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[QUOTE=maybeshewill13]Lin the all-star :bowdown:
Most overrated player in the league BY FAR.[/QUOTE]
:durantunimpressed: Overrated? I don't see anybody saying he's as good as cp3, drose, wb, etc...
The hate is strong in you, brah. :no: Asg is about popularity... people will vote for who they wanna see. Why make such a fuss over it? The elite guards in the league can pretty much get in any other time they want.
[QUOTE=maybeshewill13]Lin the all-star :bowdown:
Most overrated player in the league BY FAR.[/QUOTE]
He's been scrubtacular.
[QUOTE=Chapallaz]Remember Mike James '06.[/QUOTE]
Heh, one of the few bright spots in an awful year for the Raptors.
I can't definitely see the same scenario play out for Lin. Although, he won't have prime KG to play next too.
Mike James that year: 20/3/6/1/0 on 47/44/84 :bowdown:
[QUOTE=WockaVodka]I asked you this a while ago, but what do you do for a living? You seem to be on here constantly.[/QUOTE]
Haha, do you have RRR3's permission to use his pic as your avatar?
[QUOTE=shoops]:durantunimpressed: Overrated? I don't see anybody saying he's as good as cp3, drose, wb, etc...
The hate is strong in you, brah. :no: Asg is about popularity... people will vote for who they wanna see. Why make such a fuss over it? The elite guards in the league can pretty much get in any other time they want.[/QUOTE]
LOL the only reason he's popular is because he's asian.. he's not exciting in the slightest and is leagues behind pretty much every point guard in the west. Why would anyone want to see him in the all star game? Because he's asian? :facepalm
I'm so butthurt over the fact that the Rockets said bye bye to two great pointguards like Lowry and Dragic. Lowry has had a good preseason this far while averaging 15 points, 4 rebounds and almost 6 assists and this is Lowry coming back from a long time of not playing games due him getting sick last season.
Dragic has still not got that much playing time but I guess it will come but he had a good pre-season as well, 8.5 points per game on 51% shooting while dishing out 5 assists.
Jeremy Lin had a terrible pre-season, 5 points per game on 22% shooting. Sure, his assists looks good and so does his steals but again the turnovers..
This shit just doesn't make any sense..
[QUOTE=maybeshewill13]LOL the only reason he's popular is because he's asian.. he's not exciting in the slightest and is leagues behind pretty much every point guard in the west. Why would anyone want to see him in the all star game? Because he's asian? :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Lol did you miss out on the story or something? Sure being Asian is one of the factors, but how about being undrafted, overlooked as a scrub and coming out of frigging Harvard blah blah blah? The whole success story is reason enough to be popular, even if he's no chris paul. And as much as it might sound like a cop out, everyone's definition of exciting is different. :confusedshrug: Anyways, there's plenty of good pgs in the west, true, but that also means popularity will be pretty divided unless there's some other compelling factor, which Lin has.
[QUOTE=millwad]I'm so butthurt over the fact that the Rockets said bye bye to two great pointguards like Lowry and Dragic. Lowry has had a good preseason this far while averaging 15 points, 4 rebounds and almost 6 assists and this is Lowry coming back from a long time of not playing games due him getting sick last season.
Dragic has still not got that much playing time but I guess it will come but he had a good pre-season as well, 8.5 points per game on 51% shooting while dishing out 5 assists.
Jeremy Lin had a terrible pre-season, 5 points per game on 22% shooting. Sure, his assists looks good and so does his steals but again the turnovers..
This shit just doesn't make any sense..[/QUOTE]
+ Amnesty your most steady, useful and decent player in Scola.
[QUOTE=maybeshewill13] Why would anyone want to see him in the all star game? Because he's asian? :facepalm[/QUOTE]
I think you got it right. It's pretty similar to lots African American who never cared about voting before jump on Obama's boat so fast. You know kinda breaking stereotype thing.
And I assure you that there are a lot of butthurting white people out there too.
Its the connection, you don't feel it, many others do. You can ignore it, try to understand it or butthurt about it.
[QUOTE=pnyozzzoo]I think you got it right. It's pretty similar to lots African American who never cared about voting before jump on Obama's boat so fast. You know kinda breaking stereotype thing.
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Yep, you don't see me going and voting for Andrew Bogut for all-star game because I'm Australian. Pathetic. Vote for the players that deserve it, not one that has the same skin/eye color/religious beliefs/whatever as you..
[QUOTE=RRR3]Jesus he's been stinkin' up the joint :facepalm
1-8 today, 2 points :facepalm
Look it's just preseason but DAMN look at these stats:
20 minutes, 1-3 (0-2 from 3), 3 points, 1 rebound, 6 assists, 3 steals, 3 turnovers
23 minutes, 2-6, 9 pts, 1 reb, 7 assists, 2 steals, 2 TO's
25 minutes, 1-10 (0-3), 4 pts, 1 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 2 TO's
31 minutes, 3-9 (0-3), 7 pts, 5 reb, 12 ast, 4 stl, 2 TO's
31 minutes, 1-8 (0-1), 2 pts, 3 reb, 5 ast, 2 stl, 6 TO's
Averages: 26.0 MPG, 5.0 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 6.2 APG, 2.4 SPG, 3.0 TO, [B].222 FG%, .000 3P% (0-9), .600 FT%[/B]
:roll: :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Makes Melo look efficient :roll: :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=Clutch]Makes Melo look efficient :roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
Yeah and at least Melo puts up a high volume of points while being inefficient. Lin is averaging 5 PPG
[QUOTE=maybeshewill13]Yep, you don't see me going and voting for Andrew Bogut for all-star game because I'm Australian. Pathetic. Vote for the players that deserve it, not one that has the same skin/eye color/religious beliefs/whatever as you..[/QUOTE]
Uh What makes you think there are no Aussies that voted for bogut at all BECAUSE he was aussie?
You are speaking for yourself and yourself only.
I went to a Sonics game in 2007. And there was a huge section of aussie boys waving the aussie flag almost the entire game. They were chanting aussie/rugby style songs.
And when he fouled out, that entire section of aussie fans cheered, " BO GUT! BO GUT!"
Never mind the fact that the Bucks lost. They were rejoiced to have seen one of their own (aussie) to play so well. He got a few dunks and layups and that was the loudest the arena was that game.
And I live in France and Tony Parker gets the same focused attention as Lin too. When french news show basketball highlights, their focus is on the fact that Tony Parker is french. "the frenchman who does France proud by beating americans at their own game."
french fan boys stay up late at night to catch NBA games. I am pretty sure they voted for Parker BECAUSE he was french. The funny thing is most french know $hit about basketball. they think Parker is just as good as LeBron and Joakim Noah (his dad yannick is famous) is as good as Hakeem. I asked a handful of French dudes what they knew of basketball. The only names they knew were Parker, Joakim, Michael Jordan, and Magic Johnson.
And that's basketball only. When Curiosity landed on Mars, they had to take away from the moment and insert some self serving comment about how it was French engineers who built (some part of Curiosity). It was their neeneer neeneer moment about how in their own mind they (the french) upstaged the Americans.
I could go on and on about France. But French people cheer for their own just as much as Asians/Chinese cheer for their own too. And aussies are not different.
the point is...Almost everyone not just asians vote for their own. The only reason China gets attention for voting for their own is because their population is by far the largest one on earth and china is a bankable market. Unlike decadent countries has beens like frenchies and morbidly obese americans.
rant over.
Lin's stats are not great, but Houston still has 4 - 2 record in the preseason, and Lin still has good +/- when he's on the court. But yeah, it's surprising he has not broken the 10 point barrier in any game yet.
But I want him to do well. I'm not rooting against him just because Dolan is a douche. Let the Linsanity continue. :basketball
What a surprise... Lin sucks:lol :lol
[QUOTE=coin24]What a surprise... Lin sucks:lol :lol[/QUOTE]
:lol :lol He'll average 7/3/1 and be an all star game starter
Did people really think he was all that good? :facepalm
[QUOTE=9512]Uh What makes you think there are no Aussies that voted for bogut at all BECAUSE he was aussie?
You are speaking for yourself and yourself only.
I went to a Sonics game in 2007. And there was a huge section of aussie boys waving the aussie flag almost the entire game. They were chanting aussie/rugby style songs.
And when he fouled out, that entire section of aussie fans cheered, " BO GUT! BO GUT!"
Never mind the fact that the Bucks lost. They were rejoiced to have seen one of their own (aussie) to play so well. He got a few dunks and layups and that was the loudest the arena was that game.
And I live in France and Tony Parker gets the same focused attention as Lin too. When french news show basketball highlights, their focus is on the fact that Tony Parker is french. "the frenchman who does France proud by beating americans at their own game."
french fan boys stay up late at night to catch NBA games. I am pretty sure they voted for Parker BECAUSE he was french. The funny thing is most french know $hit about basketball. they think Parker is just as good as LeBron and Joakim Noah (his dad yannick is famous) is as good as Hakeem. I asked a handful of French dudes what they knew of basketball. The only names they knew were Parker, Joakim, Michael Jordan, and Magic Johnson.
And that's basketball only. When Curiosity landed on Mars, they had to take away from the moment and insert some self serving comment about how it was French engineers who built (some part of Curiosity). It was their neeneer neeneer moment about how in their own mind they (the french) upstaged the Americans.
I could go on and on about France. But French people cheer for their own just as much as Asians/Chinese cheer for their own too. And aussies are not different.
the point is...Almost everyone not just asians vote for their own. The only reason China gets attention for voting for their own is because their population is by far the largest one on earth and china is a bankable market. Unlike decadent countries has beens like frenchies and morbidly obese americans.
rant over.[/QUOTE]
Settle down chief.. I said "you don't see [B]ME[/B] going and voting for Bogut"
Of course people cheer for their own (so they should).. people can cheer Lin all they want.. but voting him into an ALL-STAR game based solely on his race is idiotic.. I'd feel the same if it were Aussie people voting Bogut over Dwight.
[QUOTE=JohnnySic]Did people really think he was all that good? :facepalm[/QUOTE]
A lot of retards on here still do. And call the Knicks idiotic for not paying a ton of tax for the scrub:roll:
[QUOTE=coin24][B]A lot of retards on here still do[/B]. And call the Knicks idiotic for not paying a ton of tax for the scrub:roll:[/QUOTE]
Pretty much.
[QUOTE=maybeshewill13]Settle down chief.. I said "you don't see [B]ME[/B] going and voting for Bogut"
Of course people cheer for their own (so they should).. people can cheer Lin all they want.. but voting him into an ALL-STAR game based solely on his race is idiotic.. I'd feel the same if it were Aussie people voting Bogut over Dwight.[/QUOTE]
Well 99.5% of Australians couldnt give 2 shits about basketball so that wont happen anytime soon:oldlol:
I still expected Lin to be a good player though. He's not scoring AT ALL. is he still hurt?
[QUOTE=RRR3]I still expected Lin to be a good player though. He's not scoring AT ALL. is he still hurt?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/10/jeremy-lin-is-happy-with-the-steady-progress-of-the-rockets/[/url]
[QUOTE]“For me, it’s progress,” Lin said. “Obviously, I’m not where I want to be right now. Do I wish I played better? Of course. But I have to be realistic and understand when I came into training camp I couldn’t even get into the paint, and now I can get into the paint, but I’m not finishing. The next step is to start finishing, hitting open shots, and hopefully the dam breaks loose.
“I want to mix in the mid-range as well. But for the most part, the shots that I took are the ones I can finish and should finish. It’s one of those things (where) I took the shots and missed them, got blocked on a couple, didn’t make the right adjustment. But it will be better — much better — coming up soon.”[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]“The best thing about the whole thing was my knee was fine, my wind was decent,” Lin said. “I played the most minutes (31) I played the whole preseason. I’m happy with how I felt.”[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlitzForce][url]http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/10/jeremy-lin-is-happy-with-the-steady-progress-of-the-rockets/[/url][/QUOTE]
What's wrong? He's acting like this is for everyone, why is everyone else ok? Is he still saying he's been hurt? From the minor knee surgery in the beginning of April?
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/lin-needs-knee-surgery-likely-done-season-223604839--spt.html[/url]
In early (first week) of April Lin had surgery that would keep him out a maximum of 6 weeks. It's now been approx 28 weeks.
NFL players gets surgery that Lin complains of and comes back in 3 weeks.
7 months later Lin is till complaining about the injury.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]NFL players gets surgery that Lin complains of and comes back in 3 weeks.
7 months later Lin is till complaining about the injury.[/QUOTE]
Do NFL players really have to jump? if youre gonna compare injuries compare it to a NBA player :facepalm
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]NFL players gets surgery that Lin complains of and comes back in 3 weeks.
7 months later Lin is till complaining about the injury.[/QUOTE]
He might have been right to get out of NY because he'd have been called out on this. He very subtly is blaming injury for everything he does wrong. I think in Houston he's new so it's 100% ok but it NY with all the coverage, if no the NY media the national media would have called him out, fair or unfair.
[QUOTE=niko]He might have been right to get out of NY because he'd have been called out on this. He very subtly is blaming injury for everything he does wrong. I think in Houston he's new so it's 100% ok but it NY with all the coverage, if no the NY media the national media would have called him out, fair or unfair.[/QUOTE]
I think he's much more exposed now then what he would be in New York. Houston is supposed to be HIS team but in New York he'd be able to hide behind Amare and Anthony and he'd have much less attention on him on offense but now he's going to get locked down time after time..
[QUOTE=millwad]I think he's much more exposed now then what he would be in New York. Houston is supposed to be HIS team but in New York he'd be able to hide behind Amare and Anthony and he'd have much less attention on him on offense but now he's going to get locked down time after time..[/QUOTE]
So far in preseason he just hides in the corner at the first sign of things going wrong. Luckily, Chandler Parsons and Kevin Martin and Terrence Jones have played very well.
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]So far in preseason he just hides in the corner at the first sign of things going wrong. Luckily, Chandler Parsons and Kevin Martin and Terrence Jones have played very well.[/QUOTE]
As a Rocket fan I really enjoyed the "Linsanity"-thing but I was and I am still butthurt over the fact that the Rockets let two great point guards go just to sign Lin later. And not only did they sign Lin, they gave him a huge contract for a guy who's unproven..
Lowry who got traded away had the cheapest contract in the league..
[QUOTE=IGOTGAME]NFL players gets surgery that Lin complains of and comes back in 3 weeks.
7 months later Lin is till complaining about the injury.[/QUOTE]
How hypocritical of you. Your butt still seems hurt as well.
[QUOTE=TheAesirsFinest]How hypocritical of you. Your butt still seems hurt as well.[/QUOTE]
Aesirs, where do you see the Rockets in the standings this year with Lin ?
[QUOTE=TheAesirsFinest]How hypocritical of you. Your butt still seems hurt as well.[/QUOTE]
It's not hypocritical, he said it at the time actually that Lin wouldn't come back as quick as he could, that he was soft. Fair or unfair he's been very consistent.
[QUOTE=Chapallaz]+ Amnesty your most steady, useful and decent player in Scola.[/QUOTE]
It's about time the Rockets tanked. We got the 14th pick 3 f**king years in a row. I hated saying goodbye to Scola, but we had to in order to 1) clear space for the contracts Magic wanted to dump on us, or 2) playing time for youngsters.
[QUOTE=brantonli]It's about time the Rockets tanked. We got the 14th pick 3 f**king years in a row. I hated saying goodbye to Scola, but we had to in order to 1) clear space for the contracts Magic wanted to dump on us, or 2) playing time for youngsters.[/QUOTE]
Still no excuse for Morey a la saying bye bye to Dragic and Lowry and then pay Lin big money..
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Aesirs, where do you see the Rockets in the standings this year with Lin ?[/QUOTE]
Heck if I know, dude. That will be one of the things I love/hate this year - our team's instability. With such heavy dependence on our rookies and sophomores, I think we'll look like crap, then look like a terrifying lock-down defense and sprint team, then look like a team that jacks up 3s, then a team which has wet toilet paper for defense....all in the same game. And then you have to take into account Royce White's situation, some minor injuries caused some rotation players to miss preseason games/camp, etc.
To be honest, Lin's play isn't the make-or-break factor for us. Our team defense as a whole is far more important since our game plan seems to be to hustle our asses off on defense and run in transition. So far though, he's been alright. He can't shoot for shit right now and still makes stupid jump passes in traffic, but he's been a decent floor general. I'm relatively confident he'll improve his play since he's had to deal with a bunch of different line-ups and rooks.
I really don't know what to think about the Rockets this year. I think we could go anywhere from 14th to maybe even 7th or 8th in the WC (unlikely).
[QUOTE=niko]It's not hypocritical, he said it at the time actually that Lin wouldn't come back as quick as he could, that he was soft. Fair or unfair he's been very consistent.[/QUOTE]
The hypocrisy is that he's complaining about Lin's inability to get over a supposedly minor injury while he himself is unable to cease being butthurt over anything Lin-related, minor or major. Thanks for reminding me though - he hasn't been consistent either. At the time of the Heat-Knicks series, he talked trash about how Lin wasn't playing with such a negligible setback iirc.
[QUOTE=millwad]Still no excuse for Morey a la saying bye bye to Dragic and Lowry and then pay Lin big money..[/QUOTE]
Lowry wanted out. Getting a lottery pick ain't too bad. Dragic wanted a player option, which puts the franchise at a disadvantage. Lin's potential is pretty appealing. Take into account the marketing factor, and for $8m a year (which still doesn't put our salary over the minimum), it's justified.
Kyle Lowry this preseason:
27.7 MPG, 15.3 PPG, 4.0 RPG, 5.7 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.3 BPG, .481 FG%, .500 3P%, .867 FT%
:bowdown:
[QUOTE=TheAesirsFinest]
The hypocrisy is that he's complaining about Lin's inability to get over a supposedly minor injury while he himself is unable to cease being butthurt over anything Lin-related, minor or major. Thanks for reminding me though - [B]he hasn't been consistent[/B] either. At the time of the Heat-Knicks series, he talked trash about how Lin wasn't playing with such a negligible setback iirc.
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I've said have said the exact same things about lin from the jump. go pull up the thread if you want. too much work tho.
[QUOTE=millwad]Still no excuse for Morey a la saying bye bye to Dragic and Lowry and then pay Lin big money..[/QUOTE]
There's another thread on Rockets ownership pushing for Lin.