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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[URL]https://www.deseret.com/2021/7/28/22589508/utah-jazz-jarrell-brantley-to-play-for-team-in-salt-lake-city-and-las-vegas-summer-leagues[/URL]
[QUOTE][URL="https://www.deseret.com/utah-jazz"]Utah Jazz[/URL] forward [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/4/14/22383642/despite-limited-opportunities-utah-jazz-two-way-player-jarrell-brantley-okc-thunder-nba-defense"]Jarrell Brantley[/URL] isn’t sure what the future holds, but he knows there’s a chance that he’s not on the Jazz roster for the 2021-22 season.
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for your sake I hope you find greener pastures. You're too good to be sitting while other guys don't produce
[QUOTE]Brantley will be playing on the Jazz’s summer league teams but after that, there’s no guarantee of anything. Brantley is a free agent, but not one with a lengthy resume. He could be headed to another team or even overseas by the time the 2021-22 season starts and that’s OK with him.
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all Gleague who showed he could play NBA level D in the few chances he got. He'll be fine
[QUOTE]It’s a mentality that has benefited Brantley thus far, helping him to improve on both sides of the court, gain strength and see the results. In 33 games with the Salt Lake City Stars in the 2019-20 season, Brantley shot just 33.3% from 3-point range. Despite limited and often short opportunities last season with the Jazz, Brantley shot 42.9% from deep.
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the one weakness in his game was shooting. COTY is an idiot!
[QUOTE]“A lot of those guys, they were in my situation, they were in my shoes,” Brantley said. “Royce (O’Neale) went overseas, Joe (Ingles) was from overseas, he got cut from the Clippers, Bojan (Bogdanovic) didn’t get in the league till he was (25), Georges is still trying to find his way. There’s so many guys. Like, our whole roster I can learn from.”
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Niang has found his way and was all Gleague too. The difference is he got a chance with the Jazz after that
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/the-draft-the-jazz-should-take-a-home-run-swing-tonight/[/url]
[QUOTE]No matter where the Jazz draft their players, their goal should be the same: find the best available player that can help as soon as possible. That sounds easy enough in theory, but the draft code hasn’t been cracked by any NBA decision makers. Several players drafted in the lottery will never play meaningful minutes in the league, and a handful of picks in the 30s or 40s should become rotation players. If you are a Jazz fan, I suggest that you don’t look at the team’s draft history. From Enes Kanter to Nigel-Williams-Goss, there have been so many misses. The real draft day wins were trades for Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert but those picks alone make up for dozen’s of strikeouts. But let’s put it this way: there is only one Jazz player (Mitchell) playing major rotation minutes that was acquired on draft day in the last 6 years.
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Kanter is still in the league though Jonas should have been the pick and Goss was a 2nd rounder they got a couple years out of. He actually looked good in camp last year
[QUOTE]The Jazz are ready to contend for a title now, and they only have Donovan Mitchell under team control for 4 seasons. They need to put players on the floor that can help win right now. But is that a realistic expectation of a rookie?
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under COTY no
[QUOTE]If I knew the answer to that question, I would be working in a front office, but let’s just talk about the process the Jazz might go through in evaluation. Generally speaking, I think the Jazz tend to draft offensively skilled players and hope that they can defend at an NBA level. That’s true of Enes Kanter and Alec Burks; It’s the case with Trey Burke, Rodney Hood, Trey Lyles, Tony Bradley, Grayson Allen and Justin Wright Foreman. There isn’t even college tape of Elijah Hughes playing NBA style defense, but his offensive skills are so intriguing, that you wonder how much his defense mattered in his evaluation. My main critique of the last several Jazz picks, is that they draft players who lack athleticism and the tools to ever defend at an above average ability in the NBA. We have years and years of evidence that if you can’t defend at an NBA level, you just can’t play effectively in the post season. Full stop. We weren’t good enough defensively to beat the Clippers. Even with a healthy team, the unspoken assumption is that the Jazz would have been able to outscore their opponents.
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some great length in there which was the main thing they looked at. Playing basketball was secondary. Hughes can't shoot the 3 either. Made little sense. Wright Forman was better. COTY making a move and Conley not being hurt would have made up for Mitchell and Clarkson's gunning and lack of D
[QUOTE]The Jazz’s offseason needs are a backup point guard, a small ball center, especially if they move on from Derrick Favors, and wing defense (stop me if you’ve heard this one before). I personally don’t think you should ever draft for need. That leads to drafting Trey Burke when there are at least 2 hall of famers on the board. But you do have to also consider free agency. I will do a whole post later this week on the Jazz’s free agency prospects, but to summarize, there are a few useful centers and guards to be had around the veteran minimum, especially centers. The Jazz also have a $5 million traded player exception that I think could be used to obtain a third point guard. Given the[URL="https://saltcityhoops.com/big-wings-who-defend-shoot-are-in-short-supply/"] dearth of defensive minded wings[/URL], who can guard 2 thru 4 in the league and given the number of such 6’6″-6’9″ athletes in the draft, I think the Jazz should look to take swings in that department. I mean, whatever they’ve been trying to do for the last decade has had, at best, average success. I’d take a flyer on athletes who maybe slide further down, or who played for Kentucky, or who just might need 1-2 years. I know that feels counterintuitive, but swings should be taken in the draft and the Jazz can bolster with free agency and trades. Besides, the Jazz need to be focusing on some rotational development of guys like Elijah Hughes, Udoka Azubuike and Miye Oni. One last thought: the biggest swings the Jazz have taken draft-wise in my lifetime were drafting Andrei Kirilenko and Rudy Gobert.
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their needs are dumping Favors, Clarksona and Hughes and getting a starting 4 that could play small ball 5 and protect the rim and perimeter without killing spacing. Gobert wasn't a swing. He was considered a late 1st and that's what he was. Not sure about AK. Going for a guy that stayed in Russia for two years wasn't Jazz like for sure
[QUOTE][B][I]Isaiah Todd[/I][/B]– I get the concerns, but this guy is a long athlete who can absolutely shoot the ball. He would need time to develop in the G-League, but he has all the tools. Surprised that he has received no buzz this draft season. [/QUOTE]
sounds like a prospect
[QUOTE][B][I]JT Thor[/I][/B]– He would be a lottery pick next year, so get him one year ahead of his development and groom him. Can play next to Rudy with polish.
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sounds good as well
[QUOTE][B][I]Greg Brown[/I][/B]– Pure athlete with some of the most vicious posters you will see in college basketball. Not sure he knows how to play the game, but that is why the Jazz brag about the best development coaching staff.
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pass. Exum was an athlete that never showed he was an NBA player
[QUOTE][B][I]Vrenz Bleijenbergh[/I][/B]– You just need to youtube this guy and see it for yourself. He’s a 6’10” guard that plays in Antwerp and reminds me so much of Andrei Kirilenko that I need this guy in a Jazz uniform. Probably stays overseas for a year or two, but this guy is an NBA talent.
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AK!
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/29/22566390/2021-nba-draft-coverage-ayo-dosunmu[/url]
[QUOTE]Physical: 21 years old (turns 22 next June), 6’5” with a 6’10” wingspan and 8’6” standing reach, 194 pounds
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Wizard approved
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/29/22566389/2021-nba-draft-coverage-late-2nd-rounders-and-undrafted-prospects[/url]
[QUOTE]Additionally, the Jazz scouting department has given the team significant players who were originally undrafted, from fan favorites Joe Ingles and Royce O’Neale to occasional contributors like Trent Forrest, Juwan Morgan, Chris Johnson, Elijah Millsap, and Ian Clark (that’s a throwback name!). Now under the leadership of Justin Zanik, who helped oversee many of these decisions, we will likely see the Jazz continue this trend, hopefully with positive results. [/QUOTE]
we have no idea what Zanik will bring. Hopefully their best GM ever which wouldn't be saying much
[QUOTE]Physical: 22 years old (turns 23 next May), 6’7” with a 7’1” wingspan and 8’8” standing reach, 215 pounds
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Wizard approved
[QUOTE]Physical: 20 years old (turns 21 this October), 6’10” with a 7’1” wingspan and XX standing reach, 215 pounds
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not AK like length or Wizard approved
[QUOTE]Physical: 22 years old (turns 23 on July 28th of this year), 6’7” with a 6’9” wingspan and 8’9” standing reach, 232 pounds
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not Wizard approved
[QUOTE]Livers could immediately step into Georges Niang’s role in a limited capacity and be a threat from the corners while not giving up too much defensively against bench units. If Niang ends up taking a payday and leaving the Jazz, they will need depth with a bigger shooting forward in their current scheme, so Livers could fill that role (perhaps behind Juwan Morgan). I would not use a second round pick to pick Livers, but he would be a useful addition to the Stars and Jazz system as an immediate contributor with limited upside.
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a 2nd rounder replacing Niang immediately? :facepalm
[QUOTE]Physical: 21 years old (turns 22 this November), 6’0” with a 6’1” wingspan and 7’10” standing reach, 175 pounds
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not Wizard approved
[QUOTE]Physical: 21 years old (turns 22 this November), 6’9” with a 6’10” wingspan and 9’0” standing reach, 194 pounds
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not Wizard approved
[QUOTE]EJ’s upside lies with his insane size combined with an excellent shooting touch. He stands at just about 7 feet with a 7’8.5” wingspan and 9’6” standing reach, but also shot 40% from three on 4 attempts per game his senior season. He plays with an intense fire, blocking and dunking shots with abandon, looking incredibly fluid running up and down the court. So what’s the downside?
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Wizard approved
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Criminally underrated. Was on ACC All Defense team. He can shoot the outside shot. Has lots of moves inside. Can dunk on your head.
He may not even be drafted according to some projections. He could be a crazy steal for any team.
Senior season
17pts 8reb 2ast 1.5stl 1.5blk 53/41/65
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Matt_Grbac"]Matt_Grbac[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/29/22566389/2021-nba-draft-coverage-late-2nd-rounders-and-undrafted-prospects#543000347"]Jul 29, 2021 | 8:17 AM[/URL]
6’9 225 7’1 wingspan 38" vertical [/QUOTE]
not Wizard approved
[QUOTE]If we are going to have some projects at the end of our bench, those are the type of guys I want. Not Matt Friggin’ Thomas and Trent Forrest. Those guys are 14/15th players whose ceiling is 12/13th.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-draft/2021/7/29/22566389/2021-nba-draft-coverage-late-2nd-rounders-and-undrafted-prospects#543000930"]Jul 29, 2021 | 8:30 AM[/URL]
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Forrest is good. Only question is his shooting. Thomas can shoot. Hughes is the head scratcher for me. 6 rookies was a head scratcher. COTY not playing anyone was a head scratcher
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/7/28/22566391/2021-nba-draft-coverage-joshua-primo[/url]
[QUOTE]Physical: 18 years old (turns 19 this December), 6’5” with a 6’9” wingspan and 8’6.5” standing reach, 189 pounds
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Wizard approved
[QUOTE] But don’t think the Jazz can afford to take on a project right now. Somehow need to find a way to turn that pick (maybe move Favors/Ingles) into a player that contributes immediately.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Raiderfan35"]Raiderfan35[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/7/28/22566391/2021-nba-draft-coverage-joshua-primo#542993320"]Jul 28, 2021 | 10:21 PM[/URL]
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sure they can. COTY would only play 10 guys no matter what. that leaves 7 spots for projects
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/07/28/kentucky-forward-utah-jazz-summer-league/[/url]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[url]https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263490/Jazz-Likely-To-Re-Sign-Mike-Conley[/url]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Hoop Central: Report: [URL="http://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1420815480105836545"]Lakers, Clippers, Celtics are among the teams “doing trade due-diligence” on Ricky Rubio,[/URL] via @DWolfsonKSTP
– via [URL="http://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1420815480105836545"]Twitter[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Tony Jones: Things I’m currently hearing: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]1. The Jazz are open to moving the #30 pick tonight 2. There is a specific player that could be available that is giving the Jazz a bit of pause on moving said pick (they really like this player)[/URL] 3. The Jazz are active in trade discussions
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Nothing happened yet. Wonder if the Ingles/Kuzma deal was just a backup if they couldn't get Westbrook?
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
#30 traded for #40 and 2 future 2nd rounders. Guess their guy was off the board, so remove the guaranteed money and trade down. Uninspiring.
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Tony Jones saying the Jazz wanted Jared Butler at 30, traded down and got him at 40.
Apparently the whole moving up thing was for Butler, then got intel he'd slide.
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Reported heart issue on Butler's medical the reason for him sliding.
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[QUOTE=El Kabong;14407213]Nothing happened yet. Wonder if the Ingles/Kuzma deal was just a backup if they couldn't get Westbrook?[/QUOTE]
didn't hear about that one
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[QUOTE=El Kabong;14407344]Tony Jones saying the Jazz wanted Jared Butler at 30, traded down and got him at 40.
Apparently the whole moving up thing was for Butler, then got intel he'd slide.[/QUOTE]
needed a pg/combo guard and he sounds like a fit
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Tony Jones: Guards [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Joe Chealey and Dakota Mathias will play for the Utah Jazz summer league team,[/URL] League Sources tell The Athletic
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
Shams Charania: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Utah Jazz are in serious talks on a deal to send center Derrick Favors to the Oklahoma City Thunder,[/URL] sources tell me and @Tony Jones.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania"]Twitter ShamsCharania[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Ben Anderson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The @Utah Jazz announce that they have officially agreed in principle to acquiring Jared Butler for the 30th pick but make no mention of what the other two draft picks will be[/URL]. Worth noting, the Grizzlies own their own second rounders in each of the next two drafts.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Ben Anderson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The @UtahJazz got terrific value in Jared Butler in the second round, but his medical concerns stretch beyond his heart condition[/URL]. Apparently there was significant concern about the Baylor guard’s knees heading into the draft, which may have led to his draft night slide
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[QUOTE] Ben Anderson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Justin Zanik on new @utahjazz owner Ryan Smith: “Ryan’s resources and commitment to spending are going to be at levels that we’ve never done with the Jazz.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]
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not saying much
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Michael Scotto: The Utah [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jazz have agreed to an Exhibit 10 deal with MaCio Teague (Baylor),[/URL] a league source told @*********.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto"]Twitter MikeAScotto[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14407555]didn't hear about that one[/QUOTE]
Was supposedly Kuz and 17 for Ingles and 30.
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Jazz salary dumping Favors to OKC with a 1st round pick attached for a 2nd rounder.
Preparing for a big tax bill and probably gonna have to give Conley in the $30 million range, rather than the $20-$25 million I'm guessing.
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[QUOTE=El Kabong;14407594]Jazz salary dumping Favors to OKC with a 1st round pick attached for a 2nd rounder.
Preparing for a big tax bill and probably gonna have to give Conley in the $30 million range, rather than the $20-$25 million I'm guessing.[/QUOTE]
think I've read 15-25 for Mike. Need to get rid of Clarkson too!
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Scott Agness: Former Pacers (and Mad Ants) guard [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Naz Mitrou-Long is joining Germani Brescia in Italy after four seasons in the G League.[/URL] He was a on two-way contract in 2019-20.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ScottAgness"]Twitter ScottAgness[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
hard to imagine them trading Ingles
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
JD Shaw: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Former NC State big man DJ Funderburk (@TooEvsy4) has committed to play with the Jazz during the Salt Lake City Summer League next month, per league sources[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/JShawNBA"]Twitter JShawNBA[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[QUOTE] Joe Mussatto: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Thunder officially announces the trade for Derrick Favors and a future first. OKC will send back a 2027 second and cash.[/URL] pic.twitter.com/48OHm2D1FH
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/joe_mussatto"]Twitter joe_mussatto[/URL]
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hated the signing. Giving up a first to get rid of the contract. Could have had Bradley cheap and improving and signed the PF they've needed the past two years:cry:
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Marc Stein: The [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Jazz will be pressing hard to re-sign Mike Conley, league sources say, and are preparing an offer estimated in the three-year, $75 million range.[/URL] More coming soon in my This Week In Basketball column you can get directly by signing up here: marcstein.substack.com
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine"]Twitter TheSteinLine[/URL]
Chris Haynes: Free agent point guard [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Emmanuel Mudiay — the No. 7 pick in the 2015 Draft and only 25 — intends to play Summer League for the Portland Trail Blazers,[/URL] league sources tell @YahooSports.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes"]Twitter ChrisBHaynes[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31919563/oklahoma-city-thunder-get-future-first-round-nba-draft-pick-derrick-favors-utah-jazz-sources"]Oklahoma City further added to its stockpile of future first-round picks as the Utah Jazz agreed to send a future No. 1 and center Derrick Favors to the Thunder for a future second-round pick,[/URL] sources told ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski on Friday. Before the move, the Thunder already had 12 first-round picks above and beyond their own — some of which they can swap — over the next five drafts. Oklahoma City traded the No. 16 pick in Thursday’s NBA draft to the Houston Rockets for two future first-rounders — in 2022 (via the Pistons) and 2023 (via the Wizards). The Rockets then used the selection to pick Alperen Sengun.
– via [URL="https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31919563/oklahoma-city-thunder-get-future-first-round-nba-draft-pick-derrick-favors-utah-jazz-sources"]ESPN[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
Tony Jones: Guards [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Joe Chealey and Dakota Mathias will play for the Utah Jazz summer league team,[/URL] League Sources tell The Athletic
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;14408026]think I've read 15-25 for Mike. Need to get rid of Clarkson too![/QUOTE]
Just saw we're supposedly offering 3/$75 million.
Locked into the Mitchell/Gobert/Conley trio for 3 years and see if you can put the pieces around them and hope Conley doesn't completely break down physically in that time.
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Re: 2021 Off-Season. Another short one
[QUOTE=El Kabong;14408188]Just saw we're supposedly offering 3/$75 million.
Locked into the Mitchell/Gobert/Conley trio for 3 years and see if you can put the pieces around them and hope Conley doesn't completely break down physically in that time.[/QUOTE]
you have to sign Conley. He's too good and can't be replaced. Obviously very risky. He's got to be able to play in May and June