Teague would be better on the roster than Hughes for sure
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Teague would be better on the roster than Hughes for sure
[url]https://kslsports.com/465918/jazz-mailbag-uniforms-rotation-and-ingles-future/[/url]
[QUOTE]If you’ve seen Smith in person, or simply in photos you’ll notice that he almost exclusively wears a Jazz hat that is either black with a simple black J-Note logo, or black with a white J-Note logo.
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he wears his hat like an idiot so I wouldn't get to excited about anything he decides on fashion wise
[QUOTE]So, don’t be surprised if in the coming seasons you see the Jazz with a black and white alternative jersey to go along with their white association edition jerseys and blue icon edition jerseys.
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the black or grey jerseys of teams are usually good
[QUOTE]I would suspect the minutes stay roughly the same for the starters next year as there haven’t been significant changes to the top half of the rotation.
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unfortunately
[QUOTE]Despite the criticism Quin Snyder faced for not playing his end-of-the-bench players more, it’s hard to look at those numbers and feel like anyone played too many minutes among the best rotation players.
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sure it is
[QUOTE]However, with both Rudy Gobert and Joe Ingles having played in the Olympics, and Ingles turning 34 before the season begins, I wouldn’t be surprised to see either Trent Forrest or Jared Butler get more of an opportunity as the team’s fifth guard to step in and alleviate some of the pressure on the guard-line.
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too bad Forrest is on a two way. won't happen
[QUOTE]And, if Ingles retires after the season, having a clear understanding of who the team’s replacement for him heading into the 2022-23 season would be a nice luxury.
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coming off his best season :facepalm
[QUOTE]Additionally, there’s a real argument Rudy Gobert is the Jazz best player during the regular season, and he barely played more than 30 minutes per game. That’s a great number for preserving his health, so I don’t see adjusting that number much unless Snyder has to.
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there's no argument. It's a fact
[QUOTE]He’ll be stepping into Georges Niang’s role who at times probably stayed on the floor too long just to buy O’Neale and Bogdanovic a few extra minutes of rest. Gay should fill those minutes more effectively, while Paschall’s development will likely determine whether he can squeeze into the rotation as well, though that’s yet to be determined.
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Niang was great. Great shooter and defended. Paschall will play. Mitchell's BFF
[QUOTE]However, Snyder, like most coaches seems to prefer a nine-man rotation, and even with the additions of Paschall, Jared Butler, and the return of Trent Forrest, I’d bet that doesn’t change. Where the Jazz could see more minutes for young players is via load management for his veterans which Snyder toyed with more last season.
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he did? He's gotten worse the past two years. Maybe that will change now that he got Lindsey out as he was apparently trying to do
[QUOTE]Furthermore, though he’s long, Whiteside isn’t much of a leaper or lob threat, so he won’t be the offensive threat that Gobert or Derrick Favors was last season. He has more back-to-the-basket skills than Gobert, but he even admitted in his press conference that he was told to expect fewer post touches than in the past.
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Favors! :facepalm
[QUOTE]However, Snyder has generally preferred to keep his rotations pretty consistent outside of foul trouble and injuries, and unless Gay has a strong resurgence, or Bogdanovic has a steep drop off, I don’t think his defense is good enough to close the gap between how much better Bogdanovic is on offense.
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COTY! :roll:
[QUOTE]In certain situations maybe Gay closes games, but I think O’Neale and Bogdanovic are still the Jazz best forwards.
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Gay's the best PF
[QUOTE]That feels like a steep learning curve to be to go from open gym to training camp, to preseason games, to an NBA rotation after not playing competitive basketball since April.
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He might be able to help by the end of the year. Certainly wouldn't expect it right away.
[QUOTE]First, he’s on an expiring contract valued at $14 million on a team deep in the luxury tax, and if Conley and Mitchell stay healthy, he’s the third or fourth-best guard on the roster depending on what the Jazz are getting from Jordan Clarkson.
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He's 4th if O'Neale is at guard instead of pf. Clarkson sucks!
[QUOTE]If either Butler or Forrest has proven to be worthy of a high-level rotation spot, and it seems like Ingles won’t be returning next season on a veterans minimum contract, the idea of moving Ingles for a first-round pick might be too good of an offer to pass up, especially considering the luxury tax implications.
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way too early to predict what Ingles will make next year
[QUOTE]But, we also shouldn’t overlook that Ingles is a top 100 player in the NBA, and those guys help you win in the playoffs. If the ultimate goal is to win a championship in Utah, trading Ingles probably doesn’t make you better this season.
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depends on the return. Clarkson, Hughes and COTY are the ones that need to go though
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[QUOTE]On the flip side, a player like Juwan Morgan doesn’t produce at a high level, but he continually makes good reads and good decisions. He has good rebounding position despite being undersize compared to some of the competition and he makes really crisp and on-target passes. Those are not the dazzling type of plays that are going to make a highlight reel, but they are plays that could get a guy a G League deal or a shot elsewhere.
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he can play. Then we have Hughes!
[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/13/22624137/with-a-dominant-second-half-the-utah-jazz-defeat-the-miami-heat-nba-summer-league-las-vegas[/URL]
[QUOTE]The other player that played great was Jarrell Brantley. In the second half he was knocking down threes and playing great defense. Brantley has so many great physical tools and it was nice to see him using them better and better. There were times the Jazz had him as the primary facilitor and he did a solid job. Sometimes it’s hard to tell just how effective he is at those things, especially when he's on the floor with sub-par teammates but he looked good handling and getting the offense flowing. Brantley is making himself look more and more like an NBA rotation player, he just needs to keep improving.
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just need the chance which probably won't be for COTY
[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz are now 3-0 in Las Vegas and look very poised to win the whole league. If they keep up this level they have to be one of the favorites. Their ability to score on a Forrest/Dok pick and roll surrounded by players like Jarrell Brantley and Elijah Hughes make them a tough team to stop. Combine that with their size, and rim protection from Azuibuike, this is a team that should bring Utah a summer league title.
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let's not get ahead of ourselves. Had to got to double ot tiebreaker to win one
[QUOTE]Azubuike is a shaky backup plan if Whiteside is a bust or Gobert misses time. Still a little raw but better than Bradley or Ed Davis.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/TheNextGM"]TheNextGM[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/13/22624137/with-a-dominant-second-half-the-utah-jazz-defeat-the-miami-heat-nba-summer-league-las-vegas#543633867"]Aug 13, 2021 | 8:59 PM[/URL]
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potentially better. Hasn't proven anything yet. Bradley got another contract for a reason
[QUOTE][B]then we trade Rudy and give them a 1st round pick too just to get rid of him[/B]
we dont need a center that cannot catch the ball, looks like a clown under the basket with his arm flopping after the smallest contact with a 5 foot player
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/statpower"]statpower[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/13/22624137/with-a-dominant-second-half-the-utah-jazz-defeat-the-miami-heat-nba-summer-league-las-vegas#543641100"]Aug 14, 2021 | 8:51 AM[/URL]
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tank
[QUOTE][IMG]https://fonts.voxmedia.com/emoji/unicode/1f604.png[/IMG]Rudy could learn a thing or two watching how dok handles them little fellers.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/rubar4"]rubar4[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/13/22624137/with-a-dominant-second-half-the-utah-jazz-defeat-the-miami-heat-nba-summer-league-las-vegas#543642155"]Aug 14, 2021 | 9:57 AM[/URL]
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like Rudy with the French team. Jazz could learn something from that
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[QUOTE]On the flip side, Azubuike’s rebounding has left much to be desired. In Las Vegas, he’s only averaged 8 rebounds per game, which for his size, is pretty low. I’m not sure if it has to do with his conditioning, but for whatever reason, he doesn’t attack the glass as much as he should. The other (and probably more important note) is that Azubuike is only shooting ~50% from the free-throw line, something that could render him useless for extended minutes in the NBA.
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in 20 something minutes. He's fine
[QUOTE]The brutal reality for Forrest is that in the NBA, he simply won’t have the luxury of being a focal point on offense. In Summer League, Forrest can show off all of the great parts of his game because he has the ball in his hands every position. In the NBA (and especially in Quin Snyder’s system), Forrest will spend the majority of his time sitting in the corner, waiting for a swing pass. That directly contradicts who Forrest is as a player and his lack of shooting only makes that problem worse. He still doesn’t look very comfortable when he shoots triples and I’m not totally sure that will change in the span of a couple months. Either way, as a two-way contract player, Forrest is an absolute bargain. If he ever figures out his shot, he could be a rotation player.
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still take him over Rubio or Clarkson
[QUOTE]In Juwan Morgan’s case, this summer has confirmed that his offensive limitations are hampering his chances at a rotation spot in the league. I personally still believe that Morgan could be a good player. He’s got a ton going for him, but similar to Trent Forrest, if he doesn't prove his outside jumper soon then later, he may be in trouble.
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since when couldn't he shoot? :lol
[QUOTE]Jarrell Brantley has had a pretty up and down summer. In large part, this has been the story of his career. At one moment, Brantley looks like he could be a wildly impactful role player in the league with his size, driving ability, and passing. At other moments, he looks totally lost on defense, forces ill-advised shots, and struggles to make any impact. I think his biggest issue is that he's pretty good at a handful of things, but isn’t neccisarlily [I]great [/I]at anything.
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just needs to play with NBA rotation players
[QUOTE]Elijah Hughes’ summer has been filled with tough luck. Between going through the NBA’s concussion protocol and missing shots he usually makes, he's had a rough out. I think his offensive inconsistency can be chalked up to not playing very many meaningful minutes in the past year, but it’s something that has to be noted nonetheless. The silver linings for Hughes come on defense. It’s pretty clear that he’s worked hard on becoming a serviceable defender, and I think it’s paying off.
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sucks
[QUOTE] It pains me to say it, but it is time for the Jazz to move on to another young project.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/I'mJazzed"]I'mJazzed[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/8/13/22622301/what-can-we-take-away-from-the-utah-jazzs-summer-league-so-far-downbeat-trent-forrest-udoka-azubuike#543641223"]Aug 14, 2021 | 8:59 AM[/URL]
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no reason to keep guys around that COTY won't play
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/13/utah-jazz-time-teams/[/url]
[QUOTE]They didn’t exactly find one in Griffith. Unfortunately, a foot injury in 1985-86 sapped him of his trademark explosiveness, forcing a somewhat premature retirement from the NBA five years later, after spending all 10 of his career seasons on the Utah Jazz.
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the foot wasn't a problem. Layden was
[QUOTE]However, the two floor generals listed ahead of Maravich both submitted multiple similarly historic seasons for the Utah Jazz, and so they’re getting the nod over Maravich. Nonetheless, neither can surpass the Pistol’s all-time elite highlight reel.
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SG
[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz Second Team C: Mark Eaton[/h]
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Eaton sucked. Should be Kelly
[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz Second Team PF: Carlos Boozer[/h]
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wasn't better than his backup. Truck Robinson
[QUOTE]As previously mentioned, the positional battle for the Utah Jazz’s all-time big man was a little closer than some younger readers may have expected. As valuable as Gobert has been for the Jazz on the point preventing side of the ball, another towering rim protector gave him a run for his money in the late, 7’4 Mark Eaton. In fact, Eaton bested Gobert in the area they’re both most-known for: rim protection. Gobert’s career high in Defensive Box Plus/Minus (DBPM) clocks in at 6.0. Eaton has two seasons with a higher grade, posting 6.7 in 1984-85 and 6.5 in 1988-89. His career block % also trumps Gobert’s, at 6.9 to 6.2 (and it’s worth noting that Eaton’s figure includes the outliers attached to him having finished a career and aging out of his prime).
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it's not close. 3rd most important person in Jazz history by far
[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz First Team SG: Donovan Mitchell[/h]
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:facepalm
[QUOTE]A preternatural three-level scorer, Mitchell has the look of a franchise player for the foreseeable future. He’s already the best player on the current Utah Jazz. The only question left is how far he can climb up the franchise’s all-time leaderboards.
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better hope Gobert doesn't get hurt and Mitchell has to prove he's the best player. Not even top 2 currently
Former No. 7 overall pick in the NBA Draft 2015 [URL="https://basketnews.com/news-155181-mudiay-is-expected-to-continue-his-career-in-zalgiris.html"]Emmanuel Mudiay is expected to continue his career in Zalgiris Kaunas, per BasketNews sources. The 25-year-old guard won’t join Zalgiris only if he gets an NBA contract,[/URL] sources say BasketNews.
– via [URL="https://basketnews.com/news-155181-mudiay-is-expected-to-continue-his-career-in-zalgiris.html"]BasketNews[/URL]
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/14/22623424/utah-jazz-summer-league-about-development-winning-championship-jarrell-brantley-elijah-hughes[/url]
[QUOTE]“If we win we all look good, simple as that,” Elijah Hughes said.
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you won't
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/14/utah-jazz-forecasting-entire-roster-next/[/url]
[QUOTE]All of the [URL="https://thejnotes.com/"]Utah Jazz[/URL] starters will most likely be of the returning variety. Yes, it seems a reasonably safe bet, for now, that Mike Conley, Donovan Mitchell, Royce O’Neale, Bojan Bogdanovic, and Rudy Gobert will run it back as the regular starting five who anchored a league-best 52-20 record this past regular season.
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still no 4:cry:
[QUOTE]It also looks as if the top two scorers off the bench for the 2020-21 Jazz bunch, Jordan Clarkson and Joe Ingles, [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/13/utah-jazz-key-players-will-not-traded/"]should be back as well[/URL] after finishing No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, in the NBA Sixth Man of the Year race.
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unfortunately
you forgot Brantley
Jon Krawczynski: Summer league standout [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]MaCio Teague is signing an exhibit 10 deal with the Utah Jazz,[/URL] sources tell me and @Tony Jones . Teague has averaged over 15 points per game in 22.8 minutes in Vegas.
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski"]Twitter JonKrawczynski[/URL]
[URL="https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/utah-jazz-sign-macio-teague"]The Utah Jazz announced today that the team has signed guard MaCio Teague[/URL].
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[QUOTE]Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Juwan Morgan will miss today’s game against the Los Angeles Clippers with a strained hamstring[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
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end of his Jazz career I'd guess. Too bad. He could help
[QUOTE]Adrian Wojnarowski: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The Grizzlies, with an already packed roster, are open-minded on the futures of all three players in Memphis — and will likely consider trades with some of those arriving in this deal.[/URL] Memphis gets salary cap flexibility in the summer of 2022 with trade.
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would love Beverley
Hughes finally had a good game but it was mostly one short stretch where he was hot.
[url]https://kslsports.com/466028/jazz-loss-ends-championship-hopes-at-summer-league/[/url]
[QUOTE]While it’s true that Forrest has been a poor three-point shooter throughout his career leading up to summer league, one of the reasons his shooting was such a drawback was because he didn’t show off his excellent floater often enough as a rookie.
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probably because he couldn't show it. He was left wide open from 3. Why give him anything else until he proves he can shoot it?
[QUOTE]This type of pick and roll play has been the key to the Jazz offensive attack with Rudy Gobert over the last several seasons and is a real reason why Forrest could excel in bigger minutes in the Jazz rotation if needed.
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If they play with Gay, Paschall, Morgan or Brantley at the 5 he makes more sense than with Gobert or Whiteside. We've already lived the Ricky years and Ricky was a better shooter than Forrest. Forrest might be better at everything else
[QUOTE]Furthermore, while adding a three-point shot isn’t crucial, it would make him even more dangerous offensively as teams won’t be able to go under the screen on him. The Jazz offense took off when they moved on from Ricky Rubio, a non-shooter, to Mike Conley who shoots better than 40 percent from deep.
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it is crucial. We saw last year he could play effective minutes but we also saw him not guarded on the perimeter which makes it tougher for everyone else
[QUOTE]That’s not a knock on Amaechi who because of his terrific size was a better than average backup center in his career. But, if those players who won the genetic lottery can impact the game simply because of their measurements, a player with that size, and a love for the game can be even better.
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awful for the Jazz
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[QUOTE]These kind of NBA contracts are non-guaranteed and allow the team to waive the player, but incentivizes players to stay with a team’s G League affiliate by offering bonuses of up to $50,000 that are voided if the player decides to play overseas.
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I thought they got the money either way
[QUOTE]So basically, Teague is likely to be on the Jazz’s training camp roster and then the SLC Stars unless he decides to take an international contract. The Jazz also have their second two-way spot still open and Exhibit 10s can be converted to two-way deals.
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another NBA team could sign him as well. Played well enough someone might try to poach him
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/15/22623890/elijah-hughes-focus-is-on-defense-during-summer-league-with-the-utah-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]Hughes, who played his college ball at Syracuse, already has a deal with the [URL="https://www.deseret.com/utah-jazz"]Utah Jazz[/URL]. He’s guaranteed the full amount of his $1.5 million contract for the upcoming season. That contract does not guarantee him playing time, however. That’s something he has to earn.
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hopefully it doesn't guarantee him a roster spot. It was a wasted spot last year and will be again. There are a lot of guys out there that are better
[QUOTE]The Jazz coaching staff would love nothing more than to have Hughes develop into a wing defender who could be trusted with meaningful minutes. At just 23 years old and standing 6-foot-5, Hughes has an NBA frame and the strength to go with it.
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not elite length
[QUOTE]That’s why defense is so important to Hughes. While he is a pure scorer and wants to be recognized for that, he knows that versatile and consistent defense is how he can have staying power in the NBA, and staying in the league is what he wants.
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We've seen he loves to shoot the ball. Putting it in the hoop not so much
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/15/22626432/utah-jazz-fall-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-in-las-vegas-summer-league-nba[/url]
[QUOTE]For the Jazz it has been a successful summer league where they’ve seen some standouts among their young players. We’ve talked about it multiple times but Trent Forrest has been fantastic for the Jazz. When he’s been on the floor, good things have happened. Whether it’s gliding to the rim with a smooth floater or finding open teammates, Forrest has been very, very good. His averages in Las Vegas are 15.8 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 6.8 assists in 28 minutes per game. He has been as good a performer as the Jazz could hope for and they’ve got him on a two-way contract. The future looks very good for Trent Forrest and the Jazz likely want to keep him on the team as long as possible.
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If that was the case he would have been signed to a long term guaranteed contract.
[QUOTE]Udoka Azubuike looked solid again tonight. His combination of size and athleticism is apparent every time he steps on the floor. His biggest criticism? What he does at the free throw line. Tonight he went 6/11. He looks to have created somewhat of a stroke and it looks better than what he’s done in the past. If he can continue to work on it, Dok has the talent to be a rotation big in the NBA for a long time. It looks like he may already have done that. Dok has had an impressive summer league and should pressure Whiteside for minutes this upcoming season. He finishes everything around the rim and shows the innate ability to protect the rim to help on both ends. For 10-15 minutes a night he could be a real help for the Jazz come the regular season.
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let's not get ahead of ourselves. Let's see what he does in pre season and with the Stars before getting too excited. If he makes Whiteside expendable by the trade deadline they should be happy
[QUOTE]We’ve now had two really good games in a row for Elijah Hughes. At the end of this game when things looked out of hand, Hughes was hitting shots to keep the Jazz in it. Hughes’ jumpshot looks great and he is making it at a nice level. At Las Vegas Summer League he’s now shooting 46% from three. He’s also showing the signs of defense that he was asked to do. Hughes is probably not ever going to be a lock down defender but you can see the signs of improvement with him taking charges and getting deflections and steals. Hughes absolutely should have gotten minutes last year instead of Matt Thomas who isn’t on the team any more. At worst Hughes is a player that can come in and shoot the ball with size.
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no he shouldn't have played over anyone. Thomas had his moments. He can shoot. Hughes has yet to prove that
[QUOTE]The last player that deserves mention is Jarrell Brantley. Brantley had a very Brantley game. He showed some flashes with his length blocking a shot and bothering shooters. He handled the ball and hit some threes. He also had 4 turnovers and missed some easy ones at the rim. For the game he shot 4/14. Brantley is a player I really root for. The physical profile is there, along with an interesting skill set. But I don’t know how long it will take for those things to come together and what that will even look like if it does come together. Brantly plays so wild at times and you just hope he can put it all together at some point. Sometimes I wonder if I love the idea of Jarrell Brantley more than what I’m actually seeing.
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fills the box score and makes plays at both ends. Put him out there with 4 NBA rotation players and he'll be fine as we've seen in limited chances
[QUOTE]With how he’s played I definitely will be surprised if he’s not cut by opening day.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/TheNextGM"]TheNextGM[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/15/22626432/utah-jazz-fall-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-in-las-vegas-summer-league-nba#543679274"]Aug 15, 2021 | 6:37 PM[/URL]
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I'd be surprised because the coach obviously doesn't think highly of him
[QUOTE]If we knew they were trying to dump Beverley, we could have used Bogey + the Favors trade exception to get him. But, of course, our owner cares about luxury taxes too. They’re not making decisions solely to make the team better.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/15/22626432/utah-jazz-fall-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-in-las-vegas-summer-league-nba#543684599"]Aug 16, 2021 | 5:40 AM[/URL]
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I'd like to think getting rid of Favors was about making the team better. Favors sucked and needed to go regardless of tax implications. Clarkson and Hughes should be next
[QUOTE]Yeah, there was nothing good about that Matt Friggin’ Thomas trade. This isn’t even meant to bash on Thomas. It’s more what that trade represented. When that was the only move the Jazz made at the deadline, they were essentially making a public announcement that "We think we’re a good enough team. We’re not going to try to get better. We’re going to roll with what we’ve got".
Big mistake.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/15/22626432/utah-jazz-fall-to-the-los-angeles-clippers-in-las-vegas-summer-league-nba#543684613"]Aug 16, 2021 | 5:43 AM[/URL]
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The Wizard saw him as someone that could help them going forward. Hughes was the wasted roster spot and really all the guys COTY refused to play I guess
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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/15/utah-jazz-paschall-earn-minutes-year/[/url]
[QUOTE]Paschall is a rare get for a team in Utah’s position: a quality young player with upside. However, the question remains: how will Paschall get regular minutes in Quin Snyder’s rotation throughout the 2021-22 season? Especially considering the positional overlap he shares with Gay?
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being Mitchell's buddy I'm afraid will be enough
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/15/ranking-utah-jazz-big-3-nbas-best-trios/[/url]
[QUOTE]Meanwhile, the guard comparisons are a little closer. Paul grades out as better than Conley Jr., although the separation is less than casual observes may expect (21.4 PER vs 19.2). Meanwhile, the Utah Jazz’s star young off-guard graded out as superior to Phoenix’s, with Mitchell holding a PER advantage over Booker of 21.3 to 19.2
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Booker is better than Mitchell. Saw him setting screens and at least attempting to defend
[QUOTE][h=2]Los Angeles Lakers Big 3: Anthony Davis, LeBron James, Russell Westbrook[/h]
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shitshow
[QUOTE]Per CleaningtheGlass, the Utah Jazz, interestingly, held a negative Efficiency Differential (-5.9) with Donovan Mitchell on the floor. Meanwhile, both Rudy Gobert (14.6) and Mike Conley Jr. (11.9) posted substantially positive marks, each over the 95th percentile.
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best player in Jazz history! :roll:
[QUOTE]Interpret the numbers how you like, but just don’t conclude that Mitchell is a negative presence for this Utah Jazz team. He is their offensive engine, and likely their most important player. Considering that these 3 men frequently shared the floor, a safer interpretation concludes that Mitchell is prone to struggling without his elite rim protector and floor-spacing secondary playmaker.
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Without Gobert they would suck as has been proven in the past. Without Conley and Mitchell they still won. Ball moves better without Mitchell and the D is better. Don't need the numbers to show you that. Watch the games
[QUOTE]Yet, nobody in good conscience could rank them ahead of this Brooklyn Nets trio. Simply put, they have too much talent. Assuming better injury luck for them, they project as the best Big 3 in the NBA heading into the 2021-22 NBA season.
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Bucks. Better at both ends
[url]https://sircharlesincharge.com/2021/08/15/nba-power-rankings-heat-bulls-steal-offseason/16/[/url]
1st to 6th!
Cleveland has also explored the trade market. [URL="https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/08/evan-mobley-looks-as-advertised-and-lamar-stevens-believes-he-belongs-cleveland-cavaliers-summer-league-observations.html"]Kyle Anderson, Terrence Ross, Joe Ingles, Bojan Bogdanovic, Cam Reddish, T.J. Warren, Thaddeus Young, Tobias Harris, Jeremy Lamb and Harrison Barnes are all said to be available.[/URL] Reddish is a player the Cavs liked in the 2019 draft. They’ve been in contact with Atlanta about him. But wings don’t come cheap.
– via [URL="https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/08/evan-mobley-looks-as-advertised-and-lamar-stevens-believes-he-belongs-cleveland-cavaliers-summer-league-observations.html"]Chris Fedor @ Cleveland Plain Dealer[/URL]
In initial conversations, [URL="https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/08/evan-mobley-looks-as-advertised-and-lamar-stevens-believes-he-belongs-cleveland-cavaliers-summer-league-observations.html"]sources say most teams are asking for Cleveland’s 2022 first-round pick[/URL] (with protections, of course), but that would be incredibly risky for a team with 60 total wins the last three years and projects to, in a best-case scenario, compete for a Play-In spot in 2021-22. Without the future first-rounder, which the Cavs seem unwilling to put on the table for any of the “available” wings, interest turns to either Larry Nance Jr. — one of the few adults and winning players on the roster — or the pair of extra 2022 second-round picks (Houston and San Antonio). Does combining one or both with Cedi Osman get the Cavs anywhere?
– via [URL="https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/08/evan-mobley-looks-as-advertised-and-lamar-stevens-believes-he-belongs-cleveland-cavaliers-summer-league-observations.html"]Chris Fedor @ Cleveland Plain Dealer[/URL]
[url]https://kslsports.com/466109/report-jazz-to-host-luka-mavericks-christmas-night/[/url]
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/16/22627169/utah-jazz-rayjon-tucker-and-emmanuel-mudiay-among-familiar-faces-on-summer-league-rosters[/url]
[QUOTE]Rayjon Tucker, the 2019 G League standout who earned a deal with the Jazz in 2020 before being traded to the Cavaliers in the offseason last year is now with the Sixers and is still making the same athletic, high-flying plays that endeared him to Jazz fans.
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high energy defense is what endeared him to me. Rather have him than Hughes
[QUOTE]Former SLC Stars players are also featured across multiple Summer League rosters, including Trevon Bluiett and Tre Scott with the Cleveland Cavaliers, Malcolm Miller with the Minnesota Timberwolves, Romaro Gill with the Los Angeles Lakers, and Marcus Graves with the Sacramento Kings.
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Bluiett is good
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/16/22627429/is-rudy-gobert-on-pace-to-be-the-greatest-french-ball-player-of-all-time-utah-jazz[/url]
Gobert. Parker has the rings but not as the man
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/17/utah-jazz-try-trade-ben-simmons/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=1]Utah Jazz: Should they try to trade for Ben Simmons?[/h]
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makes no sense unless you are trading Gobert
[QUOTE]Simmons would give Utah two young stars in Donovan Mitchell and Simmons, who would together set up Utah with both an offensive and defensive anchor for years to come. Ultimately, Simmons provides a little bit more on the offensive side than Gobert, and he has an equally great defensive impact.
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Does he give them more offensively though? Gobert is elite at what he does at both ends
Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Dok, Trent Forrest and Juwan Morgan are all out against Philly this afternoon for the Jazz[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]In addition to dok and Forrest being out, Kyle Fogg and Nate Sestina are not with the Jazz for their summer league finale this afternoon against Philly[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/Tjonesonthenba"]Twitter Tjonesonthenba[/URL]
Justin Grasso: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The #Sixers announced they have waived Rayjon Tucker[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/JGrasso_"]Twitter JGrasso_[/URL]
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50225043/summer-league-is-over-heres-what-we-learned-about-the-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz have Forrest on a two-way deal, so he'll likely be lighting it up the G League this season. He could get some spot minutes, though, if the Jazz have injuries; however, his path to playing time seems pretty blocked.
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blocked by Clarkson and COTY :cry:
[QUOTE]Forrest has been phenomenal with the ball in his hands, and for him to be effective he kind of needs to be running the show. Sure, his form on his 3-point shot is better, but he's still probably not going to be a threat off the ball. The problem with that: Utah has a lot of ball handlers. But the Jazz should be comfortable that if guys like Joe Ingles, Jordan Clarkson or even Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley need a break, they can call upon Forrest.
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He was good last year without the ball. Just can't shoot
[QUOTE]For a team that desperately needed a true third point guard last season, his development is good news.
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they had him. Could do a lot worse for 3rd pg
[QUOTE][h=2]Udoka Azubuike was the wrong pick, but he might not be a bad player[/h]
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if he was the best center available than he was the right pick
[QUOTE]A lot of the ill feelings toward the selection of Udoka Azubuike last November had nothing to do with him and more to do with the position he played. A case could have been made for his selection before free agency, but once Derrick Favors chose to come back and Rudy Gobert signed a big extension — two moves the Jazz were planning on — it seemed like a wasted pick, especially when First Team All-Rookie wing Desmond Bane (and others) was still on the board.
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the draft was before free agency and both their centers were free agents and their 6 rookies were everything but a big center. Needed to take a center. Bane wouldn't have played either. PG was the next biggest need. Hughes was the wrong pick but got Forrest anyway
[QUOTE]The effort was there but the production really wasn't. He was out of control for much of the time, which led to several turnovers, and he didn't shoot well enough. His aggressive style of defense also doesn't really fit with what the Jazz want to do, especially when he gambles wrong. He signed Utah's qualifying offer, but it's only guaranteed for $84,000. That's not a lot to eat if the Jazz want another roster spot.
[/QUOTE]didn't shoot well but filled up the box score and made plays at both ends. Put him in there with rotation players and he'll do fine as he has in the few opportunities he's had
[QUOTE]Elijah Hughes was better than expected defensively and did well to try to change the perception that Syracuse wings can't guard. But he was also somewhat disappointing in the scoring department. He struggled to gain separation at times, and aside from shooting the 3-point ball well, he didn't have much of a positive impact on the offense. He's got a guaranteed deal this season.
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he sucks. Needs to go!
[QUOTE]Teague has a really nice drive game. He got defenders off balance and showed some crafty finishes. He shot 37% from deep at Baylor, so we knew he could shoot. He's already 24 years old but seems to have the makings of a nice role player.
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he's got some talent. Better than Hughes. Not saying much
[QUOTE]Juwan Morgan was injured midway through Summer League, but it didn't look like he was going to demand time on the floor anyway. He didn't shoot well enough to be a stretch big threat, especially with his rebounding that lacked, as well.
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does the little things and can shoot. Someone will be lucky to have him
[QUOTE]Summer League is a lot more fun with lottery picks — or any new picks.
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I guess. Just nice to have summer league at all
[url]https://kslsports.com/466207/what-we-did-and-didnt-learn-from-jazz-summer-league/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=2]Did Learn: Trent Forrest Can Play[/h]
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already knew
[QUOTE]In seven appearances with the Jazz, the guard knocked down 7-18 deep balls for a very healthy 38 percent on 2.5 attempts per game over the summer.
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if he can shoot like that it would be hard to keep him off the floor. His shot doesn't look good still but it's encouraging
[QUOTE]If Azubuike proves he can get to the rim in the NBA, opposing defenses will simply send him to the free-throw line and live with what is basically a turnover for the Jazz offense. He simply must get his completion rate above 50 percent if he wants to be an NBA player.
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won't matter if he can do everything else
[QUOTE]However, there were several long stretches where Hughes simply didn’t impact the game the way a four-year college player with a year of NBA basketball under his belt should.
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sucks
[QUOTE]Butler was a home run pick on draft night in the second round, but what he actually brings to the team is a mystery.
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what he brings to the Stars should be the question[CENTER]
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[url]https://kslsports.com/466179/jazz-wrap-summer-league-with-loss-to-76ers/[/url]
[QUOTE]It’s important not to read too much into how the Jazz decided to rest players in the final game in Las Vegas as the team had to have at least eight players available to begin the game, but it’s no coincidence that the Jazz three best summer league players got the day off while Elijah Hughes and MaCio Teague continued to suit up.
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Don't think Hughes was going to play until their was an injury
[QUOTE]As a two-way player, Forrest will likely see significant time in the G League, but with no limit on how much time he can spend with the main roster this season, the guard may once against be counted on for emergency minutes.
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believe their is a limit
[QUOTE]With only three centers on the roster, the Jazz may also opt to keep Azubuike with the main roster for longer stretches, but if he is needed to step into the team’s everyday rotation at some point throughout the year, a little more seasoning with the Salt Lake City Stars would help.
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needs to be with the Stars until he can play Whiteside off the floor
[QUOTE]Hughes meanwhile looks like he needs more time with the Stars as he has to continue to find a rhythm to his offensive game playing off the ball, and develop further as a defensive player.
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needs to be cut
[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/17/22628823/utah-jazz-assistant-coach-bryan-bailey-head-coach-of-the-summer-league-team[/url]
[QUOTE]Bailey has experimented with different lineups and actions over the last couple weeks during the Salt Lake City Summer League and the NBA’s showcase in Las Vegas. He’s tried out new things like putting Jarrell Brantley or Nate Sestina at the five and playing two more traditional centers together. The point being that he’s not afraid to just see how things work on the court.
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not COTY!!!
[URL="https://sportando.basketball/en/erdem-can-reportedly-to-sign-as-assistant-coach-with-utah-jazz/"]Erdem Can leaves Fenerbahce to sign as assistant coach with Utah Jazz as reported by Skorer[/URL]. Can worked with Utah Jazz in Summer League for the past six years.
– via [URL="https://sportando.basketball/en/erdem-can-reportedly-to-sign-as-assistant-coach-with-utah-jazz/"]Sportando[/URL]
Mike McGraw: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]#Bulls officially announced signings of Tony Bradley, Javonte Green, Devon Dotson[/URL]. –That makes 12 under contract + one two-way (Dotson). Only guys left from the day AK took the job are Zach LaVine and Coby White. (Lauri still in limbo, obv)
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/McGrawDHSports"]Twitter McGrawDHSports[/URL]
[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/8/19/22633014/donovan-mitchell-nba-utah-jazz-mvp[/URL]
[QUOTE][B]Can Donovan Mitchell make a run at MVP this season?[/B]
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he wasn't even in their top two players last year and now he's MVP? :facepalm
[QUOTE]As crazy as it seems, Donovan Mitchell is already entering the fifth year of his professional basketball career. It seemed like just yesterday we watched him get his first start in place of a gassy Rodney Hood, and would go on to dazzle jazz fans and the rest of the NBA as a rookie. Even considering how magical that first season was, Donovan Mitchell continues to exceed expectations and get better each season. Since then, Donovan has increased his points per game in every season. He’s become a great leader both on and off the court. He’s embedded himself in [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/"]Utah Jazz[/URL] history, casually breaking records held by franchise legends. He’s led the Jazz to the playoffs every single season he’s been here, advancing to the second round two of of the four years. He’s been named an All-star in back-to-back seasons, continues to collect endorsement and brand deals every year.
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he led them? All I can say is they better hope Gobert doesn't get hurt
[QUOTE]With the Jazz getting a boost and possibly being even better than last season, we need to look at the climbing possibility of a Donovan Mitchell MVP run. Crazy enough as it is, Donovan Mitchell did not finish in the top 10 of MVP voting last season. Considering his 26.4 points per game, 5 assists, and 4 rebounds on the best team in the NBA, it seems like that was an absolute travesty. His ankle injury that kept him out of the final month of the season definitely had something to do with that, but still. National analysts heavily underestimated what Donovan Mitchell meant to this team last season. Rudy Gobert finished 7th in MVP, which was deserved on Rudy’s part. Not including Donovan for the weight that he pulled all season was pretty crazy.
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Conley deserved to be in the mix not Mitchell
[QUOTE]With last season behind us, looking towards the future, Can Mitchell improve enough in the eyes of voters to make a run at the MVP this coming season? Early MVP odds have Don tied for 18th at 40/1.
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Rudy from 7th to nowhere! :roll:
[QUOTE]This video that Donovan’s trainer Chris Brickley posted of Spida’s handles and shots is pretty insane. It gets me excited every year when I see these in the offseason, seeing new tricks the guys are doing to improve their handles and game. Donovan Mitchell is insanely gifted, and continues to put in the work each offseason to get better. If he get’s any better this coming season, and the Jazz stay near the top of the NBA in terms of record, he will have a real shot at snagging an MVP, which is just an insane accomplishment.
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where's videos of him playing D or giving up the ball?
[QUOTE][B]Yeah, according to Kira, Donovan isn't even MVP of the team![/B]
No Kira, this isn’t a request for you to go on a stat fest for Rudy.
Don’t need a crazy thread like the one saying Mike C is a great value.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/AdMan59"]AdMan59[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/8/19/22633014/donovan-mitchell-nba-utah-jazz-mvp#543804317"]Aug 19, 2021 | 4:20 PM[/URL]
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anyone paying attention knows they suck without Gobert and Conley was their 2nd best player. When Mitchell was out the D was better and the ball moved better and they won. Doesn't sound like an MVP to me
[QUOTE] there isn’t a player in this league, and probably hasn’t been since Ben Wallace retired, who could even get close to replacing Rudy in our defense. With the way our roster is constructed, we’d be utterly hopeless on defense without Gobert in the center and the opposing offense being funneled to him. THAT’S why Donovan isn’t the MVP of our team. In terms of pure value, Rudy is existentially vital to our scheme—and that, by logical default, makes him our most valuable player.
That doesn’t mean Donovan isn’t a league MVP-caliber player. He’s getting close to that level, certainly. But the MVP award really does an incredibly poor job of actually rewarding the players with the most existential value to their teams.
As a side note, I’ve come down hard on Kira in the past for expressing views very similar to these, and I was wrong. Kira has a convoluted and sometimes rather antagonistic way of expressing his ideas which makes it hard to sometimes understand what he’s trying to get across, but I’ve come to realize he really does have some unique insights into what about a given player’s game matters. We’d all do well to listen a little more carefully and less reactionarily.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/GregOstertagged"]GregOstertagged[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/8/19/22633014/donovan-mitchell-nba-utah-jazz-mvp#543805424"]Aug 19, 2021 | 5:05 PM[/URL]
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but they lost nothing when Favors was in the game! :roll:
[QUOTE]We run plays for Rudy every time down the court.
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Karl%20Stalone%2032"]Karl Stalone 32[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/8/19/22633014/donovan-mitchell-nba-utah-jazz-mvp#543812434"]Aug 20, 2021 | 2:02 AM[/URL]
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and he might actually get the ball if Clarkson or Mitchell don't touch it!
[QUOTE][B]Increasing his total rebounds might help him get into the MVP conversation, but I'd rather see him get even a small increase in ORB.[/B]
The Jazz was the best rebounding team in the league last season, and #4 in ORB, but only Rudy (3.4) and Favors (2.0) had more than 2.0 ORB/game.
Royce was next highest with 1.2 ORB, which was 3x higher than he had ever had before. You could really see his effort on the offensive boards this season.
Mitchell had 0.9, which is pretty good for a guard. I’d love to see him crashing the boards on offense and bumping that up to maybe 1.5. That would be a good sign that his overall intensity is up (and that would probably help his PPG too).
Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/Kira%20Argonova"]Kira Argonova[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/8/19/22633014/donovan-mitchell-nba-utah-jazz-mvp#543812915"]Aug 20, 2021 | 5:32 AM[/URL]
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Royce got offensive boards because the guys in the corner were going for offensive boards. Not usually where Mitchell is at. He's getting back on D not that he actually plays any
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/19/utah-jazz-3-crazy-lineups-stun-world/[/url]
[QUOTE]That said, a dozen or so guys appear worthy of playing time. As a result, eighth-year Utah Jazz head coach [URL="https://kslsports.com/466277/report-jazz-add-erdem-can-as-assistant-coach/"]Quin Snyder[/URL] should enjoy the freedom to get inventive in concocting crazy lineup combinations to keep his counterparts guessing from the opposite bench.
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he's had that freedom and chose to play the same guys no matter what
[QUOTE][h=2]Crazy Utah Jazz lineup: Giants[/h]PG: Donovan Mitchell
SG: Joe Ingles
SF: Rudy Gay
PF: Hassan Whiteside
C: Rudy Gobert
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stupid
[QUOTE][h=2]Crazy Utah Jazz lineup: Snipers[/h]PG: Mike Conley
SG: Donovan Mitchell
SF: Jordan Clarkson
PF: Bojan Bogdanovic
C: Rudy Gay
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only one ball. Get run off the floor defensively
[QUOTE][h=2]Crazy Utah Jazz lineup: Old-timers[/h]PG: Mike Conley
SG: Joe Ingles
SF: Bojan Bogdanovic
PF: Rudy Gay
C: Hassan Whiteside
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might actually see that one and they might be able to compete though the team hasn't had much luck wihtout Rudy on the floor
[QUOTE]Sure, one could argue that every member of this proposed Jazz quintet is officially past their prime. After all, each of these NBA “senior citizens” is at least 32 years old. And the average age will be 33 plus some change once the season gets underway.
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Ingles and Conley coming off career years
[url]https://sircharlesincharge.com/2021/08/15/nba-power-rankings-heat-bulls-steal-offseason/16/[/url]
from 1st to 6th!
[URL="https://www.aa.com.tr/en/sports/fenerbahce-assistant-coach-erdem-can-moves-to-nba/2341612"]Fenerbahce Men’s Basketball Team’s assistant coach Erdem Can has moved to NBA,[/URL] the club announced on Friday. Can has been with Fenerbahce since 2012 and helped the team win the Euroleague title in 2017. Fenerbahce thanked the 40-year-old coach and wished him success in his future endeavors. Can is expected to join the Utah Jazz.
– via [URL="https://www.aa.com.tr/en/sports/fenerbahce-assistant-coach-erdem-can-moves-to-nba/2341612"]AA.com.tr[/URL]
After being linked to Nigel Hayes and him nearing a deal with FC Barcelona, [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/1239701/panathinaikos-nearing-a-deal-with-jeremy-evans/"]Panathinaikos OPAP turned its focus to Jeremy Evans and is nearing a deal with the American forward/center[/URL]. Evans, 33, has made his way to 59 games of the Turkish Airlines EuroLeague. He most recently played for AX Armani Exchange Olimpia Milano posting 2.8 points and 3.1 rebounds per contest.
– via [URL="https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/1239701/panathinaikos-nearing-a-deal-with-jeremy-evans/"]EuroHoops.net[/URL]
[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50226844/a-breakdown-of-the-utah-jazzs-2021-22-schedule[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz have three road trips of five games or longer, including a six-game, nine-day trip in March that will take them from New York to Los Angeles. That one is pretty brutal with games against the New York Knicks, Brooklyn Nets, Boston Celtics, Charlotte Hornets, Dallas Mavericks and LA Clippers — all teams that will be expecting to make the playoffs.
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tough one. Need to be better on the road this year
[QUOTE]Utah's post New Year's trip going from New Orleans, Denver, Toronto, Indiana and Detroit will also put a lot of miles on the team.
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could be tough as well. Detroit looks like the only easy one and we know how those ones can go
[QUOTE]But the Jazz do get some help when it comes to travel. They'll travel to Atlanta, Miami and Orlando for one road trip; that's a long flight out and back, but pretty short skip to get to games. Utah also gets some favorable back to backs on the road with Brooklyn and New York, and Chicago and Milwaukee.
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short skips and favorable? :facepalm
[QUOTE]Starting March 14 against Milwaukee, the Jazz will play 14 of its final 15 games against teams that have playoff aspirations. That stretch includes games against the Nets, Lakers, Clippers, Bucks, Warriors and Suns, among others.
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looks different than other years where they end with an easy schedule
[QUOTE]According to the analytics site Positive Residual, the Jazz actually have the easiest schedule when it comes to travel and rest adjustment standards; two sets of six consecutive home games help with that. The first comes Dec. 15-25 against the Clippers, Spurs, Wizards, Hornets, Timberwolves, and ends with the Christmas matchup against the Mavericks.
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December is usually tough on the road
[QUOTE]The latter takes place Feb. 2-14, and features the Nuggets, Nets, Knicks, Warriors, Magic and Rockets.
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easy?
[url]https://kslsports.com/466332/jazz-have-easiest-schedule-26-national-tv-games/[/url]
[QUOTE]According to the website [URL="https://positiveresidual.com/shiny/nba/"]positive residuals[/URL], the Jazz will have the easiest schedule this season. The site balances how a team traditionally performs at home, on the road, and how much rest they have before each game.
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that's a change. See if it actually plays out that way and if they can take advantage
[QUOTE]An additional advantage for the Jazz is only having to play the Los Angeles Lakers and Clippers three times each, and, as one of the top teams in the NBA, have an easier schedule by not having to play themselves.
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Not worried about either team really. Clipps could be in the lottery without Kawai. Aging Lebron, Injured AD and Westbrook looks like a shitshow to me