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[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]40" - yes
And I'm in good company about thinking he would dominate :cheers:
Every NBA player agree's. You won't find one that won't. Kobe ranked him #1 ahead of himself. U mad?[/QUOTE]
he doesn't get EVEN CLOSE to 40"
He wouldn't dominate because the only reason he dominated because he played in a weak era like George Mikan.
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]he doesn't get EVEN CLOSE to 40"
He wouldn't dominate because the only reason he dominated because he played in a weak era like George Mikan.[/QUOTE]
Damn u angry! muh bad brah!
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]he doesn't get EVEN CLOSE to 40"
He wouldn't dominate because the only reason he dominated because he played in a weak era like George Mikan.[/QUOTE]
What do you guess his vertical to be???
[QUOTE=bwink23]What do you guess his vertical to be???[/QUOTE]
Hard to tell. but it's not 40"
Some videos it looks only 2 feet.That one photo looks like 3 feet maybe
[QUOTE=bwink23]What do you guess his vertical to be???[/QUOTE]
Despite Wilt being a Big-Seven and Big-Eight high-jump champion for both 1957 and 1958 - in addition to being a prestigious Drake Relay's winner, KU Relay's winner, and a KU indoor high-jump record setter - with a PR good enough for 5th place in the 1956 Olympics out of 27 nation's competitors - he's gonna say something hilarious and asinine like 32" :roll:
As if elite D1 borderline world-class high jumper's of his caliber just have the run-of the mill vertical of the average 20 year old white guy... :roll:
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Hard to tell. but it's not 40"
Some videos it looks [B]only 2 feet[/B].That one photo looks like 3 feet maybe[/QUOTE]
Larry Bird's max vert was 28" :roll:
Dwane Wade's is 36" - how close to elite D1 high jumpers do you think Dwane Wade is? :lol
Dude couldn't out jump the #1 high-schooler what makes u think 36" verticals are worthy of 5th place out of 27 global countries again?
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Hard to tell. but it's not 40"
Some videos it looks only 2 feet.That one photo looks like 3 feet maybe[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure how to imbed images on here...but there's pic on Google images of chamberlain at rim-level with his head on an in-game dunk....for him to accomplish that:
height = 85"
rim = 120 inches......he'd have had to jump at least 33-35" to dunk it like that....now you don't believe that he could do more if there was no ball, and he actually prepped for the jump??
[QUOTE=bwink23]I'm not sure how to imbed images on here...but there's pic on Google images of chamberlain at rim-level with his head on an in-game dunk....for him to accomplish that:
height = 85"
rim = 120 inches......he'd have had to jump at least 33-35" to dunk it like that....now you don't believe that he could do more if there was no ball, and he actually prepped for the jump??[/QUOTE]
Allow me to help:
[IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WtOXPzNdgQM/T0xwAy-SLYI/AAAAAAAADFA/uW-0_meZdeM/s800/Corbis-U1257039.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4Teje8_1As8/T0xwAxfoP7I/AAAAAAAADFY/ASpGRhx5mW8/s800/download.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=bwink23]I'm not sure how to imbed images on here...but there's pic on Google images of chamberlain at rim-level with his head on an in-game dunk....for him to accomplish that:
height = 85"
rim = 120 inches......he'd have had to jump at least 33-35" to dunk it like that....now you don't believe that he could do more if there was no ball, and he actually prepped for the jump??[/QUOTE]
image?
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]image?[/QUOTE]
I don't know how to post images...CAVS did it one page back.
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]image?[/QUOTE]
[IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WtOXPzNdgQM/T0xwAy-SLYI/AAAAAAAADFA/uW-0_meZdeM/s800/Corbis-U1257039.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4Teje8_1As8/T0xwAxfoP7I/AAAAAAAADFY/ASpGRhx5mW8/s800/download.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Hc4gzo28Zcg/T0xwA-3OoVI/AAAAAAAADFI/fqlo_doBoOw/s800/k36j37.jpg[/IMG]
And of course theirs always this little diddy... if someone had their arm that high today for a dunk the announcers would have a massive coronary heart attack and die at the table the way the spaz over dunks today.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW][IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WtOXPzNdgQM/T0xwAy-SLYI/AAAAAAAADFA/uW-0_meZdeM/s800/Corbis-U1257039.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4Teje8_1As8/T0xwAxfoP7I/AAAAAAAADFY/ASpGRhx5mW8/s800/download.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
You can't judge anything on angles like that, the only way to tell if someone is rim level is really a direct shot of the basket.
A camera looking up at a shot like that isn't really something to go off of.
[IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--TPPYteM7Xc/T0xvoYUEuFI/AAAAAAAADEk/H4FFJgv3-F8/s800/Corbis-BE025377.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=abuC]You can't judge anything on angles like that, the only way to tell if someone is rim level is really a direct shot of the basket.
A camera looking up at a shot like that isn't really something to go off of.[/QUOTE]
You can judge that he's really f_cking high... don't be an idiot and try to deny it. Just look at his feet in relation to other athletes/the floor. Deuce claimed a "2 foot" vertical. Does it look like 2 feet? Or is the camera angle too tricky to tell... :facepalm
35" if he's at rim level. But I think the angle affects that
edit: 30-33"
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]You can judge that he's really f_cking high... don't be an idiot and try to deny it.[/QUOTE]
You must be around 13 if you don't know about camera perspective, here's a giant holding onto the Christ the redeemer statue in Brazil:
[img]http://jedsundwall.com/rio/images/100-percent-jesus.jpg[/img]
That statue is 130ft tall, he's clearly a monster.
Like I said, you can't tell ANYTHING from these garbage camera angles you're posting as proof, all of them are either off angle or pointing up at the rim.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW][IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Hc4gzo28Zcg/T0xwA-3OoVI/AAAAAAAADFI/fqlo_doBoOw/s800/k36j37.jpg[/IMG]
And of course theirs always this little diddy... if someone had their arm that high today for a dunk the announcers would have a massive coronary heart attack and die at the table the way the spaz over dunks today.[/QUOTE]
That's the photo i was looking at...doesn't look like a 2-foot vert to me...
[QUOTE=abuC]You must be around 13 if you don't know about camera perspective, here's a giant holding onto the Christ the redeemer statue in Brazil:
[img]http://jedsundwall.com/rio/images/100-percent-jesus.jpg[/img]
That statue is 130ft tall, he's clearly a monster.
Like I said, you can't tell ANYTHING from these garbage camera angles you're posting as proof, all of them are either off angle or pointing up at the rim.[/QUOTE]
I know damn well about camera distortion and perspective in photography is a hobby of mine. I'll ask again. Are you going to sit here and say "I can not deduce whether or not Wilt's vertical was two feet or not because I don't trust the angle"!?
Get real. The distortion is NOT that extreme.
[QUOTE=abuC]You must be around 13 if you don't know about camera perspective, here's a giant holding onto the Christ the redeemer statue in Brazil:
[img]http://jedsundwall.com/rio/images/100-percent-jesus.jpg[/img]
That statue is 130ft tall, he's clearly a monster.
Like I said, you can't tell ANYTHING from these garbage camera angles you're posting as proof, all of them are either off angle or pointing up at the rim.[/QUOTE]
I can tell your an idiot :facepalm
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW][IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WtOXPzNdgQM/T0xwAy-SLYI/AAAAAAAADFA/uW-0_meZdeM/s800/Corbis-U1257039.jpg[/IMG]
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that is your best pic. his feet are high off the ground
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]I can tell [B]your an idiot[/B] :facepalm[/QUOTE]
hmm..
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW][IMG]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WtOXPzNdgQM/T0xwAy-SLYI/AAAAAAAADFA/uW-0_meZdeM/s800/Corbis-U1257039.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4Teje8_1As8/T0xwAxfoP7I/AAAAAAAADFY/ASpGRhx5mW8/s800/download.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Seeing is in the bottom photo that Wilt has his hand on the backboard and his arm in a bent position...i'd say he's well skying.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]I can tell your an idiot :facepalm[/QUOTE]
I can tell you're a moron.
You're, not YOUR. If you plan on calling someone an idiot learn the difference.
:cheers: :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]35" if he's at rim level. But I think the angle affects that
edit: 30-33"[/QUOTE]
:hammerhead:
(High Jump Champ) Cough Cough.
[QUOTE=abuC]I can tell you're a moron.
You're, not YOUR. If you plan on calling someone an idiot learn the difference.
:cheers: :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Thanks you sure showed me! :bowdown: Almighty spell checker!
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]I know damn well about camera distortion and perspective in photography is a hobby of mine. I'll ask again. Are you going to sit here and say "I can not deduce whether or not Wilt's vertical was two feet or not because I don't trust the angle"!?
Get real. The distortion is NOT that extreme.[/QUOTE]
Oh, so now photography is a hobby yet you're trying to narrow down to the inch how high someone jumped based on off angle pictures pointing UP at the rim. You might want to consider a new hobby if that's the case.
Matter of fact, you can save the NBA a lot of money with your precise skill. They can get rid of the vertec measurement tools they have and just take pictures of guys jumping and have you tell what everyone's vertical is @ the combine.
[QUOTE=abuC]Oh, so now photography is a hobby yet you're trying to narrow down to the inch how high someone jumped based on off angle pictures pointing UP at the rim. You might want to consider a new hobby if that's the case.
Matter of fact, you can save the NBA a lot of money with your precise skill. They can get rid of the vertec measurement tools they have and just take pictures of guys jumping and have you tell what everyone's vertical is @ the combine.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Show me my post where I attempt to narrow down his vertical by the inch via the rim. Show me. Shut up and stop Assuming you know what I posted or why I posted and read the thread before you jump in all hot n bothered
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]:facepalm
Show me my post where I attempt to narrow down his vertical by the inch via the rim. Show me. Shut up and stop Assuming you know what I posted or why I posted and read the thread before you jump in all hot n bothered[/QUOTE]
Short term memory?
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]40" - yes
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[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6950740&postcount=202[/url]
How high would you say this Masai warriors vertical is oh wise sage of jumping:
[IMG]http://www.africa-expert.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Masai_dancing_jumping_high.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=abuC]Short term memory?
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6950740&postcount=202[/url]
How high would you say this Masai warriors vertical is oh wise sage of jumping:
[IMG]http://www.africa-expert.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Masai_dancing_jumping_high.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
No frame of reference.
Not the same at all. Thanks for trying. Everyone knows how high a 10 foot basket is. I never used it to peg Wilt's vertical based on it as you accuse - but it was pretty f_cking obvious he was higher than 2 feet. Your literally visually/spatially inept if you can't figure that much out.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]No frame of reference. Thanks for trying. Everyone knows how high a 10 foot basket is. I never claimed to peg Wilt's vertical based on it - but it was pretty f_cking obvious he was higher than 2 feet. Your literally visually/spatially inept if you can't figure that much out.[/QUOTE]
Where have I said anything about Wilt's vert other than the pictures you were posting are impossible to tell if he's rim level.
I will point out that you said his vert was 40" which is a joke, considering that would mean his head would be 5" above the rim, putting his nose/mouth at rim level :rolleyes:
When i did track in high school, i did long jump and high jump....i'm about 5'10" track shoes, and i cleared 6'0 on my best jump...i went backward and couldn't bend for shit....The top of my waist (point of reference) is 39"....I would have to jump 6'6" just to clear my ass over the bar, giving a rough vertical of around 37-39"...( I could touch 11-12"above the rim). Now Wilt was doing 6'6" with a proven CRAPPIER style of jumping. I guarantee he was clearing closer to 6'10" to 7feet with that style...watching the videos, he clears the bar pretty easily, but gets screwed with his drag leg. Yeah he's taller than me, his torso is longer i'm sure and legs might be 6-8 inches longer, but he was jumping higher than i was as well...
Comparatively, it's not out of the realm that he could approach 40". 36"-39" is a definIte in my book.
(I just measured my standing reach, 93" on my tip toes...i could touch 11-12" above the rim in high school, which is about 132 inches...which comes out to a 38-39 inch vertical.
[QUOTE=bwink23]When i did track in high school, i did long jump and high jump....i'm about 5'10" track shoes, and i cleared 6'0 on my best jump...i went backward and couldn't bend for shit....The top of my waist (point of reference) is 39"....I would have to jump 6'6" just to clear my ass over the bar, giving a rough vertical of around 37-39"...( I could touch 11-12"above the rim). Now Wilt was doing 6'6" with a proven CRAPPIER style of jumping. I guarantee he was clearing closer to 6'10" to 7feet with that style...watching the videos, he clears the bar pretty easily, but gets screwed with his drag leg. Yeah he's taller than me, his torso is longer i'm sure and legs might be 6-8 inches longer, but he was jumping higher than i was as well...
Comparatively, it's not out of the realm that he could approach 40". 36"-39" is a definIte in my book.
(I just measured my standing reach, 93" on my tip toes...i could touch 11-12" above the rim in high school, which is about 132 inches...which comes out to a 38-39 inch vertical.[/QUOTE]
I did long jump and had a 36" max-vertical. I'm a white guy. Anyone who thinks a top tier NCAA High Jumper has a vertical the same as an above average but nothing too special white high-school competitive long-jumper is literally bat-shit stupid.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]40" - yes
And I'm in good company about thinking he would dominate :cheers:
Every NBA player agree's. You won't find one that won't. Kobe ranked him #1 ahead of himself. U mad?[/QUOTE]
I don't think players/people ranking Wilt #1 means they think he would dominate in todays league. They are just doing exactly what any rational person should do, and ranking Wilt against his peers, for which he was obviously superior.
Anyone who thinks Wilt would even come close to replicating his statistics or dominance in todays league is simply drinking the cool-aid.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]I did long jump and had a 36" max-vertical. I'm a white guy. Anyone who thinks a top tier NCAA High Jumper has a vertical the same as an above average but nothing too special white high-school competitive long-jumper is literally bat-shit stupid.[/QUOTE]
Wilt was using an archaic and inferior jumping style as well...i don't think i could have cleared 6'0" like that, you'd lose too much upward force trying to lay your body over the bar flat.
And I don't really understand the extreme focus on Wilt's physical abilities. Javalle Mcgee is a physical specimen as well... so what? James White can do a 360, between the legs, from the FT dunk... so what?
[QUOTE=bdreason]I don't think players/people ranking Wilt #1 means they think he would dominate in todays league. They are just doing exactly what any rational person should do, and ranking Wilt against his peers, for which he was obviously superior.
Anyone who thinks Wilt would even come close to replicating his statistics or dominance in todays league is simply drinking the cool-aid.[/QUOTE]
Statistics no - obviously. Relative dominance, yes. That's not out of the question. He's the same weight with greater wingspan and higher reach than Yao Ming... except... how athletic was he? How strong was he?
How dominant was Yao Ming when he was healthy despite moving around with the agility and speed of Frankenstein's monster?
Doesn't take much stretch of the imagination to believe he'd be the most dominant player in the league.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Based on this dumbass. Not based pictures of him playing basketball.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
Calling me a dumbass, yet posting that long ass moronic drivel of a post, a high jump and a vertical are two entirely different types of jumps. A vertical is measured off no step, or 1 step and jumping off TWO FEET, your moronic copy and paste job has Wilt running and jumping off one foot.
Whoever posted that original post is just as delusional as you, wouldn't be surprised if it was Jlauber.
16 pages and no empirical proof in the form of a photo or video of wilt ever doing anything like that
[QUOTE=bdreason]And I don't really understand the extreme focus on Wilt's physical abilities. Javalle Mcgee is a physical specimen as well... so what? James White can do a 360, between the legs, from the FT dunk... so what?[/QUOTE]
Because Jefail is as smart as a tomatoe, and is not even close to the specimen Wilt was and if you think being a specimen doesn't mean anything go watch footage of Shaq.