Will Anthony Davis suffer the same fate as Bosh and Love?

[QUOTE=tpols]buuuullshit. :lol

Scottie Pippen was a top 5 lotto pick in the NBA's golden era.

Draymond green was a second rounder.[/QUOTE]
Dray was a scholarship athlete at MSU, while Pip was a waterboy at Central Arkansas

Ultimately, both are considered late bloomers that took 3 seasons before they were viable NBA players

Dray developed into an equal or better shooter, passer, and rebounder than Pippen.. pippen is only a better slasher

It's simply not a stretch to say that Dray is Pippen without the tomahawk or 2nd option status, and the stats show this below:

[COLOR="DarkRed"][i]PIPPEN 91-93' PLAYOFFS[/I]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 20.3.... 8.2.. 6.1.. 53.6 ts.. 3.4 tov.. 2nd option[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Navy"][i]DRAY[color="white"]....[/color] 15-16' PLAYOFFS[/i]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 14.6.. 10.0.. 5.6.. 53.5 ts.. 2.6 tov.. 3rd option[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"][i]PIPPEN 96-98' PLAYOFFS[/i]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 17.6.... 7.4.. 5.0.. 50.0 ts.. 2.5 tov.. 2nd option[/COLOR]

[QUOTE=3ball]Dray was a scholarship athlete at MSU, while Pip was a waterboy at Central Arkansas
[/QUOTE]



but if thats the case why was scottie taken top 5, and dray not top 30?

cmon breh... pippen was more talented. Hes basically a 6'9 sleek super dray.

I[QUOTE=tpols]but if thats the case why was scottie taken top 5, and dray not top 30?

cmon breh... pippen was more talented. Hes basically a 6'9 sleek super dray.[/QUOTE]
There's a lot of guys that are more athletic and slicker than Duncan, but they aren't better

Look how many horrible series Pippen had [U]as 2nd option[/U].. routinely getting 15 on 35%

Pippen and Dray are both defensive players with limitations on their offense - I don't believe there's a material gap between them -

Take Dray from Game 7 in 2016 - that's as good as Pippen ever played - Dray became 2nd option with his teammates slanking and would've had FMVP over the league scoring champ if Kyrie misses... Pip was never close to that..

And Pip was mechanical - not that slick - look at Pippen's shot attempt right before Kukoc gets the nod by Phil in 1994 - pip is a joke offensively.. looked like he just learned how to play yesterday on that play... That's a microcosm of his offensive ability when guys get up in his chest and play that real D

[QUOTE=RRR3]Yeah MJ needed proof that THIS guy wasn

[QUOTE=TheMan]You're all over the place, pal.

So Robert Parish isn't soft because he hammered Bill Laimbeer with a cheap shot, that's proof he wasn't soft according to you but LeBron, who has never thrown a punch in his whole career in the NBA, isn't soft :confusedshrug:

Please make up your mind...mmm kay?[/QUOTE]

You're soft now if you don't throw a punch? Because getting thrown out of the game like an idiot is so hard right? Way to clown it up as always.

[QUOTE=Turbo Slayer]Ether.[/QUOTE]
Forgot to log into another alt, ya fggot ass starface :lol

[QUOTE=Smoke117]You're soft now if you don't throw a punch? Because getting thrown out of the game like an idiot is so hard right? Way to clown it up as always.[/QUOTE]
Bro, fights happen all the time in every sport, tempers get flared and from time to time, ya gotta man up. No one is taking about grabbing a bat and beating someone to a bloody pulp, but when someone is trying to punk you, you gotta stand up.

[QUOTE=TheMan]You're all over the place, pal.

So Robert Parish isn't soft because he hammered Bill Laimbeer with a cheap shot, that's proof he wasn't soft according to you but LeBron, who has never thrown a punch in his whole career in the NBA, isn't soft :confusedshrug:

Please make up your mind...mmm kay?[/QUOTE]
Do you understand nuance?

Parish doing that clearly showed he was willing to throw hands and wasn’t to be ****ed with. Not doing stuff like that doesn’t make you soft, though, it probably means you don’t think getting thrown out of the game is worth macho posturing and are able to control your temper.

[QUOTE=TheMan]Bro, fights happen all the time in every sport, tempers get flared and from time to time, ya gotta man up. No one is taking about grabbing a bat and beating someone to a bloody pulp, but when someone is trying to punk you, you gotta stand up.[/QUOTE]
Or you can be smart and let your game do the talking and not hurt your team by getting ejected.

[QUOTE=RRR3]Or you can be smart and let your game do the talking and not hurt your team by getting ejected.[/QUOTE]
Nope..

Do you realize that if Lebron was a borderline NBA talent, his current mentality of being scared to fight would ensure that he [I]doesn't[/I] make it?... Another borderline guy that was willing to scrap would undoubtedly make it in his place.. I promise

[QUOTE=TheMan]Bro, fights happen all the time in every sport, tempers get flared and from time to time, ya gotta man up. No one is taking about grabbing a bat and beating someone to a bloody pulp, but when someone is trying to punk you, you gotta stand up.[/QUOTE]

If you're the best player on the team your job is to check your temper and stay on the court.

[QUOTE=TheMan]Bro, fights happen all the time in every sport, tempers get flared and from time to time, ya gotta man up. No one is taking about grabbing a bat and beating someone to a bloody pulp, but when someone is trying to punk you, you gotta stand up.[/QUOTE]

Like how Parish punked MJ

[QUOTE=Smoke117]Anthony Davis doesn't need to dominate the ball. That's not his game. Sixty two percent of his shots were assisted on this past season and 69% are assisted on for his career. He's not going to dominate the ball for the simple reason that, that isn't his game. Davis is a great star to team up with LeBron for this reason. He's going to get a lot of easy buckets off LeBron's playmaking.[/QUOTE]

I understand the lobs and setting up AD for open jumpers but he gotta let him dominate the ball at least in the RS. Davis might get assisted on a lot of his shots (like most big men) since he doesn't initiate the offense but he's really good at creating his own shot and that puts more pressure on the defense. You don't want a 35 y.o Bron to be out there dominating the ball for 35-40 minutes a game during the RS.

Maybe "dominating" is not the right word, but they should let Davis get the most shots on offense to take the load off James, at least in the Regular Season.

AD will be first option
kuzma 2nd option
old man bran= 3rd

He will for sure, his stats will definitly take a hit aslong Lebron is there, but there is a chance AD will win a ring tho.


1st option - LBJ avg 27/8/7

2nd option - AD avg 26/12/3

3rd option - Kuzma 15/5/3


Something like that.

[QUOTE=AirTupac]Probably. They dont call it Bron ball for nothing.[/QUOTE]
Whoops.

AD is scoring more points per 100 possessions this year (37.1 to 36.5) and has a higher TS% (59.9% to 59.7%)



Bran ball amirite

Bosh and Love went from 1st options to 3rd options, and were weak minded and overrated to begin with.

AD went from 1st option to 2nd option and is actually great.

[QUOTE=RRR3]AD is scoring more points per 100 possessions this year (37.1 to 36.5) and has a higher TS% (59.9% to 59.7%)



Bran ball amirite[/QUOTE]

:facepalm It has nothing to do with lefraud and everything to do with AD getting better as a player and refusing to allow bran ball to take place when he is on the court, unlike love and bosh who tolerated it.

[QUOTE=egokiller]:facepalm It has nothing to do with lefraud and everything to do with AD getting better as a player and refusing to allow bran ball to take place when he is on the court, unlike love and bosh who tolerated it.[/QUOTE]
AD is an enormous LeBron stan. He

[QUOTE=RRR3]AD is an enormous LeBron stan. He

[QUOTE=yoyoyoitsyaboyegokillah]He told him flat out that he's not playing that bron ball shit. Why do you think you no longer see that style of offense happening when both are on the court. You think it's just a coincidence? :roll:[/QUOTE]
Sources=the voices inside your head.












:yaohappy:

[QUOTE=RRR3]AD is an enormous LeBron stan. He’s not telling LeBron shit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]
[SIZE="5"]Anthony Davis: I want to hold LeBron James accountable, ensure he makes All-Defensive team[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]“I want to be Defensive Player of the Year,” Davis told Yahoo Sports. “I think if I’m able to do that, I can help this team win. The offensive end will come around, but defensively, I want to hold myself, teammates, including LeBron, accountable in order for us to take on the challenge of being the best we can defensively. In doing so, we’ll have a good chance of winning every night. I want to make sure me and LeBron are on the All-Defensive Team. And for me personally, I just want to be the Defensive Player of the Year. If we’re able to hold teams under 100 [points], which is probably unrealistic but it should be our goal, I think we’ll have a shot at winning the title.”[/QUOTE]

AD is demanding LeBron makes a defensive team while he gets DPOY

Anthony Davis the Big D getting alpha AF :applause:


Sources: [url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/nba.nbcsports.com/2019/09/09/anthony-davis-i-want-to-hold-lebron-james-accountable-ensure-he-makes-all-defensive-team/amp/[/url]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Sources=the voices inside your head. [/QUOTE]

No sources = watching bran ball not being played when both are on the court.

Another one

Too EZ :applause:

[QUOTE=egokiller]No sources = watching bran ball not being played when both are on the court.

Another one

Too EZ :applause:[/QUOTE]
LeBron is still ball dominant.




Oops.

[QUOTE=RRR3]LeBron is still ball dominant.




Oops.[/QUOTE]

When both are on the court, the same shit style of bron ball where he makes the rest of the team resort to being spot up shooters isn't happening.

Another one.

[QUOTE=egokiller]:facepalm It has nothing to do with lefraud and everything to do with AD getting better as a player and refusing to allow bran ball to take place when he is on the court, unlike love and bosh who tolerated it.[/QUOTE]

Oh shit, AD just got better in his 8th season?

Rare for today

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater]Oh shit, AD just got better in his 8th season?

Rare for today[/QUOTE]

AD is a very rare player. He

[QUOTE=egokiller]:facepalm It has nothing to do with lefraud and everything to do with AD getting better as a player and refusing to allow bran ball to take place when he is on the court, unlike love and bosh who tolerated it.[/QUOTE]
Lebron’s time of possession has gone UP this season from last season dumbass. :oldlol:

AD randomly improved in his 8th season the moment he joins the lakers but it has nothing to do with Bron lmao?

[QUOTE=Bankaii][B]Lebron

[QUOTE=Bankaii]Lebron’s time of possession has gone UP this season from last season dumbass. :oldlol:

AD randomly improved in his 8th season the moment he joins the lakers but it has nothing to do with Bron lmao?[/QUOTE]

It's not about total time of possession you mental midget. :oldlol: It's about what play style is lebron using when AD is on the court, and it's not bron ball. AD won't let him do it. Too alpha over him. You can try to grasp at any metric or stat you like, but eye test doesn't lie. Also last season to this season is only one data point.

OP in shambles :yaohappy:

[QUOTE=RRR3]Damn. Another new account coming up for straight_altin?[/QUOTE]

Leave it to this fool to tip his hand too soon before the cards are all on the table. :lol

Stop making it so easy for me Joshua. :roll:

And to think you can avoid this embarrassment for yourself by actually watching the game and understanding that bron ball isn't being used when AD is on the court. :applause:

[QUOTE=warriorfan]AD is a very rare player. He

[QUOTE=egokiller]It's not about total time of possession you mental midget. :oldlol: It's about what play style is lebron using when AD is on the court, and it's not bron ball. AD won't let him do it. Too alpha over him. You can try to grasp at any metric or stat you like, but eye test doesn't lie. Also last season to this season is only one data point.[/QUOTE]
It has everything to do with time of possession dumbass.

[QUOTE=Bankaii]It has everything to do with time of possession dumbass.
“Bron ball” is lebron being ball dominant while his teammates stand and wait, not optimizing the actual PG. you suck off 3Ball when he says that exact same thing but now it’s irrelevant:oldlol:

This team’s offense runs as Lebron dictates it. You can cry about it all you want but it’s his offense. You’re such a clown. You’re like 40+ years old go do something with your life besides trolling.[/QUOTE]

Wheels.....stop watching box scores and start watching games. When AD is in the game, lebron doesn't go with "bron ball" because AD doesn't allow it. Now go post on you other account and update your favorite thread like a good lil roller:

[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407008&page=41[/url]

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]If you cant tell the difference between ineffective unchecked production of no consequence and playing in a winning situation with worse numbers you shouldnt be talking ball to begin with. A good player on a shit team is gonna be free to go to his spots and do as he pleases all game.....and lose. A good player playing with other good players will no be able to do as he pleases as often....and may produce worse numbers while winning. He wont be the guy plays are run for to get the ball where he wants it. He wont take 8 shots in the 4th to bring his team back or die trying. He wont usually play the same minutes either because his team doesnt need him on the floor to play well.

Jordan, Pippen, and Kukoc dont make Ron Harper worse at basketball because he was leading the Clippers and became a role player with them. Ron put up 30/9/8 in his last full game on the clippers. Never had a game like that again. It isnt Pippen and Jordans fault. Earl Monroe was all nba first team on the Bullets and led them to the finals.....then hes on the Knicks as a role player doing 11ppg.

Not worse at basketball.

Playing different basketball.

And winning rings.

Tony Campbell was a 6ppg player on Showtime.....goes to Minnesota...puts up 23ppg. Did he learn to play basketball in 2 months? No....thats the difference between being on a champion and being the man on a team that doesnt matter. Mark Aguirre being a 25ppg player on the Mavs at 28 but a 15ppg player on the Pistons at 29 doesnt mean he forgot how to score. Neither did Adrian Dantley when he went from 30ppg 56% shooting all star to 20 a game never making the ASG again on the pistons. Nick Anderson was a 20ppg guy....but guess what? He doesnt get to be that playing with Shaq and Penny.

Antawn Jamison 25 and 22 a game on the warriors including back to back 50 point games. He doesnt do that playing for a real team in Dallas does he? You dont give the Lakers 51 when Dirk is on your team...because Dirk is the man and not you. You put up 14ppg...and you get into the playoffs for once.

Rashard Lewis is the man in Seattle...22ppg. Guess what? Hes not the man in Orlando. Dwight is the man. So he scores less and shoots worse from the field because a higher percentage of his shots are spotting up playing off the superior player. His primary value playing off a great interior player? Spacing the floor. Of course he shoots worse overall.....and has a better team for it.

Glen Rice doesnt get to have the offense run through him on the Lakers....so hes not scoring 22-27ppg anymore. Hes playing less minutes and in a 3rd guy role...Shaq and Kobe didnt "turn" him into anything. He adjusted to superior players who got to eat first. He stands back and spaces the floor like hes supposed to. And he wins a ring.

You dont go from being the man playing 39 minutes a game on a team that doesnt matter to being not just the other guy....but the OTHER other guy on a title team playing less minutes and not being the focal point and have the same production or do the same things.

How on earth is anyone still needed to be told these things in 2019?

If you dont want to give up getting the ball in your spots all the time and scoring 25ppg you stay on your shit team and be Devin Booker for 10 years....or you can:





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Kevin Love look like hed rather have the ending to his 2014 when he had 40, 43, and 19 the last 3....and lost all of them playing with Corey Brewer and Dieng?

These are grown ass men making business and personal decisions to win games at the expense of being a franchise player.

They bought their rings with a big down payment of irrelevant stats and a few installments of respect from fans who dont know anything about basketball.

Love is now in his late prime at 30 and a franchise player again on a max contract...already having had success plenty of legends dream of. Bosh has his medical issue but instead of playing his last 5 years getting steamrolled in Toronto he got to do the steam rolling and retire with the 120 million he got after getting ringed up.

Let us all "suffer" the same fate please.

I promise you....Anthony Davis WANTS to "suffer" that fate. He just spent 5 years putting up prime Hakeem numbers and demanded to leave at the cost of being the most hated man in his former city and leaving a supermax offer on the table AND giving back his 4 million dollar trade kicker trying to get his new team more talent.

That strike you as a guy likely to be upset if his numbers fall off while he wins?

Guy says keep your 250 million, **** these fans, **** this 28ppg....I demand to play with Lebron...and will give our team even more money to sign other good players....

And you think hes cares about his numbers and what you think of him more than winning?

This may be the most overt "I dont care about numbers while im losing" situation in the history of the NBA.

He just wants that game 7 lockerroom celebration. He probably watched Love and felt salty as hell. Hes out there dropping 40 and losing to the Hawks with Luke ****ing Babbit as his sidekick while love gets to score 12 points and make a great defensive stand vs Steph to win a ring because Lebron and Kyrie did the heavy lifting? And they both get paid the same? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

That Love/Bosh role was probably looking real flavorful to a lot of people at that moment. And Davis unlike them is way younger than Lebron. The Lakers are his team either now or very soon.

Hes fine. Better than fine.

Hes in about as good a position as any young star likely can be. Good team....good money...good city....great franchise. This dude is in Space jam 2.

I think he can afford to give up 3 ISOs a night and still sleep well.....[/QUOTE]
:oldlol: :applause:




bosh and love have rings as some of the best players on their championship teams. Im sure they cry themselves to sleep at night.


bosh can only brag to his grandkids about a series winning rebound and love can only brag about a series deciding possession on steph to win the ring - these poor, poor guys :oldlol:

[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.]OP in shambles :yaohappy:[/QUOTE]

I am thrilled to see that Bran has finally figured out how to effectively play with a skilled big man now that he is on my team. :applause:

[QUOTE=Doranku]I am thrilled to see that Bran has finally figured out how to effectively play with a skilled big man now that he is on my team. :applause:[/QUOTE]

He has no choice. AD won't let him resort to his past antics, and 47% of laker fans based on polls don't want him there to begin with. He's literally walking on eggshells. Yikes! :oldlol:

[QUOTE=egokiller]He has no choice. AD won't let him resort to his past antics, and 47% of laker fans based on polls don't want him there to begin with. He's literally walking on eggshells. Yikes! :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
mods can you do me a favor and confirm again that this bitch right here egokiller is the same poster as the guy who ran away - I think his username was straight_ballin?