Jordan's help. Wow.

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[COLOR="White"]...........[/COLOR][B][COLOR="Red"]Jordan's jumpshot was better than Curry's from inside 20 feet:[/COLOR][/B]



[B][COLOR="White"].....................[/COLOR][url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]MJ 1997[/url][COLOR="White"]...................[/COLOR][url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season]Curry 2015[/Url][/B][COLOR="White"]............ [/COLOR][b][url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201939/stats/shooting/]Curry 2016[/url][/B] [size="1"][B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]<--- links to nba.com data[/COLOR][/B][/size]

[B]5-9 ft[/B].......... 49.2%, 126 fga........... 40.3%, 72 fga.......... 53.1%, 32 fga

[B]10-14 ft[/B]....... 51.5%, 466 fga........... 52.9%, 85 fga.......... 52.2%, 23 fga

[B]15-19 ft[/B]....... 49.5%, 594 fga........... 43.9%, 132 fga........ 41.7%, 48 fga



[b]Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)[/b]

JORDAN 1997: 49.3%, 1202 fga
CURRY[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 2015: 41.1%, 285 fga
CURRY[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 2016: 45.1%, 82 fga
LEBRON 2015: 37.0%, 343 fga
LEBRON 2016: 31.9%, 119 fga

[I][COLOR="navy"]Anyone who disagrees that MJ is a better shooter than Curry inside 20 feet must explain why Curry shoots far worse percentage inside 20 feet.. [/COLOR][/I]



[QUOTE=Wade's Rings]

Jordan had scored all 9 fourth quarter points for the Bulls before Paxson's 3.

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[COLOR="White"]...............[/COLOR][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"]Percentage of points scored while player is on floor[/COLOR][/SIZE]


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[COLOR="White"]........................[/COLOR][B]RS[/B][COLOR="White"].....[/COLOR][B]RS 4th[/B][COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR] [B]PO[/B][COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR][B]PO 4th[/B][COLOR="White"]....[/COLOR][B]Finals[/B][COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] [B]Finals 4th[/B]


[I]JORDAN 1997[/I].... 36.0..... 40.1..... 37.7..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4][I][B]46.3[/B][/I][/url]...... 40.9...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4][I][B]50.4[/B][/I][/url]
[I]JORDAN 1998[/I].... 36.3..... 42.1..... 39.7..... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4][I][B]48.8[/B][/I][/url]...... 43.6...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/893/stats/usage/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4][I][B]49.1[/B][/I][/url]


[I]LEBRON 2009[/I].... 35.0..... 39.3..... 41.5..... 42.4
[I]LEBRON 2010[/I].... 34.6..... 44.4..... 32.6..... 40.3
[I]LEBRON 2011[/I].... 32.0..... 32.8..... 28.1..... 30.7...... 21.4...... [url=http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/2544/stats/usage/?Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Playoffs&Period=4&PORound=4][B][I]14.8[/I][/B][/url]
[I]LEBRON 2012[/I].... 34.2..... 33.8..... 34.5..... 34.9...... 30.0...... 33.3
[I]LEBRON 2013[/I].... 32.1..... 32.1..... 30.6..... 36.0...... 29.3...... 39.1
[I]LEBRON 2014[/I].... 33.1..... 38.2..... 35.3..... 32.1...... 39.6...... 29.5
[I]LEBRON 2015[/I].... 30.1..... 38.9..... 35.0..... 42.4...... 40.0...... 44.5
[I]LEBRON 2016[/I].... 33.4..... 40.9

[I]CURRY 2015[/I]..... 29.9..... 36.2...... 33.4..... 36.6...... 29.3...... 40.6
[I]CURRY 2016[/I]..... 35.1..... 40.7


[B]CONCLUSIONS:[/B]

[I]1) As you can see, Jordan scored the highest percentage of his team's points while he was on the floor BY FAR, including 45-50% of his team's 4th quarter points in playoffs and Finals.

2) Lebron and Curry's proportion of their team's points often DECLINED in the 4th quarter, while Jordan's [U]always[/U] increased, and significantly.[/i]

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[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]MJ made a ton of jumpshots that Curry can't make:[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]


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MJ is the only player in history that routinely took hangtime jumpshots [I][COLOR="Navy"]as a regular part of his game[/COLOR][/I] - he has hundreds of these, in addition to all the highly-contested fadeaways and pullups.

A huge proportion of MJ's league-leading scoring consisted of jumpers and it's [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11992303&postcount=201]statistical fact[/url] that he shot MUCH better on jumpshots inside 20 feet than Curry - MJ had a huge spot-up, jj redick game from midrange and he probably made more jumpshots each season than anyone else in the NBA, at elite efficiency too..

This means he's simply one of the greatest jumpshooters of all time - he's by far the best jumshooter out of anyone that could double pump from the ft line.

[quote=feyki]

Horace Grant - He could main rebounder in every team. Solid rim protector , good on ball defender and versatile defender .

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Grant averaged 11/8 during his years alongside Jordan and for his career.

[I]He was a role player - virtually every team in the history of the game has one or more players like this[/I].


[QUOTE=feyki]

B.J Armstrong - Just [B]good scorer[/B] and good guard .

Harper - Solid perimeter defender . Solid playmaker . And great physicality .

Paxson - Solid sharpshooter , who is saved 93 finals ..

Kerr - Good sharpshooter

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What a ****ing joke - Armstrong (12 ppg), Harper (8 ppg), Kerr (7 ppg), Paxson (6 ppg) were all average role players - EVERY team has players like this - they didn't make the Bulls "stacked".

You would never give props to Chalmers or JJ Redick this way - but you HAVE to give extra props to Jordan's role players, because Jordan's team is so top heavy.

You're forced to act like Kerr, Paxson, Armstrong, Grant, and Harper are unique, when they're standard on every ****ing team in history.


[QUOTE=feyki]

Rodman - Greatest rebounder in history . [B]Versatile defender[/B] . Great man to defender

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Rodman was 34 years old when he joined the Bulls and was no longer a versatile defender or all-star caliber player - he hadn't made an all-star team since 1992.

More importantly, show me where a team won the championship with their PF averaging 4/8 on 37% in the playoffs, like Rodman did in 1997 playoffs and 1998 Finals.

Do you realize he wasn't even a starter in the 1998 playoffs and Finals??.. Phil benched him for poor play - in the 1997 and 1998 playoffs, Rodman had literally a COUPLE good defensive efforts, and that was it - he was garbage the rest of the time.

The reality is that Rodman's last good year was 1996.. By 1997 and 1998, he was the same washed up, garbage player he was for the Lakers in 1999, but no one noticed because "Da Bulls" were 3-peating.
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I love you too 3ball .

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[SIZE="4"]Who assisted on highest proportion of Bulls FG's in playoffs during 6-peat?[/SIZE]


Jordan did, as the stats show [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11713121&postcount=49]here[/url].. This shouldn't be a surprise, since he led the Bulls in APG for most playoff runs.

The remarkable thing is that he led the Bulls in passing [I]while carrying[/I] the biggest scoring load ever, BY FAR - no all-time great led their team in scoring for every playoff series of their careers, EXCEPT Jordan, who did so by an average margin of [url=http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920]15.4[/url] ppg.

This is why it's funny when a new fan says that Jordan's teams were IDEALLY built around him - obviously, it isn't IDEAL for anyone to carry such a goat scoring load, while also leading the team in passing, while also being the best defender ever at their position.. Obviously, that isn't IDEAL.. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=sundizz]1. Scottie Pippen
The 2nd best perimeter player of the 90's. Arguably the best perimeter defender of all time.

2. Dennis Rodman
The best rebounder of all time and one of the mos versatile defenders of all time. He put up seasons of 14.9 rpg, 16.1 rpg, and 15.0 rpg in his seasons with the Bulls.

3. Horace Grant
Played with the Bulls for 7 seasons until 93-94. The epitome of a perfect role player. Was a consistent player with a deady midrange jumper and outstanding defense. Peaked in his final Chicago season with outstanding averages of 15.1 ppg, 11.0 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.1 spg, 1.2 bpg on 52%.

4. Toni Kukoc
Came in right after Horace left. Played with the Bulls from 93-94 up through Jordan's retirement. A lefty, solid playmaker, and smooth handles. What else would you expect out of another of Jordan's superstar teammates? Came over already established and in his prime at the age of 25. In his 2nd season with the Bulls he put up a cool 15.7 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.3 spg on 50%.

5. Charles Oakley
He played with Jordan before he learned how to collect and utilize talent amazingly (while berating it needlessly). They had a stint together in the 87-88 season where the Oak Tree dropped a more than respectable 12.4 ppg, 13.0 rpg, and 3.0 dimes. All while being a tree.

6. BJ Armstrong
A steadfast point guard that was reliable. Beyond reliable in reality - a great running mate. Stuck it out on the Bulls from 89-95. Learned the game (while being a great bench player) his first three years with good numbers. Peaked at the right time as a starter in the 93-94 season with a solid and efficient scoring line of 14.8 ppg, 3.9 apg on 48%, 44%, 86%

7. Ron Harper
Was a stat stuffer. Came to the Bulls to become a winner and increase their already league leading talent pool. What'd he drop the year before he joined the Bulls? An inspired 20.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.9 spg performance with some high level defense.

And a bunch of white guys that spread the floor as knock down shooters.

Has there ever been such a loaded roster as the ones Jordan enjoyed? I used to think Kobe or Bron had help but remembering history has shown that even the collusion titles of Bran pale in comparison to the talent dump the Bulls were. It's no surprise that they were still title contenders without him. Did he come back because his legacy would of been hurt by them winning a chip without him, or because he truly wanted the challenge of playing with an unfairly stacked team to win chips against significantly inferior opposition?[/QUOTE]
3 HOF'er on one team fueled by Jordan getting 6 titles.
Can't replace Jordan for those 2 other hof'ers to be in a the Hall. /

[QUOTE=3ball].
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="3"]MJ made a ton of jumpshots that Curry can't make:[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]




[/QUOTE]

Please do not put Curry next to MJ EVER.
Curry can't even be in the same breath as Jordan (.)

[QUOTE=jstern]I realize that Kerr is a very famous name. Former analyst, just won an NBA championship as a coach. But can you imagine going back in time to the 90s and saying that the Bulls are stacked because they have Steve Kerr. He's one name in particular, that young teenagers who hate Jordan think he was a hall of fame, All Star player.

Then you have players like Horace Grant. Who would know anything about Horace Grant if he wasn't a name associated with those Bulls team. BJ Armstrong. Are you kidding me?

The Bulls were top heavy, but they did have many role players that knew their role.[/QUOTE]
Exactly! Historical revisionism runs rampant on these forums.

[QUOTE=dubeta]1-9


thats all that needs to be said[/QUOTE]
3-13 :roll:

[QUOTE=sundizz]1. Scottie Pippen
The 2nd best perimeter player of the 90's. Arguably the best perimeter defender of all time.

2. Dennis Rodman
The best rebounder of all time and one of the mos versatile defenders of all time. He put up seasons of 14.9 rpg, 16.1 rpg, and 15.0 rpg in his seasons with the Bulls.

3. Horace Grant
Played with the Bulls for 7 seasons until 93-94. The epitome of a perfect role player. Was a consistent player with a deady midrange jumper and outstanding defense. Peaked in his final Chicago season with outstanding averages of 15.1 ppg, 11.0 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.1 spg, 1.2 bpg on 52%.

4. Toni Kukoc
Came in right after Horace left. Played with the Bulls from 93-94 up through Jordan's retirement. A lefty, solid playmaker, and smooth handles. What else would you expect out of another of Jordan's superstar teammates? Came over already established and in his prime at the age of 25. In his 2nd season with the Bulls he put up a cool 15.7 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.3 spg on 50%.

5. Charles Oakley
He played with Jordan before he learned how to collect and utilize talent amazingly (while berating it needlessly). They had a stint together in the 87-88 season where the Oak Tree dropped a more than respectable 12.4 ppg, 13.0 rpg, and 3.0 dimes. All while being a tree.

6. BJ Armstrong
A steadfast point guard that was reliable. Beyond reliable in reality - a great running mate. Stuck it out on the Bulls from 89-95. Learned the game (while being a great bench player) his first three years with good numbers. Peaked at the right time as a starter in the 93-94 season with a solid and efficient scoring line of 14.8 ppg, 3.9 apg on 48%, 44%, 86%

7. Ron Harper
Was a stat stuffer. Came to the Bulls to become a winner and increase their already league leading talent pool. What'd he drop the year before he joined the Bulls? An inspired 20.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.9 spg performance with some high level defense.

And a bunch of white guys that spread the floor as knock down shooters.

Has there ever been such a loaded roster as the ones Jordan enjoyed? I used to think Kobe or Bron had help but remembering history has shown that even the collusion titles of Bran pale in comparison to the talent dump the Bulls were. I[B]t's no surprise that they were still title contenders without him.[/B] Did he come back because his legacy would of been hurt by them winning a chip without him, or because he truly wanted the challenge of playing with an unfairly stacked team to win chips against significantly inferior opposition?[/QUOTE]

It was a completely different team without MJ. The 6 best players after Pippen were not on the team the next year.

:roll:

MJ didn't have advantages like Bron did, which was to join a team with an all-star in his prime (Big Z). Also Wade is a better player than Pippen ever was. The fact that Lebron could not do what MJ did and go 6/6 with 6 FVMP and never allow a game 7 despite having better help than MJ just speaks volumes about his inferiority relative to MJ. Now go show me a finals game where MJ gets destroyed by a guy like Terry, the way Terry destroyed Lebron.

Big Z, Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love.... how much help does this guy need to only be 3/7?

So what I gather from this thread is that Jordan had some of the most stacked teams of all time during his championship runs and his competition was some of the weakest of any era.

[QUOTE=AirBonner]So what I gather from this thread is that Jordan had some of the most stacked teams of all time during his championship runs and his competition was some of the weakest of any era.[/QUOTE]

Bunch of retards in this therad #fvckyouMillennials

Hail to the GOAT
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[QUOTE=sundizz]1. Scottie Pippen
The 2nd best perimeter player of the 90's. Arguably the best perimeter defender of all time.

2. Dennis Rodman
The best rebounder of all time and one of the mos versatile defenders of all time. He put up seasons of 14.9 rpg, 16.1 rpg, and 15.0 rpg in his seasons with the Bulls.

3. Horace Grant
Played with the Bulls for 7 seasons until 93-94. The epitome of a perfect role player. Was a consistent player with a deady midrange jumper and outstanding defense. Peaked in his final Chicago season with outstanding averages of 15.1 ppg, 11.0 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.1 spg, 1.2 bpg on 52%.

4. Toni Kukoc
Came in right after Horace left. Played with the Bulls from 93-94 up through Jordan's retirement. A lefty, solid playmaker, and smooth handles. What else would you expect out of another of Jordan's superstar teammates? Came over already established and in his prime at the age of 25. In his 2nd season with the Bulls he put up a cool 15.7 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.3 spg on 50%.

5. Charles Oakley
He played with Jordan before he learned how to collect and utilize talent amazingly (while berating it needlessly). They had a stint together in the 87-88 season where the Oak Tree dropped a more than respectable 12.4 ppg, 13.0 rpg, and 3.0 dimes. All while being a tree.

6. BJ Armstrong
A steadfast point guard that was reliable. Beyond reliable in reality - a great running mate. Stuck it out on the Bulls from 89-95. Learned the game (while being a great bench player) his first three years with good numbers. Peaked at the right time as a starter in the 93-94 season with a solid and efficient scoring line of 14.8 ppg, 3.9 apg on 48%, 44%, 86%

7. Ron Harper
Was a stat stuffer. Came to the Bulls to become a winner and increase their already league leading talent pool. What'd he drop the year before he joined the Bulls? An inspired 20.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.9 spg performance with some high level defense.

And a bunch of white guys that spread the floor as knock down shooters.

Has there ever been such a loaded roster as the ones Jordan enjoyed? I used to think Kobe or Bron had help but remembering history has shown that even the collusion titles of Bran pale in comparison to the talent dump the Bulls were. It's no surprise that they were still title contenders without him. Did he come back because his legacy would of been hurt by them winning a chip without him, or because he truly wanted the challenge of playing with an unfairly stacked team to win chips against significantly inferior opposition?[/QUOTE]

Wow...MJ's legacy exposed

I expect at least 8 rings with all that help :eek:

[QUOTE=Manny98]I expect at least 8 rings with all that help :eek:[/QUOTE]

Only got to 6, like 13 other NBA players. Nothing too great

[QUOTE=sundizz]Modern era.

Nobody cares about that stuff - that was a different league, incomparable.

1960's: Racism. Black guys playing against a bunch of janitors.
1970's: The beginning of the the real NBA. A lot of random nonsense. A few transcendent players.
1980's: The first decade of real NBA basketball. The first construct of true teams, franchises and global impact.
1990's - current: Learned from the 80's and rode the aesthetically pleasing game of Jordan and created the modern era. Everything translates.[/QUOTE]

70's is more hippies and drugs and randomness with the ABA...

[QUOTE=Naero]The 1-9 Pippen-less record only proves that Michael Jordan needed more help to win, but what about the extent of help needed? A substantially impactful difference-maker or a modicum of additive help to get over the hump?

Scottie Pippen was only a bench-player in his first season and thus was mostly impactless in the grander scheme of the games; in fact, in 35 of the Bulls' wins in his rookie season (1987-88), Pippen played less than 25 minutes, while he played in 25-plus minutes in 11 of their losses. He obviously was a positive-impact player overall; but for such a supposedly legendary sidekick, it looks like they didn't need him to be fully serviceable to win enough games to shape the Bulls' playoff-seeding fortunes for the better.

Moreover, in the playoffs, he was mostly a non-factor in 3 of the 4 wins; he notched less than 10 points in 3 of those 4 wins. Better playoffs-seeding

George gervin too. Still not as much help as L39RON

[QUOTE=AirFederer]Bunch of retards in this therad #fvckyouMillennials

Hail to the GOAT
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The 90s - where palming a ball is considered black magic :oldlol:

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.]The 90s - where palming a ball is considered black magic :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
:lol :lol

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.]The 90s - where palming a ball is considered black magic :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

:lol

[QUOTE=sundizz;11976072]1. Scottie Pippen
The 2nd best perimeter player of the 90's. Arguably the best perimeter defender of all time.

2. Dennis Rodman
The best rebounder of all time and one of the mos versatile defenders of all time. He put up seasons of 14.9 rpg, 16.1 rpg, and 15.0 rpg in his seasons with the Bulls.

3. Horace Grant
Played with the Bulls for 7 seasons until 93-94. The epitome of a perfect role player. Was a consistent player with a deady midrange jumper and outstanding defense. Peaked in his final Chicago season with outstanding averages of 15.1 ppg, 11.0 rpg, 3.4 apg, 1.1 spg, 1.2 bpg on 52%.

4. Toni Kukoc
Came in right after Horace left. Played with the Bulls from 93-94 up through Jordan's retirement. A lefty, solid playmaker, and smooth handles. What else would you expect out of another of Jordan's superstar teammates? Came over already established and in his prime at the age of 25. In his 2nd season with the Bulls he put up a cool 15.7 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.3 spg on 50%.

5. Charles Oakley
He played with Jordan before he learned how to collect and utilize talent amazingly (while berating it needlessly). They had a stint together in the 87-88 season where the Oak Tree dropped a more than respectable 12.4 ppg, 13.0 rpg, and 3.0 dimes. All while being a tree.

6. BJ Armstrong
A steadfast point guard that was reliable. Beyond reliable in reality - a great running mate. Stuck it out on the Bulls from 89-95. Learned the game (while being a great bench player) his first three years with good numbers. Peaked at the right time as a starter in the 93-94 season with a solid and efficient scoring line of 14.8 ppg, 3.9 apg on 48%, 44%, 86%

7. Ron Harper
Was a stat stuffer. Came to the Bulls to become a winner and increase their already league leading talent pool. What'd he drop the year before he joined the Bulls? An inspired 20.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.9 spg performance with some high level defense.

And a bunch of white guys that spread the floor as knock down shooters.

Has there ever been such a loaded roster as the ones Jordan enjoyed? I used to think Kobe or Bron had help but remembering history has shown that even the collusion titles of Bran pale in comparison to the talent dump the Bulls were. It's no surprise that they were still title contenders without him. Did he come back because his legacy would of been hurt by them winning a chip without him, or because he truly wanted the challenge of playing with an unfairly stacked team to win chips against significantly inferior opposition?[/QUOTE]

Wow

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Yikes

This board is the same shit over and over again for 15+ years, lol, been checking in to see if there's some serious playoff discussion but it's the same "maybe Kobe/LeBron can become MJ" crap and 90% of the discussion is some variation of that, once LeBron is done and that time is coming this board is going to just fall apart.

[QUOTE=Soundwave;14361046]This board is the same shit over and over again for 15+ years, lol, been checking in to see if there's some serious playoff discussion but it's the same "maybe Kobe/LeBron can become MJ" crap and 90% of the discussion is some variation of that, once LeBron is done and that time is coming this board is going to just fall apart.[/QUOTE]

Very true. I think its gotten worse. Just a bunch of trolls. And people dont even want to discuss teams, only players. Fans of players go out of their way to tear down their favorite players teammates which is insane. I honestly think these games today would rather their favorite player lose and have a great statistical series than win.

[QUOTE=97 bulls;14361053]Very true. I think its gotten worse. Just a bunch of trolls. And people dont even want to discuss teams, only players. Fans of players go out of their way to tear down their favorite players teammates which is insane. I honestly think these games today would rather their favorite player lose and have a great statistical series than win.[/QUOTE]

Living vicariously through celebrities really does seem like something which has trended up in the last few decades. Online social networks probably push people in that direction.

[QUOTE=Soundwave;14361046]This board is the same shit over and over again for 15+ years, lol, been checking in to see if there's some serious playoff discussion but it's the same "maybe Kobe/LeBron can become MJ" crap and 90% of the discussion is some variation of that, once LeBron is done and that time is coming this board is going to just fall apart.[/QUOTE]
When kong lost in the first round of the playoffs recently, you'd notice that some users have surfaced after awakening from their deep slumber lol.

[QUOTE=Axe;14361172]When kong lost in the first round of the playoffs recently, you'd notice that some users have surfaced after awakening from their deep slumber lol.[/QUOTE]


The first round thing is a poor topic because low seeds lose in the first round and high seeds win.

In lebron's case, he always got several years to develop his team into a favored, high seed before entering the 06' playoffs, while Jordan was thrown into the playoffs in Year 1 with a low seed.

So "1-9" compares 3rd year high seeds to 1st year eight seeds... But as soon as Lebron got his first low seed, he was demolished like everyone else, despite a HOF teammate winning 2 games.

[QUOTE=3ball;14361175]The first round thing is a poor topic because low seeds lose in the first round and high seeds win.

In lebron's case, he always got several years to develop his team into a favored, high seed before entering the 06' playoffs, while Jordan was thrown into the playoffs in Year 1 with a low seed.

So "1-9" compares 3rd year high seeds to 1st year eight seeds... But as soon as Lebron got his first low seed, he was demolished like everyone else, despite a HOF teammate winning 2 games.[/QUOTE]
Stfu!

Scottie pippen was the best player of the soft 90s, biatch.