2021-22 regular season Utah Jazz news, notes and game coverage

[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/rudy-gay-is-here-for-the-moments/[/url]

[QUOTE]The Jazz have two volume scoring guards in Donovan Mitchell and Jordan Clarkson, who take a combined 41% of Jazz’s shots — 35 combined attempts per game of Utah’s 85 nightly shots.[/QUOTE]

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[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/the-downbeat-latest-jazz-news/2021/11/19/22791337/rudy-gay-is-a-game-changer-for-the-utah-jazz-quin-snyder-toronto-raptors-nba-regular-season[/url]

[QUOTE]For one, his size is going to be a huge asset for the Jazz moving forward. At around 6-8, 250lb, Gay fills in the role of the over-sized, versatile wing that the Jazz have been looking for these past few years. To make things even better, Gay boasts a 7-3 wingspan, making his ability to disrupt passing lanes and wreak havoc on defense even easier. The effects of that were clear last night, as when Gay was on the court, the [URL="https://www.raptorshq.com"]Toronto Raptors[/URL] were held to an offensive rating of 86.8. While this comes from a minuscule sample size, both the eye test and the numbers from last night showed that Gay can have a significant impact on defense for Utah. As he gets more comfortable with the system, I expect Quin Snyder take advantage of Gay’s versatility with some new defensive schemes.

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don't expect anything new from COTY :roll:

[QUOTE]If, for the rest of this season, Gay can prove he’s a knock down shooter, Utah’s bench will be dangerous. The roster now has a one of the best bench trios in the league with him, Jordan Clarkson, and Joe ingles. Gay’s versatility will open up a whole new set of lineups and schemes the Jazz have yet to have the luxury of playing with. When the playoff’s roll in, Gay’s ability to defend in space, stretch the floor, and play some small ball minutes should help counteract some of the matchup issues Utah’s faced in the past few years.

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Clarkson sucks and they aren't playing small ball

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/19/utah-jazz-target-john-wall/[/url]

[QUOTE]Surely, the former #1 overall pick would prefer to get on a basketball court, and do it with a contender. The Utah Jazz could offer him exactly that opportunity in the event of a buyout. Here is the case for, and against, the Jazz pursuing John Wall this season.

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he's not getting bought out and he isn't a starting 4 :facepalm

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/19/utah-jazz-donovan-mitchell-improved/[/url]

[QUOTE]If the 25-year-old continues his upward swing on the defensive end, then three-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year Rudy Gobert may eventually see some new competition for that award in the form of a fellow Utah Jazz centerpiece.

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[QUOTE] Jim Owczarski: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Rodney Hood is out tonight for the #Bucks with a right hamstring strain. He was not on the injury report previously[/URL].

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/JimOwczarski"]Twitter JimOwczarski[/URL]


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he's a permanent fixture on the injury report

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50287778/yoga-and-an-extra-mile-how-the-jazz-are-trying-to-stay-healthy-this-season[/url]

[QUOTE]For a team that believes its season ended early last summer due to injuries to Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley, and whose major offseason acquisition had undergone offseason surgery, that felt significant. There's a lot of luck when it comes to injuries (Jazz fans, feel free to start knocking on wood now), but it's not all luck.

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ended early because Mitchell wouldn't listen to doctors, play D or pass and COTY refusing to make any adjustments

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/20/utah-jazz-secret-weapon-rudy-gay/[/url]

[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/09/07/ranking-utah-jazz-bench-among-best/"]may have already had the best bench in the NBA.[/URL] With the addition of Rudy Gay, they’ve made it even better.

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Clarkson sucks :facepalm

[url]https://kslsports.com/473099/hot-shooting-jazz-cruise-past-kings/[/url]

[QUOTE]Without the three-point shooting that carried them throughout most of last season, the Jazz were having to out-defend, outrebound, and outhustle their opponents just to stay competitive.

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quit saying it carried them. They had a top D and offense. 3 all stars one that doesn't shoot 3's. The top two 6 men one who sucks at 3's and sucks period actually

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/11/20/22792348/utah-jazz-transition-game-helps-jazz-beat-sacramento-kings-for-3rd-time-this-season-mike-conley[/url]

[QUOTE]I’m not sure what inspires Bojan Bogdanovic or what motivates him, but whatever it is that gets him playing good defense, he should seek it out every single day, because when Bogdanovic is playing good defense and boxing out and just generally aware, it does wonders for the Jazz.

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make him a 6th man. Maybe he could play more D if his minutes were reduced? Either way he wouldn't be counted on as much

[QUOTE] [URL="https://theathletic.com/news/warriors-klay-thompson-cleared-to-practice-fully-could-return-within-week-of-christmas-sources/iEKeYCOtl4px/"]Free agent and recent pro Dante Exum was among the players in this past week’s Thompson scrimmages, and sources said Thompson had strong showings in the five-on-five play. It was his first time running five-on-fives, albeit with players who are not currently playing on a pro team. Mychel Thompson, Klay Thompson’s older brother, has also been a featured presence as part of the return-to-play plan[/URL]. It’s been 892 days since Klay Thompson has appeared in a game. His right Achilles tear came during the final stage of his left ACL rehab, so the Warriors — given the extended layoff and recent experience — have been extremely careful easing him back. Steve Kerr has mentioned multiple times his belief that Kevin Durant’s brilliant return from an Achilles injury is partially due to the 18-month gap between tear and return.

– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/news/warriors-klay-thompson-cleared-to-practice-fully-could-return-within-week-of-christmas-sources/iEKeYCOtl4px/"]Shams Charania and Anthony Slater @ The Athletic[/URL]

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Dante sucks!

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/22/utah-jazz-grizzlies-odds-lineup-nov-22/[/url]

[QUOTE]All told, the [URL="http://www.thejnotes.com"]Utah Jazz (11-5)[/URL] sit third in the Western Conference, with the [URL="https://bealestreetbears.com/"]Memphis Grizzlies (8-8)[/URL] just outside the playoff picture at ninth.

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9th is play in

[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/sc7-112221-what-jazz-need-from-gay-whiteside/[/url]

[QUOTE][B]Rim finishing[/B]. If there’s anything that the Jazz learned with the Ed Davis and Tony Bradley experiments — and even to a degree on the nights when Derrick Favors looked less springy — it’s that their prolific offense functions much better when all those shooters are orbiting around a rolling big who actually demands the opposing defense’s attention.

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Bradley is a good offensive player

[QUOTE]Gay and Whiteside represent Utah’s best opportunities to improve upon last year’s rotation, and they don’t even need to play out of their minds to do that. So far, both guys are giving the Jazz the specific things that help the club unlock some positive things on both ends.

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New coach and new 6th man

[QUOTE]Gay’s return gives Utah more ways to construct winning lineups. Any time they have had any five of their main 10 guys on the court, they have outscored opponents by 13.6 points per 100 possessions. The flipside of that is that as soon as even one member of their deep bench brigade steps into the lineup, those lineups drop to a combined -3.6 outside of garbage time. At some point, the hope is that someone from Utah’s 11th through 16th roster spots will make Snyder feel a bit more comfortable about playing them in meaningful situations.

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Yeah right

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/22/utah-jazz-trade-paschall/[/url]

[QUOTE]Granted, Paschall can be viewed as an insurance policy against a potential Gay injury, but is it worth the price of that insurance when this roster wants for a fourth rotation guard? Why double down on a position of strength with a roster that is lacking in another area?

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Trade Clarkson for a starting 4 or nobody. Royce to the wing

Paschall an energy guy at the end of the bench. You aren't getting Milton or Campuzzo for him :facepalm

[url]https://kslsports.com/473250/late-mistakes-bad-whistle-cost-jazz-against-grizzlies/[/url]

[QUOTE]“Even if we miss a shot, we’ve got be able to close defensively,” Mitchell said. “We’ve got to be able to get hits, when they continue to get second looks, when we play good defense then we give them another look it’s hard to guard three times in one possession.”

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just love when he talks about playing D :facepalm

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/11/22/22795923/instant-analysis-jaren-jackson-jr-3-pointer-seals-memphis-grizzlies-win-over-utah-jazz[/url]

[QUOTE]There’s a pretty big difference between when Mitchell falls into playing ‘my turn, your turn’ basketball and when he decides to just take over. The first is a very stagnant and slowed down, usually ineffective way of playing that has a bad trickle down effect on the rest of the team. The latter is when he just makes quick reads and big-time shots and you can tell that he’s feeling it. Honestly, even when he’s not making the shots but they are quick, wide open and well-timed shots, it’s the right play to make. It’s just about the way that he plays. It’s aggressive without being rushed. He sometimes waffles between the two, and that’s where some of his inconsistencies come from, but he had a couple of take over stretches that were key against the Grizzlies.

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should be Conley's turn when he's in the game and never Clarkson's

[QUOTE]The final look from Mitchell was a bad one. The Jazz didn’t do themselves any favors in that final possession.

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he liked it! :roll:

[QUOTE]Desmond Bane is so very good at basketball and he gave the Jazz and all Jazz fans fits on Monday night. He went off for 28 points in myriad ways and was the best player on the floor for much of the game. But it all comes to the great chagrin of Jazz fans who will always remember that the Jazz could have had him in the 2020 NBA draft. That seems like it’s going to be one that hurts for a while.

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why? He wouldn't be playing for the Jazz. They needed a center. Rather Udoka was the right one remains to be seen

[URL]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/11/22/22798133/utah-jazz-out-hustled-by-memphis-grizzlies-in-119-118-loss[/URL]

[QUOTE]Ja Morant’s star is ascending. He outplayed Donovan, despite missing 21 field goal attempts. Jaren Jackson Jr. Is tenacious, and while his wildness likely costs his team opportunities on some nights, tonight, it kept it earned his team a win.

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Morant has shown he can carry a team since he was a rookie.

[QUOTE]If you were a mad scientist, who could develop the perfect role-playing wing in a laboratory, you might create Desmond Bane. He’s 6’6” and 215 lbs. He has a sweet shooting stroke, good basketball instincts, and defends like a bull shark. He might be the reason Dennis Lindsay no longer has a job.

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He has a job. Advisor. COTY is the reason he doesn't have a job

[QUOTE]I wish the Jazz had traded Mitchell for Ja two seasons ago when people still thought Mitchell was better.

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yep. Imagine him and Gobert

[QUOTE]It’s weird you never see the same thing after Rudy struggles in a game.

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when does that happen?

[QUOTE]The third one is insane. Quin is one of the top-3 coaches in the league. He should have won COTY last season. [/QUOTE]

COTY! :roll:

[QUOTE]-QS still can't draw up an ATO worth a shit. Surprise, surprise. [/QUOTE]

adjustments! :lol

[QUOTE]-JC with four assists and only nine shots. Great reads in this one. Missed some open threes in the corner that usually drop for him. [/QUOTE]

not much usually drops for him :oldlol:

[QUOTE]This is a bad take. Gobert was defending the paint because that's his job. The other four players failed to defend the 3P line because they are terrible defenders who don't even try, even when it's a one-possession game with six seconds on the clock. [/QUOTE]

yep

[QUOTE]2-The pass is made to the perimeter, only a few feet from where Donovan Mitchell is standing. Rather than defend the shot, Mitchell looks at Gobert, who is 20-ft away, as if to say, "Hey, you gonna guard this guy too, or what?"[/QUOTE]

yeah come on Rudy! :facepalm

[QUOTE]Don't get me wrong I am not saying like some others that Quin should be fired, but he might have to try figure this out so we don't get teared apart like this. Same thing was with Miami...[/QUOTE]

adjustments! :D

Eric Walden: L2MR identifies two incorrect calls from last night’s Jazz-Grizz game — both favoring Memphis: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Ja Morant should have been called for traveling with 1:20 left; JJJ should have gotten a loose-ball foul with 0.6 seconds for wrapping up Gobert. Call with 14.1 to go deemed correct.[/URL] pic.twitter.com/f3iQ8JrMRT
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

[url]https://kslsports.com/473295/nba-admits-blown-calls-as-jazz-prepare-for-thunder/[/url]

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/11/24/22794605/utah-jazz-rookie-jared-butler-knows-life-in-nba-will-be-learning-process-baylor-bears-ncaa-champs[/url]

[QUOTE]The Jazz won’t be playing Butler in place of Mitchell or [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/6/11/22451214/mike-conley-left-mark-with-memphis-grizzies-revitalized-career-with-utah-jazz"]Mike Conley[/URL] or [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/10/19/22728962/utah-jazz-joe-ingles-still-talkin-trash-just-dont-ask-him-about-it-donovan-mitchell"]Joe Ingles[/URL] or [URL="https://www.deseret.com/2021/5/25/22452925/utah-jazz-jordan-clarkson-accepted-role-becoming-the-sixth-man-of-the-year-nba-playoffs-memphis"]Jordan Clarkson[/URL]. The Jazz are hunting for an NBA title and while they would like for Butler to develop, they have bigger fish to fry.

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too bad Clarkson sucks

[QUOTE]Ultimately, the decision to give Butler time with the Stars was practical and is in Butler’s best interest. The Jazz believe in Butler and in his future as an NBA player, but he needs time to develop and it’s very hard to develop when you are only going to get a minute here or there at very best and can’t get into any sort of flow.

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every player should be considered a Gleaguer until they prove otherwise

[QUOTE]“No rhythm at all and you’re still judged on those minutes and you want to just say ‘That’s not me, that’s not me!’ But you can’t,” Butler said. “Then you get into this mode where you think everything is your fault and I have to remind myself, Jared, you played three minutes. It’s not my fault.”

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no it was COTY fault for playing you

[QUOTE]“​​I think that’s the reason why it can be so hard,” Butler said. “The perception of the G League is not a glorified thing. Instead it’s like, ‘Oh, you’re not ready for the NBA.’ And I think I’m for sure ready for the NBA. But from the outside it doesn’t seem like a step.”

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you're not ready. It's why Forrest is playing

[QUOTE]See, the Jazz aren’t in the market for a rookie guard right now. But, Conley and Ingles are both on the tail end of their careers, players get moved and traded and leave or get injured everyday in the NBA. Butler is a huge and valuable insurance policy for the Jazz, and he knows it.

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we can only hope Clarkson gets traded

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/24/utah-jazz-ranking-donovan-mitchell/4/[/url]

[QUOTE]He is the engine of a Utah Jazz team that ranks second in the NBA in Offensive Rating at115.03. The fact that Mitchell is able to score 24.4 points per game on a team that features Mike Conley, [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/24/utah-jazz-jordan-clarkson-problem/"]Jordan Clarkson[/URL], and Bojan Bogdanovic is all the more impressive. This offense runs deep, but there’s no question about who sits atop of it.

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Gobert

[QUOTE]All it would take for Mitchell to climb to the top of these rankings would be to bump his three-point efficiency back up to last year’s standard. His decline from an above-average three-point shooter to a below-average one is significant.

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playing and passing the ball would impress me more. Of course no mention of any of that in the ratings

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/24/utah-jazz-jordan-clarkson-problem/[/url]

[QUOTE][h=1]Do the Utah Jazz have a Jordan Clarkson problem?[/h][/QUOTE]

yeah and an even bigger COTY problem

Ben Anderson: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Quin Snyder remembered one of his first big conversations with Rudy Gobert came on the team plane. He told him: “You’re a good player right now and you’ve got a chance to be a great player. And if you want to go beyond that, you can be an elite player,[/URL] which he has become.”

– via [URL="https://twitter.com/BensHoops"]Twitter BensHoops[/URL]

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50291274/could-have-got-really-ugly-jazz-dont-think-close-win-over-thunder-was-reflection-of-play[/url]

[QUOTE]It showed the trust the team has in him. It didn't matter what happened last game, Mitchell is the guy Utah wants to have the ball in those late-game situations. Even with Dort harassing the team for most of the night — Dort forced Mitchell into some of his worst nights (the Jazz star isn't alone in being able to say that) — his teammates deferred to him at the end.

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it's too bad. They have other guys

[QUOTE]"Rudy was a monster late defensively and Donovan closed the game, and that's a pretty good formula," Snyder said.

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Hassan going out and Gobert playing 39 minutes was the difference

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/11/24/22797301/instant-analysis-utah-jazz-hold-on-late-to-get-win-over-oklahoma-city-thunder-donovan-mitchell[/url]

[QUOTE]Really lackluster stuff from a lot of the Jazz’s main guys. Donovan Mitchell couldn’t get his shot to go and he wasn’t adding anything on the defensive end. We know that Dort is a tough defender but the Jazz should be able to find ways to get their main guy some easy looks. Mike Conley seemed particularly frustrated by the end of the game and Joe Ingles was pretty absent.

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Mitchell and D :roll:

[QUOTE]The Jazz seemed pretty pleased with the way they played against the Thunder and thought that the offense looked really good and the score was just close because of missed shots on good looks. Still, the defense allowed more than 100 points from a team that is legitimately designed to lose games.[/QUOTE]

not many games they don't give up a 100. The D wasn't the issue in this one

Giddey, playing in his 18th career game, recorded 19 points, eight assists and seven rebounds in nearly 34 minutes of work. He converted on 8-of-15 shot attempts from the field, including 3-of-4 from 3-point range, during the 110-104 loss. [URL="https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2021/11/24/thunder-josh-giddey-lebron-james-lamelo-ball/"]With the performance, Giddey joined LeBron James and LaMelo Ball as the only teenagers in NBA history to reach 100 rebounds and 100 assists within their first 20 games at 19 years, 45 days.[/URL] He now has 131 rebounds and 105 assists on the season.
– via [URL="https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2021/11/24/thunder-josh-giddey-lebron-james-lamelo-ball/"]Cody Taylor @ The Rookie Wire[/URL]





Eric Walden: Donovan Mitchell, on the Jazz having had six ejections already this season: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]“I guess we’ve been waking up on the wrong side of the pillow. Is that the expression?”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/tribjazz"]Twitter tribjazz[/URL]

[url]https://kslsports.com/473405/mitchell-gobert-save-jazz-late-vs-thunder/[/url]

[QUOTE]One of the stranger storylines that seems to be bugging Jazz fans this season in Jazz coach Quin Snyder’s decision to play second-year guard Trent Forrest over rookie Jared Butler, even in extremely remote first half minutes this season.

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I'm no COTY fan and if they wanted to cry about Paschall or even Oni instead of Forrest I could maybe see it. Butler has sucked. He needs to dominate with the Stars. Clarkson is the problem not Forrest

[QUOTE]“Solid defense, he usually either makes a play that is visible that shows up in the box score like a block or steal or something like that, or he just makes a play by being solid.”

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yep the guy can play. If he can develop even a decent shot he's a keeper

[QUOTE]“Those minutes that he’s given us, rarely does he come in and come out when the lead has changed hands or anything of that nature. Look at what he was tonight in plus-minus.”

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plus minus! :oldlol:

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/11/24/22801874/utah-jazz-pull-out-dicey-win-over-the-oklahoma-city-thunder[/url]

[QUOTE]But tonight I want to sit at the collective Jazz Thanksgiving table and tell you who I was thankful for tonight, and this season: Donovan Mitchell.

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naturally. He sucked for 47 minutes and showed up for 1! :D

[QUOTE]I also want to mention that this has been a weird season and this game was one of the weirdest. It looks like the Jazz are trying to give Mitchell more reps as a playmaker. His assists numbers are right around his average. We’ll see as the season goes how that adjusts but it would be nice to see more and more of Mitchell getting opportunities as a playmaker because that is the thing that always makes the Jazz better. When Mitchell is penetrating the defense and finding the open man, the Jazz are lethal offensively.

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they are the problem is he usually takes a tough shot rather than pass to an open man

[QUOTE]-Some interesting defensive wrinkles in this one. Rudy and Rudy switches on the perimeter, some soft traps/recover w/ Bogie a-la the old Niang/Korver d. There was times where the defense didn't communicate well bc it was doing something new. Gay/Gobert and a Royce/Gobert miscommunication led to open shots but I think the wrinkle is ultimately good in trying to approach new strategies. [/QUOTE]

yeah but will it be used when they really need it? Doubt it

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/25/four-studs-1-dud-utah-jazz-thunder/[/url]

[QUOTE]All told, the star scoring guard finished this contest with 13 points on 6/16 shooting from the field, including 1/7 from three-point range. There’s nothing to worry about here: [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/24/utah-jazz-ranking-donovan-mitchell/"]Mitchell is generally too talented[/URL] for Utah Jazz fans to worry about. However, we’re forced to acknowledge that this performance did not meet the expectations we have of him.

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pretty typical actually

[QUOTE]If we see this version of Clarkson on a more consistent basis, we’ll dedicate an entire article to issuing a formal apology to the reigning Sixth Man of the Year.

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3 good games. Good luck with that :facepalm

[QUOTE]Nothing to see here, really. 15 points on 5/7 shooting from the field, 17 rebounds and 5 block. Ho-hum. It was just another night for Rudy Gobert. The 2 steals were at least somewhat notable.

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exactly. Just another night at the office

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50291340/jazz-players-have-been-ejected-a-lot-this-season-but-it-may-have-a-silver-lining[/url]

[QUOTE]There's no real reason at this point to think the ejections will continue to be a common theme, but it's merely a strange footnote on the season so far. A footnote, though, that could strangely lead to a positive down the road. Most of the ejections came late in the game; Whiteside's didn't. Utah had to play three quarters without a true backup center.

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which meant more Gobert. Probably don't win without the ejection

[QUOTE]For all the fans that wanted to see the Jazz play small-ball last season in the playoffs, you got it on Wednesday. The results? Um, not good; heck, it looked like a layup line at times for the Thunder.

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most of it was without Gay. Put the right guys out there and see what happens.

[QUOTE]It ultimately revealed what we already knew: Utah's perimeter defense is less than ideal. For a small-ball lineup featuring either Eric Paschall or Rudy Gay at center to work, the Jazz have to be able to contain on the perimeter; if they can't, any thought of rolling out the lineup in the playoffs seems ill-advised, at best.

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and therein lies the problem

[QUOTE]And they figured it out enough to at least get the win.

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thanks again Rudy

[url]https://kslsports.com/473235/hassan-whiteside-has-been-best-surprise-of-jazz-season/[/url]

[QUOTE]Towards the end of Favors first stint in Utah, he was widely considered the best backup center in basketball (despite starting at power forward) and gave the Jazz a big boost going up against opposing teams’ second units.

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widely considered in Utah maybe

[QUOTE]In 2019, the Jazz traded Favors to New Orleans to clear room to acquire Bojan Bogdanovic and Mike Conley but struggled to find an adequate backup center in his absence. The team tried out both Ed Davis, Tony Bradley, and rookie Juwan Morgan throughout the season, but none of the three proved they could hold down the job full time.

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Bradley did and Morgan may have been able to as well. Bradley became their scapegoat for other problems that have yet to be fixed. Favors certainly didn't solve them with his huge contract. The D still sucks this year as do Clarkson and COTY

[QUOTE]Unfortunately, during Favors second stint with the Jazz last season, it was clear he’d lost a step athletically and was no longer as dominant against second units.

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He just was never that great and Bradley wasn't the problem

[QUOTE]However, through 18 games, it’s hard to argue Whiteside has been anything but the Jazz best addition from the summer.

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Gay. Butler could be by the end of the year

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/11/25/22800688/be-thankful-that-donovan-mitchells-best-this-season-hasnt-happened-yet-utah-jazz-nba[/url]

[QUOTE]There has been reason to be concerned with Mitchell’s play thus far, but he isn’t worried.

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why? He does this every year [url]https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mitchdo01/splits/[/url] Wait for January though it looks like his D might get even worse then

[QUOTE]Mitchell was critical in the Jazz getting that win, finishing with five assists (he would have had more if his teammates hit their shots). He also scored six huge points at the end of the fourth quarter.

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he was critical in the Jazz not running away to an easy victory

[QUOTE]“I would love to be able to continuously shoot well and sometimes that’s going to happen,” Mitchell said, noting that he’s not worried about his scoring inconsistencies. “But at the end of the day just being able to find guys and make the right reads, that’s all I can ask for, go out there and make the right play. Sometimes that’s putting the ball in the basket, sometimes it’s passing, sometimes it’s guarding.”

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rarely is it guarding or passing! :lol

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/26/utah-jazz-pelicans-odds-lineups-nov-26/[/url]

[QUOTE]With Royce O’Neale listed as questionable tonight with an ankle sprain, Quin Snyder may be forced to insert Joe Ingles or Rudy Gay into his usual starting lineup of Mike Conley, Donovan Mitchell, O’Neale, Bojan Bogdanovic and Rudy Gobert. Otherwise, it’s business as usual for the Jazzmen.

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Should start Gay or Paschall not Ingles. Maybe Fitts can play? Royce's ankle is a bit concerning if it's the same injury that has had him on these reports all year

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/11/26/grading-utah-jazz-trade-idea/[/url]

Jazz have Butler and Forrest. Don't have another young center developing. Stick with Udoka

Mitchell giving his usual "this is not who we are" presser after another game they shouldn't have lost

[QUOTE=El Kabong;14483114]Mitchell giving his usual "this is not who we are" presser after another game they shouldn't have lost[/QUOTE]

it looks like that is who they are at least he is. Can't expect much from him until January though. Clarkson you can't expect much from period

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50292505/hopefully-it-hurts-enough-jazz-looking-in-mirror-after-losing-on-another-game-winner[/url]

[QUOTE]He remembered being in the midst of a nine-game losing streak as he looked at the schedule in an effort to figure out when the next win would come.

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and lucky for the him and the rest of the franchise Rudy emerged shortly after that and saved their sorry asses from their tanking ways

[QUOTE]As it was, the Jazz had nothing to fall back on. Graham's game-winner made the team take a deep look in the mirror. Utah was bad Friday — more than bad. Everything that made Utah's regular season special last season — the extra passes and constant ball movement — disappeared for long portions of the game.

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offensively anyway. They should win most games if the other team doesn't score 100

[QUOTE]Mitchell was 6-of-21 shooting for 16 points; Jordan Clarkson was 3 of 12 for 12 points; and Mike Conley was 4 of 10 for 12 points. Rudy Gobert, meanwhile, had just three shot attempts — a product of the seemingly endless ball stopping.

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sorry 4-10 doesn't belong with those other two :facepalm

[QUOTE]It has been who he is this season, though.

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it's who he's always been. It's not January yet is the good news! :roll:

[QUOTE]Mitchell is 17 of 57 from the field in the last three games — a loss to Memphis, a squeaker in Oklahoma City, and Friday's stunner against the Pelicans. Utah has a losing record (3-4) this season when Mitchell attempts at least 21 shots. He's been indecisive on his reads, he's missed open teammates and has taken poor shots; but he's not alone.

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it starts with him because of his high usage. Put the ball in Conley's hands and good things will happen no matter what his box score ends up looking like

[QUOTE]"That's a great question, I wish I knew the answer," Gobert said. "I don't know how many times I have to lose in the playoffs before we start learning. We are doing the same stuff over and over and over. Hopefully we grow. Hopefully it hurts enough that we put our egos aside, we grow and we play as a team."

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hopefully the owner is really different than the Miller's and isn't afraid to make a coaching change. Starts there. Than it goes to the best player in franchise history. Clarkson should be the easiest fix though who wants that shit show 6th man or not?

[QUOTE]Occasionally, the ball will swing all over the court, reflecting the near-basketball nirvana the Jazz touched last season. More often, though, it's been Mitchell, Conley or Clarkson dribbling out the clock and hoping to find a late look. It's not the team's plan, but it is what's happened.

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Conley hardly touches the ball. Hardly anyone but those other two do

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/11/26/22796814/analysis-jazz-do-nothing-well-in-loss-to-pelicans[/url]

[QUOTE]If the Jazz had somehow pulled out a win on Friday night, maybe I could talk about the fact that Bojan Bogdanovic was shooting really well and finished with 23 points. But, even in the second quarter when Bogdanovic was 4-of-4 from deep and 6-of-7 from the field overall and clearly the only Jazz player who was really in any sort of offensive rhythm, the Jazz couldn’t seem to get him an open look. Maybe that would be explainable against a different team with a better defense, but the Jazz weren’t getting him open against the Pelicans, and that’s because of a lack of movement and effort and awareness from the rest of the team.

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yep it's ridiculous you don't get him the ball when he's making everything

[QUOTE]The Jazz talk a lot about their defense leading to offense and needing to rely on the defense, but they didn’t look good on either end. They were letting the ball stick and getting into iso situation after iso situation, and then on the other end they were missing defensive rotations and just plain not doing well with their assignments to the point that it started just looking like a layup line for the Pelicans.[/QUOTE]

take a lay up line nightly if the other team is held under 100

[QUOTE]Becoming the No. 1 overall seed last season was achieved by the Jazz coming into nearly every game with a huge amount of intensity and jumping out to leads, maintaining them with focused defense and then executing an offensive system that rarely waited until it was too late to start an action. The Jazz were one of the best teams at moving the ball last season, and not enough has changed on this team to explain why the ball is sticking so much.[/QUOTE]

Clarkson and Mitchell have the ball too much and COTY doesn't do anything about it

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/11/26/22804399/utah-jazz-lose-a-heartbreaker-to-the-lowly-new-orleans-pelicans[/url]

[QUOTE]Donovan Mitchell struggled again with this shooting. His shooting slump continues to hurt the Jazz and they need him to find his stroke soon if they want to get back to winning games. Mitchell did have 6 assists but it’s hard for the Jazz to overcome a 6/21 shooting performance no matter how you look at it.

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need him to pass the ball and play D/ Good luck with that

[QUOTE]If Donovan is great at facilitating he isn't taking 21 shots and ending up with a 1.5 to 1 assist to turnover ratio. If everyone made the shot that you passed to, you would be the highest assist leader of all time, so that is just a lazy argument when we had average shooting. I more than just about anyone wants Donovan to play within the offense and become a great passer, but are you really going to excuse another night of 16 points on 21 shots when Bojan had 23 on 14 shots and Gay had 9 points on 5 shots and Royce had 6 points on 4 shots? If Donovan is being guarded tight then he shouldn't have SEVEN times the number of shots as Rudy, 4x Gay, and 5x Royce. I don't care if it is Donovan's fault or Quin's fault, it is damn idiotic to have the guy who is most heavily guarded and the least efficient to take the most shots, usually be a large number. And we do it almost every single game.[/QUOTE]

someone gets it. Throw Clarkson in to that and you have a real shit show

[QUOTE]Seems like he is always tired. Doesn't matter if it is the first game of the season or the playoffs, since his rookie season he always looks winded and tired. One burst of energy, a drive or a dunk and he is gassed. He tries to make it look cool but it is obvious he is exhausted.[/QUOTE]

while Rudy can go hard at both ends all night :facepalm

[QUOTE]Need to trade. If your two power forwards just have below 5 rebounds in a game, then it's that easy to tell why you lost the game. If only Gobert will develop a nice shooting, then he will have no problem contesting a much heavier center.


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PF! :roll:

[QUOTE]Q has to go, the sooner the better. A new coach will tell DM and Clarlson to look to pass 1st (hopefully), would conserve Joe's energy, would let Conley rest some games, and develop Butler and Hughes.[/QUOTE]

yep it should have happened after the loss to Denver in the playoffs if not sooner

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Tony Jones: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Mike Conley is on track to play in the back end of a back to back for the first time this season.[/URL] Pretty strong message to how much this team is trying to shake it’s slump
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Andy Larsen: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Royce O’Neale is out tonight due to an right ankle sprain[/URL].
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