unquestionably the best because of PER (who then try to dismiss it as being useless when it works in someone else's favor). PER tells me Wade had the greatest finals performance ever, which is a joke considering it probably wasn't even top 15 by my count. It's a useless statistic that is used by ignorant fans. Also, Kareem's 4-5 blocks in his peak season also don't go towards "PER". Using PER to supposedly end an argument is an excellent way to show you know d!ck all.[/QUOTE]


Fatal comment , I believe this was written after the Game one of the finals.. Kobe was great that night....


[B] Kobe's PER right now is higher than Jordan's in '92, '96, '97 and could pass '98. That's four out of the six championship years.[/B]


Fatal comment after Kobe's PER goes down a bit, still a great performance by kobe bryant in the finals and playoffs.. One of the best so far from a guard....

[B]PER is a flawed and BS statistic[/B]

Why didn't you bold this part of my post? Do you read only what you want to read?

[QUOTE=Fatal9][B]The only time I use it is when comparing Kobe with someone like say Hakeem. Why? Because everyone knows Hakeem at his peak was more dominant but PER tells us otherwise, and it points out the hypocrisy of the same people who say MJ is unquestionably the best because of PER (who then try to dismiss it as being useless when it works in someone else's favor).[/B][/QUOTE]

You're really reaching eh. Searching up old threads and everything. Nice to know a stranger named fatal9 is on your mind this fine afternoon :oldlol:

I hope that post wasn't toward me statman because I really don't give a sh!t anymore about how much of a meany Fatal9 is...

Anyway, using common sense (which most doesn't have) he's saying he doesn't like PER, but, some MJ fans seem to use it to Kill other player's, so he was basically using their own logic and base to own them...

EX. I hate that stupid win shares stat...Duncan21 uses it to say Gasol>>Kobe...So (even though I hate it) I still use it to show that Ray Allen's Win Share>>>KG's, so is Allen a Greater player than KG? NO.

See right there?, Even though I think it's crap, I still used his own simple-minded base logic against him...

Hey, look, I could be dead wrong on this, maybe he did contridict himself..

IMO, PER isn't crap, but as it's creater said.."It isn't the end all be all on who the better player is"...

Bottom lne to ths whole saga...You, Me, Fatal, Catch, juju, exc.. All know MJ>>>Kobe....The funny thing is, besides Bruce, Fatal is the only one Iv'e seen write out a long essay on why MJ is greater than Kobe..Go figure:ohwell:

[QUOTE=Fatal9]Why didn't you bold this part of my post? Do you read only what you want to read?



You're really reaching eh. Searching up old threads and everything. Nice to know a stranger named fatal9 is on your mind this fine afternoon :oldlol:[/QUOTE]



OWNED ...... Goodday...................

[QUOTE=branslowski]I hope that post wasn't toward me statman because I really don't give a sh!t anymore about how much of a meany Fatal9 is...

Anyway, using common sense (which most doesn't have) he's saying he doesn't like PER, but, some MJ fans seem to use it to Kill other player's, so he was basically using their own logic and base to own them...

EX. I hate that stupid win shares stat...Duncan21 uses it to say Gasol>>Kobe...So (even though I hate it) I still use it to show that Ray Allen's Win Share>>>KG's, so is Allen a Greater player than KG? NO.

See right there?, Even though I think it's crap, I still used his own simple-minded base logic against him...

Hey, look, I could be dead wrong on this, maybe he did contridict himself..

IMO, PER isn't crap, but as it's creater said.."It isn't the end all be all on who the better player is"...

Bottom lne to ths whole saga...You, Me, Fatal, Catch, juju, exc.. All know MJ>>>Kobe....The funny thing is, besides Bruce, Fatal is the only one Iv'e seen write out a long essay on why MJ is greater than Kobe..Go figure:ohwell:[/QUOTE]



Not for you.. But it just shows what a fake he is... Then he writes about some other bullcrap because he can't find a way out of the situation.. HE GOT OWNED...

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]OWNED ...... Goodday...................[/QUOTE]
What's with typing "owned" out of the blue?

I showed in the very same post, in what situations I use PER (to point out the hypocrisy of the same fans who use it against a player like Kobe). Then you go on to quote me in an instance where I used it in that exact same type of situation that I mentioned (against MJ fans who use it against Kobe all the time).

I guess I owned myself by pointing out the hypocrisy of Jordan fans when they use PER? Seems like they like to use it when it hurts Kobe but not when it helps him. What's the deal? :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=Fatal9]What's with typing "owned" out of the blue?

I showed in the very same post, in what situations I use PER (to point out the hypocrisy of the same fans who use it against a player like Kobe). Then you go on to quote me in an instance where I used it in that exact same type of situation that I mentioned (against MJ fans who use it against Kobe all the time).

I guess I owned myself by pointing out the hypocrisy of Jordan fans when they use PER? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]



Wrong you used PER in the past to show how great Kobe was playing in this years' playoffs... Then after his PER fell you write that you only use it to show what a bad stat it is.... :violin:

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]Not for you.. But it just shows what a fake he is... Then he writes about some other bullcrap because he can't find a way out of the situation.. [B]HE GOT OWNED[/B]...[/QUOTE]

Did he truley? Or is it that you don't understand or fully grasp the contex in which he is displaying his post?

Re-read my Post..Fully...Could he be only using the Stat he hates, to throw the logic back in the face of those who abuse it?...Or does the gullable young lad still screams "Contridiction" or "HaHa Owned"??

Let's just be unbias here and try to understand basic text concept.

[QUOTE=branslowski]Did he truley? Or is it that you don't understand or fully grasp the contex in which he is displaying his post?

Re-read my Post..Fully...Could he be only using the Stat he hates, to throw the logic back in the face of those who abuse it?...Or does the gullable young lad still screams "Contridiction" or "HaHa Owned"??

Let's just be unbias here and try to understand basic text concept.[/QUOTE]

It's funny how you haven't even seen the posts(yes not just that one) in the thread Fatal9 wrote those PER statements yet you are trying to tell Statman he doesn't grasp context.

[QUOTE=branslowski]Did he truley? Or is it that you don't understand or fully grasp the contex in which he is displaying his post?

Re-read my Post..Fully...Could he be only using the Stat he hates, to throw the logic back in the face of those who abuse it?...Or does the gullable young lad still screams "Contridiction" or "HaHa Owned"??

Let's just be unbias here and try to understand basic text concept.[/QUOTE]


It seems odd to me that he uses PER to back up his case when Kobe is putting up a great PER and then calls it a bs stat after Kobe's PER drops...

[QUOTE=branslowski]Did he truley? Or is it that you don't understand or fully grasp the contex in which he is displaying his post?

Re-read my Post..Fully...Could he be only using the Stat he hates, to throw the logic back in the face of those who abuse it?...Or does the gullable young lad still screams "Contridiction" or "HaHa Owned"??

Let's just be unbias here and try to understand basic text concept.[/QUOTE]

He doesn't get it dude, lol. I think fatal9 needs to come out of the closet, but he's a decent poster displaying "facts" too - Just like I thought Bruce was prior to the agenda. Funny how these goons concede that Bruce spits "100% facts", of course their not "spinned" like fatal9's. :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=Cyclone112]It's funny how you haven't even seen the posts(yes not just that one) in the thread Fatal9 wrote those PER statements yet you are trying to tell Statman he doesn't grasp context.[/QUOTE]

Your right..I haven't seen that whole thread...But Statman only showed me that one Paragraph..So gauging off of the post he has shown me, aswell as the post he is upset over, I had to shed light on the real deal concept..

If I show you a pic of a Women's Chest, and they were big..And then said, "Look at those chest, they are small"...You would only comment on what you were shown, and then continue to call me an idiot for saying they were small...But then, out of left field, someone say's to you..."How can you get pissed at Brans? The chick had a ugly face, and fat legs, you don't even know her body, so why are you getting pissed at him?".....Then, you would sit back and say..."Well, I was only shown this, and made my opinion off of it"

Now, I really hope you understood that....If you did, no need for you to get upset and try to attack me...But you should grasp it, and as a man say.."Oh ok, I see what your saying bro"...

[QUOTE=branslowski]Your right..I haven't seen that whole thread...But Statman only showed me that one Paragraph..So gauging off of the post he has shown me, aswell as the post he is upset over, I had to shed light on the real deal concept..

If I show you a pic of a Women's Chest, and they were big..And then said, "Look at those chest, they are small"...You would only comment on what you were shown, and then continue to call me an idiot for saying they were small...But then, out of left field, someone say's to you..."How can you get pissed at Brans? The chick had a ugly face, and fat legs, you don't even know her body, so why are you getting pissed at him?".....Then, you would sit back and say..."Well, I was only shown this, and made my opinion off of it"

Now, I really hope you understood that....If you did, no need for you to get upset and try to attack me...But you should grasp it, and as a man say.."Oh ok, I see what your saying bro"...[/QUOTE]

LMAO :oldlol: What the sh!!!t? I see what you're saying though..

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]It seems odd to me that he uses PER to back up his case when Kobe is putting up a great PER and then calls it a bs stat after Kobe's PER drops...[/QUOTE]

Look, you could be right...


But it's crazy how your not understanding my points...You can hate a stat, but use it to kill someone with their own logic..

[QUOTE=Cyclone112]It's funny how you haven't even seen the posts(yes not just that one) in the thread Fatal9 wrote those PER statements yet you are trying to tell Statman he doesn't grasp context.[/QUOTE]



:applause:

Fatal used PER to show Kobe was playing jordan level playoff basketball, he even used PER to show that KOBE's PER was better than many of mj's playoff PERS.. Than he calls it bs after he has no use for it... YEA I don't get it...


Catch to the rescue... Bran and Catch must be the new batman and robin... LOL.. Always ready to help each other... :oldlol:

[QUOTE=branslowski]Look, you could be right...


But it's crazy how your not understanding my points...You can hate a stat, but use it to kill someone with their own logic..[/QUOTE]


I understand what you are writing.. But he used it to show that Kobe was playing at a mj level.. Most agreed... Than he changes his views.. COMEON...


Many have also used PER to compare players... I am not sure but maybe you have used it in the past as well..

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]:applause:

Fatal used PER to show Kobe was playing jordan level playoff basketball, he even used PER to show that KOBE's PER was better than many of mj's playoff PERS.. Than he calls it bs after he has no use for it... YEA I don't get it...


Catch to the rescue... Bran and Catch must be the new batman and robin... LOL.. Always ready to help each other... :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

Juju, pipe down... Back to your sandbox kiddo.

:oldlol: at this moron still not understanding the point.

I've never been a fan of PER. In the post you quoted, I said I use it in scenarios where Kobe has the edge (over Hakeem for example, or show his playoff PER = Jordans) because the same weak argument is used against Kobe in every thread here. So when PER works in Kobe's favor, the haters have to eat it (but they don't like the stat very much in that scenario). It's using their own sh*tty logic against them, and it points out their hypocrisy. The only time I think it is sometimes okay to use is era to era, but I think it penalizes pace way too much, and perhaps position to position.

[QUOTE=catch24]LMAO :oldlol: What the sh!!!t? I see what you're saying though..[/QUOTE]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

I do go too far with my anologies...:oldlol:

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]I understand what you are writing.. But he used it to show that Kobe was playing at a mj level.. Most agreed... Than he changes his views.. COMEON...


Many have also used PER to compare players... I am not sure but maybe you have used it in the past as well..[/QUOTE]

Look, im basing my opinion's from the Quote you showed me, you are obvioulsy not catching on to common sense...Now, if your also judging this from other Fatal9 post in whatever thread that is, then I have no comment on it since I haven't seen it...

[QUOTE=Fatal9]:oldlol: at this moron still not understanding the point.

I've never been a fan of PER. In the post you quoted, I said I use it in scenarios where Kobe has the edge (over Hakeem for example, or show his playoff PER = Jordans) because the same weak argument is used against Kobe in every thread here. So when PER works in Kobe's favor, the haters have to eat it (but they don't like the stat very much in that scenario). It's using their own sh*tty logic against them, and it points out their hypocrisy. The only time I think it is sometimes okay to use is era to era, but I think it penalizes pace way too much, and perhaps position to position.[/QUOTE]

bet you my account he still won't "get it".

[QUOTE=Fatal9]Yup, which is why it's so interesting to see. When some posters here are going to see Jordan went scoreless in the last 10 minutes of a finals game, they are going to be shocked. [B]I've noticed a lot of players lately (like Lebron, Wade, Kobe etc) get a lot of hate for not performing in the clutch,[/B] but you'll see as this thread progresses, even the greatest clutch performer failed tons of times in clutch moments.[/QUOTE]



Wasn't it you doing the hating on Lebron after the ORLANDO SERIES.. The guy was excellent but I remembeR you pointing out all his weak moments.. [B]I am sure you noticed your own posts.....:lol [/B]

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]:applause:


Catch to the rescue... Bran and Catch must be the new batman and robin... LOL.. Always ready to help each other... :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

I hate when ppl get pissed because they are owned and dumb...So, should I say this samething about you and Juju? Mayhems(catch24) is his own person and can leave an opinion anywhere he wants...Don't get pissed because we can spot BS from a mile away..

[QUOTE=NBASTATMAN]Wasn't it you doing the hating on Lebron after the ORLANDO SERIES.. The guy was excellent but I remembeR you pointing out all his weak moments.. [B]I am sure you noticed your own posts.....:lol [/B][/QUOTE]

As I see your trying to steer the bus anotherway because you just noticed you were wrong...

I think everyone should stop cherry picking negatives to fit their Agenda..I don't care who the f*ck it is...Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Jordan are all GREAT F*CKING PLAYERS WHO DON'T DESERVE THE HATE...

[QUOTE=branslowski]Look, im basing my opinion's from the Quote you showed me, you are obvioulsy not catching on to common sense...Now, if your also judging this from other Fatal9 post in whatever thread that is, then I have no comment on it since I haven't seen it...[/QUOTE]


Exactly... I don't understand how you can write that I am not getting it but you yourself haVE not seen the context in which FATAL made that comment.. I should have clarified it .. But FATAL knows the truth so I posted it for him.. I also wrote that I posted it for him and not for you...
So I did not need to clarify it... He knows when used it ......

[QUOTE=catch24]Juju, pipe down... Back to your sandbox kiddo.[/QUOTE]
WTF how did i get into this?

[QUOTE=branslowski]:roll: :roll: :roll:

I hate when ppl get pissed because they are owned and dumb...So, should I say this samething about you and Juju? Mayhems(catch24) is his own person and can leave an opinion anywhere he wants...Don't get pissed because we can spot BS from a mile away..[/QUOTE]
Show me one thread where i got owned. I can list threads Fatal got owned in.