[QUOTE=Solefade]Bulls trade up to get Jabari somehow and pair him up with D. Rose as heros of chi-town..EPIC![/QUOTE]
Yeah teams are gonna be trading a top 3 pick this year...
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[QUOTE=Solefade]Bulls trade up to get Jabari somehow and pair him up with D. Rose as heros of chi-town..EPIC![/QUOTE]
Yeah teams are gonna be trading a top 3 pick this year...
[QUOTE=PleezeBelieve]Cavs have Deng's bird rights. Can offer him an extra year even at a lower yearly salary than other teams:
Cavs may offer 4 years 44 mill (Bulls only offered 3 years) while holding the ace card with a 5th year option if anyone wants to go crazy and give him a four year deal.[/QUOTE]
Came here to mention the only advantage of trading for Deng now is the Bird Right situation and it allows them to offer him more. At any rate, he walks and the Cavs have only given up Bynum (an experiment they have pretty much admitted did not work and was low risk anyway with the way they structure his contract).
What would the free agent market be for Deng? Any teams with enough cap space (I imagine someone would overpay).
Oh snap, Bynum @ Miami? :)
[QUOTE=coin24]Id say so. Whole reason they did the deal.
Miami?:oldlol:[/QUOTE]
I hope Riley gives him another chance just like when the Heat signed Michael Beasley.
[QUOTE=pauk]Oh snap, Bynum @ Miami? :)[/QUOTE]
Lebron doesn't have enough help :oldlol:
If Bynum lands in Miami.. Hibbert looking like Kareem against them ends.
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Miami got and got themselves some morals and are not going after Bynum after going after troubled guys like Beasley and Andersen. Instead they are don't want to cut Mason JR because he's a good dude and have put their hopes on the worst knees in sports of history, Oden. Indiana will shit on them.
Clippers are cutting Stephen Jackson and unless they got their eyes on Turkododo I'm pretty sure they are making a spot for Bynum.
bulls going to amnesty boozer now?
[QUOTE=Nash]Miami got and got themselves some morals and are not going after Bynum after going after troubled guys like Beasley and Andersen. Instead they are don't want to cut Mason JR because he's a good dude and have put their hopes on the worst knees in sports of history, Oden. Indiana will shit on them.
Clippers are cutting Stephen Jackson and unless they got their eyes on Turkododo I'm pretty sure they are making a spot for Bynum.[/QUOTE]
i thought they worked out HEdo
A lot of people are ignorant in this thread. It's a chance the organization is going to take and I'm fine with it. The Cavs go out and trade for a player where they are the weakest at, at that position and people crucify them for it. I see a lot of...
"OMG Cavs got robbed, they traded 3 picks for it!"
...they act like we gave up 3 top 10 guaranteed picks for Deng. Two of them are second rounders, and the top 10 pick is a Kings pick, that of which they have to make the playoffs 2 years in a row in order for it to a be a top 10 pick in the first place, otherwise it'll basically be a second round pick.
I'm fine with the trade, the Cavs are taking a chance on fixing a glaring positional issue. At least they're not going into the draft and drafting a player at #1 when they already have a starting PF at that players spot..oh wait...
I'm fine with Deng getting $11-$13 million a season, $15 is a little high to me, but whatever. Everyone overpays in this league 90% of the time.
win win for both teams.
cavs didn't give up much to get Deng, Bulls get tons of salary relief and some seconds they can package to move up in the draft with.
I'm not getting my hopes up about signing Deng long term. It's possible but i just have no clue what Grant/Deng are thinking in that regard.
I wanted the nets to get deng but the cavs need to start winning games now. They might get another top 5-10 pick this year and next year they need to be a playoff team. Good move by cavs and surprised why deng felt he was worth more than 10mm per year.... Dude is always injured.
Cavs should make the playoffs this year, and as long as they're not 7th or 8th seed they'll make the second round, which would be a huge win for the franchise.
Bulls, I felt, could have gotten more for Deng. I'm pretty disappointed in our "haul". The first round picks are not likely to be very good ones, but I actually expect the Bulls to use them as assets in a future trade as opposed to actually drafting with them. Since the Bulls are clearly looking towards the future, now, perhaps they can find someone to take Boozer off our hands?
The real loser in this is me. I bought tickets to the Wizards/Bulls game in a couple weeks, thinking I'd see Rose vs. Wall, Beal vs Butler, two exciting teams in the East... instead, it will be the Wizards just laying the smack down on Augustin, Butler, and Noah.
Deng will get a big contract this year, say 4 years, 56 million.
The Cavs have no choice, since they gave up so much to get him.
If Bulls amnesty Boozer will they have cap to sign Melo in the offseason?
[QUOTE=BlackVVaves]A star player? :biggums:[/QUOTE]
All star.
[QUOTE=Nash]Miami got and got themselves some morals and are not going after Bynum after going after troubled guys like Beasley and Andersen. Instead they are don't want to cut Mason JR because he's a good dude and have put their hopes on the worst knees in sports of history, Oden. Indiana will shit on them.
Clippers are cutting Stephen Jackson and unless they got their eyes on Turkododo I'm pretty sure they are making a spot for Bynum.[/QUOTE]
Miami would be fools to not at least sign him Up.. He fills a big need against indy for one.
I'm not so sure the Cavs should waste money resigning him, while he's a good player he's going into his 30's and the amount of mins he's played he's probably a lot older body wise and he will break down sooner rather than later.
If your going to spend upwards of 12+million than do it on someone young with potential, maybe try get Greg Monroe in the offseason, trade for Larry Sanders or something like that.
[QUOTE=hawkfan]Deng will get a big contract this year, say 4 years, 56 million.
The Cavs have no choice, since they gave up so much to get him.[/QUOTE]
yeah $14mill long deal sounds about right to keep him.
Nets should try and get Bynum to make up for Lopez's injury. Not that Bynum is a healthy player, but it's better than nothing.
Great trade for the Bulls which allows them to go in full tank mode.
Grab a top notch prospect like Wiggins and pair them up with the guys you already have. If Rose can come back to be his former self you are looking at a potential dynasty.
This is how you win games folks. Trading for Luol Deng when your a below average squad doesn't!
[QUOTE=Haymaker]Nets should try and get Bynum to make up for Lopez's injury. Not that Bynum is a healthy player, but it's better than nothing.[/QUOTE]
they need to play Blatche more. he's underrated.
[QUOTE=hawkfan]Deng will get a big contract this year, say 4 years, 56 million.
The Cavs have no choice, [B]since they gave up so much to get him[/B].[/QUOTE]
two 2nd rounders, a heavily protected Sac 1st rounder and the rights to swap for the Cavs 2015 pick (only if the Cavs make the playoffs) is hardly ''so much'' :facepalm
[QUOTE=D-Wait]two 2nd rounders, a heavily protected Sac 1st rounder and the rights to swap for the Cavs 2015 pick (only if the Cavs make the playoffs) is hardly ''so much'' :facepalm[/QUOTE]
The Bulls can take the 2 2nd round picks and swap them out to move into the first round in the 18-30 range in the draft, because there usually are a few teams that are looking to save cap space for a free agent run.
So effectively, the Cavs gave up 2 first round picks.
And that is just for this season. The Cavs could simply have waited until the summer to sign him then and not give up anything. But the Cavs are still fighting for this season.
Also we don't know if the Cavs wanted to include Anthony Bennett in the deal instead or whether the Bulls didn't want him.
[QUOTE=Meticode]A lot of people are ignorant in this thread. It's a chance the organization is going to take and I'm fine with it. The Knicks go out and trade for a player where they are the weakest at, at that position and people crucify them for it. I see a lot of...
"OMG Knicks got robbed, they traded 3 picks for it!"
...they act like we gave up 3 top 10 guaranteed picks for Bargnani. Two of them are second rounders, and the protected pick is a Nuggets swap pick.
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Fixed.
Once again, a team being praised for tanking. The NBA, ladies and gentlemen.....:hammerhead:
[QUOTE=hawkfan]The Bulls can take the 2 2nd round picks and swap them out to move into the first round in the 18-30 range in the draft, because there usually are a few teams that are looking to save cap space for a free agent run.
So effectively, the Cavs gave up 2 first round picks.
And that is just for this season. The Cavs could simply have waited until the summer to sign him then and not give up anything. But the Cavs are still fighting for this season.
Also we don't know if the Cavs wanted to include Anthony Bennett in the deal instead or whether the Bulls didn't want him.[/QUOTE]
effectively they really gave up 3 second rounders because the kings aren't making the playoffs anytime soon. Yes the bulls can theoretically package the picks to make moves which is exactly what the cavs did when they had him.
Anthony Bennett? I don't think he'd be on the trading block so soon, but either him or TT could be moved sometime down the road.
so it is possible deng play tonight? or 0% chance
How fcuking retarded is Cleveland?
edit: Wait a minute. Was it Chicago that gave Cleveland the picks? :wtf:
[QUOTE=NumberSix]How fcuking retarded is Cleveland?
edit: Wait a minute. Was it Chicago that gave Cleveland the picks? :wtf:[/QUOTE]
Shut up idiot
[QUOTE=DukeDelonte13]effectively they really gave up 3 second rounders because the kings aren't making the playoffs anytime soon. Yes the bulls can theoretically package the picks to make moves which is exactly what the cavs did when they had him.
Anthony Bennett? I don't think he'd be on the trading block so soon, but either him or TT could be moved sometime down the road.[/QUOTE]
Deng is a very good player, but more importantly he can change the basketball culture for the team.
And the owner is saying - we've spent enough time in the lottery, let's get in the playoffs.
Also, he is looking at the young players and see which player are going to grow and which ones won't.
[QUOTE=ripthekik]so it is possible deng play tonight? or 0% chance[/QUOTE]
The trade was announced last night at like 2 AM Eastern so chances are about 0.1% chance of Deng playing tonight. Debut will probably be Friday against the Jazz.
Count down to D-Rose for asking for a trade.
[QUOTE=Kujo]Count down to D-Rose for asking for a trade.[/QUOTE]
..and he will end up nowhere with that contract of his.
[QUOTE=hawkfan]The Bulls can take the 2 2nd round picks and swap them out to move into the first round in the 18-30 range in the draft, because there usually are a few teams that are looking to save cap space for a free agent run.
So effectively, the Cavs gave up 2 first round picks.
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This is an awful post.
First off, the Sac pick is almost certainly going to be a second round pick as they absolutely won't be out of the bottom 12 this year and it looks doubtful they will be out of the bottom 10 the following two years. So its a Sac 2nd rd pick in 2017.
The 2nd rd picks are both from Portland. So you are looking at ~56-58 this year and late next year. The two of them together MIGHT garner a ~#45 pick but I doubt it (last year the Bucks traded #43 and next year's #2 for #38).
So Cle gave up NO first round picks and there is at best a ~50/50 Chicago even gets a player that will make their roster.
Cavs still got their first round and second picks this year. Cavs are set here.
[QUOTE=Clutch]So you're telling me that the Cavs gave up 3 or 4 picks to rent Luol Deng for half of season.
Not LeBron James,not Kevin Durant,but Luol Deng.
Cavs :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:[/QUOTE]
2 second rounders and the kings pick could end up a second rounder and then an option to swap picks. So we maybe just have up 3 second round picks. Anyone who thinks cleveland hosed is just one of those people who think it's the in thing to make fun of the cavs. And we could resign him.
[QUOTE=NumberSix]How fcuking retarded is Cleveland?
edit: Wait a minute. Was it Chicago that gave Cleveland the picks? :wtf:[/QUOTE]
People acting like we gave up 3 first round picks lmao. Both teams got what they wAnted and if say we made out much better in the trade. Gave up a guy we were gonna waive and some 2nd rounders for deng and people are saying we got hosed? Lmao
good trade for cleveland