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[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/28/the-utah-jazz-are-rumored-to-be-open-to-making-moves-into-the-start-of-the-regular-season/[/url]
[QUOTE]That would be absurd, especially considering what Bradley Beal and Kevin Durant both respectively went for in their trades with the Phoenix Suns. Anunoby isn’t near Durant, and while he’s closer to Beal, Beal is still clearly the better scorer. So why would Anunoby get three-first rounders?
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elite defender and younger
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/28/which-of-the-the-utah-jazzs-two-way-players-has-the-best-shot-of-seeing-real-time/[/url]
Juzang obviously. They don't have many wings and he played last year
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/27/is-lauri-markkanen-a-small-forward-or-a-power-forward-for-the-utah-jazz/[/url]
apparently he's a 3. Don't really get it
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/27/is-lauri-markkanen-a-small-forward-or-a-power-forward-for-the-utah-jazz/[/url]
[QUOTE]Injuries to Clarkson forced some position changes, but it’d be far to say that Markkanen played more small forward for the Jazz than not. After all, Olynyk, Vanderbilt, and Kessler were all far less skilled offensively than Markkanen, so the Jazz moved Markkanen out to the perimeter far more often in those situations.
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Olynyk was more the 3 than Lauri when they started together as far as the way they play
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/27/og-anunoby-trade-proposal-utah-jazz-rich-even-debate/[/url]
[QUOTE]No, Sexton and a singular first is more than fair for a guy who would see his offensive production dip dramatically moving from a third option on a Toronto team to a fourth or fifth option in Utah. [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/26/will-the-utah-jazz-have-any-interest-in-extending-lauri-markkanen-next-season/"]Lauri Markkanen[/URL], John Collins, and Jordan Clarkson are all going to get more touches than Aununoby, not to mention the desire to see what Keyonte George and Taylor Hendricks can do.
[/QUOTE]doubt The Bum would be here long if they got OG
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/27/the-utah-jazz-should-learn-from-the-cleveland-cavaliers-predicament-dont-go-star-shopping/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz can avoid the mistakes of the Lakers, Cavs and Nets by staying the course and building a team that can compete long-past others they’ll go up against.
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stay the course depending on what opportunities arise
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/27/3-former-utah-jazz-players-were-rooting-to-succeed-this-season/3/[/url]
[QUOTE]We’re hoping Exum finally lives up to his lofty hype.
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I'll be surprised if he doesn't still suck
3rd contract is the charm eh Wizard? :lol
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/27/3-interesting-not-great-trade-proposals-utah-jazz/4/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Trail Blazers won’t make this move. They’re not going to trade away a potential All-Star for Sexton and a potential late-first-round draft pick next season. Simmons is a viable 20-point-per-game scorer and giving him up for relatively little isn’t exactly a great thing.
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they have a bunch of guards so they might!
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/26/3-of-the-best-role-players-the-utah-jazz-have-had-in-the-last-10-years/[/url]
[QUOTE]Before we get into the top three, we have to take a second and look at what the former Enes Kanter, now Freedom, did for the Jazz. While he wasn’t able to live up to the hype of a high draft pick, the 2011 third-overall pick did have a solid NBA career. At least on offense. The defensively challenged Kanter/Freedom played four seasons for the Jazz, most of which he came off the bench for. He averaged nine points and five rebounds per game, and while he wasn’t great on defense, there exists a universe where he and Rudy Gobert became a duel tandem much like the Cavs have with Evan Mobley and Jarrett Allen.
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he'd be better spotting up for 3. The problem is he was more of a post player. Makes little sense with Gobert as with Favors
[QUOTE]He came over from Cleveland (why is it always Cleveland?) in 2018 to help the Jazz finish the year with 48 wins for the season. He then stayed in Utah for the next season (’18-’19), where he had 12 points, and five rebounds but was largely ineffective as a scorer. Still, thanks to his impact on the team, the Jazz won 50 games.
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the biggest problem was his 8 3 att. a game
[QUOTE][h=2]Kyle Korver[/h][/QUOTE]
Biggest problem was Jerry played him too much and didn't let him fire away from 3. He was doing the mid range curls instead. A waste
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/26/6-biggest-questions-for-the-utah-jazz-heading-to-training-camp/2/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=2]How will the rookies perform?[/h][/QUOTE]
especially the two we haven't seen yet
[QUOTE][h=2]Who is going to start at point guard?[/h][/QUOTE]
1 choice as the roster stands Sexton
[QUOTE]That still leaves Olynyk, Kessler, Samanic, Potter, Collins, Yurtseven, and Hendricks to fight for three, maybe four slots in the rotation. And if we’re being even more honest, there’s really just one spot up for grabs; as Kessler and Collins are your starters at center and power forward, while Olynyk will be the first big off the bench.
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I could see Hendricks off the bench 1st as their Vanderbilt. Samanic or Yurtseven could be in the mix as well I guess
[QUOTE]Maybe he could be the next great NBA center. But he’s got to put in the time to develop those skills, and the Jazz has to be willing to trust him with the ball more. Hopefully, a strong outing with Team USA in the FIBA World Cup will help make running plays for him an easier decision to make.
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I doubt he's the next great NBA center
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/25/did-the-utah-jazz-draft-the-right-players-considering-their-current-question-marks/[/url]
[QUOTE]If you have a clear and obvious option, there’s never debate. And the Jazz don’t have a clear option.
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seems clear to me
[QUOTE]So in that regard, yes, George was the right call. And while he may be hurt and probably won’t see a lot of action this season, so was Sensabaugh. The wing depth on the Jazz isn’t great, at least not with true small forwards. Sensabaugh may be a bit slow to play small forward but he’s certainly heavy enough to play power forward, so he’ll find his role eventually.
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sounds like they want to change his body. Maybe make him a 2?
[QUOTE]Then there’s Hendricks, who may be the best of the three, and somehow, the least likely to make an impact this year. Hendricks is now behind John Collins on the depth chart of power forwards. He’s also gotta face stiff competition from Kelly Olynyk, Walker Kessler, Lauri Markkanen, and even his rookie classmate, Sensabaugh.
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I'm guessing he'll be hard to keep off the floor
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/25/utah-jazz-may-getting-better-draft-picks-thanks-donovan-mitchell/[/url]
[QUOTE]If and when Mitchell leaves, the Cavs will likely start struggling more than they have, and the Jazz will end up getting much earlier picks than they had originally hoped.[/QUOTE]
wouldn't count on it. One of their small guards needs to go
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/25/ranking-all-5-utah-jazz-players-in-the-fiba-world-cup-by-importance/3/[/url]
[QUOTE]It’d be fair to say that Kessler is either the best, or one of the two best defensive players on Team USA’s FIBA squad already, and he’s just in his second year as a pro. He’s already seen as a Defensive Player of the Year candidate by some and his impact on the defense will be important.
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no argument for him being better than the DPOY :facepalm
[QUOTE]Justin Brownlee had a better outing with the Philippine national team in the two games in the World Cup Asia Quafliers, but despite averaging more points (29 to 25), rebounds (8 to 4), field goal and three-point percentages, and a higher efficiency rating, the national team went with Clarkson over Brownlee.
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getting outplayed by a nobody. Not surprised!
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/07/24/utah-jazzs-walker-kessler-makes-top-14-defensive-player-year-odds/[/url]
[QUOTE]Kessler will need to play hard, and consistently if he wants to prove he’s too much lower than the Top 10. Right now I think it’s fair that former Utah Jazz player Rudy Gobert is ahead of Kessler, but that opinion may change if Kessler comes out of the blocks strong.
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until he shows he can guard in space he's not in the conversation
[url]https://kslsports.com/503527/jazz-notes-are-utah-jazz-done-this-offseason/[/url]
[QUOTE]“(Herro) is a little bit repetitive for what the Jazz already have. He is a Jordan Clarkson-type of player,” Anderson said.
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which is what I like about it. Clarkson won't be here long if they get Herro!
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/10/kris-dunn-starting-at-point-guard-for-the-utah-jazz-would-not-be-a-total-shock/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz have a quagmire at point guard, dare we say, a conundrum. The team has no less than six players who could end up starting for them at the position this offseason. Granted, with differing odds than the others. Those six men are rookie Keyonte George, veteran two-way guard Kris Dunn, the dynamic scorer part one in Collin Sexton, a physical player in[URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/09/talen-horton-tucker-seems-to-enjoy-being-with-the-utah-jazz/"] Talen Horton-Tucker[/URL], the other dynamic scorer part two (Electric Boogaloo) Jordan Clarkson, and a player who’s on a two-way contract, but isn’t a tjwo-way player with Johnny Juzang,
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I guess Juzang couldn't be worse than Clarkson
[QUOTE]Sexton is a carbon copy clone of Clarkson, and if he can get an extension with the Jazz, will likely hasten the clubs’ desire to move on from Clarkson and get some young assets back in return. Horton-Tucker is an inefficient scorer, but he’s arguably the most physical two-way player the team has. As for Dunn, no guard passes or defends better than him, but he’s nowhere near the scorer anyone else is.
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shorter, faster, can shoot, Sure exactly the same player :facepalm
[QUOTE]Then there’s George, an unknown commodity.
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He's shown me a lot more than Juzang :lol
[QUOTE]So when put in proper context, it’s not fair to say that Dunn starting at the position would be a total shock, as [URL="https://www.si.com/nba/jazz/news/jazz-kris-dunn-starting-nba-season-shock"]Sports Illustrated claimed[/URL]. In fact, Dunn is our front-runner to start this season. Yes, Clarkson and Sexton are better scorers, but assuming the starting[URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/09/jordan-clarkson-breaks-into-the-top-20-of-shooting-guards/"] rotation includes Clarkson[/URL], Lauri Markkanen, and John Collins, then you need someone who can be a pass-first player on offense while matching Walker Kessler’s energy on defense. After all, Clarkson, Markkanen, and Collins will lead the team in attempts, so you don’t want another shoot-first guard on the floor with them.
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He might be the best choice but I'd be surprised if he's in the rotation
[QUOTE]Plus none of them are going to be on the NBA All-Defense team anytime soon, so Dunn’s defense will help Kessler not be the only aggressive defender on the court.
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Dunn might be if he starts
[QUOTE]But if the idea is to have Clarkson, Markkanen, Collins, and Kessler on the floor to start every game, then Dunn is the guy to go with.
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my idea is to have the Bum off the team
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/10/one-year-later-did-the-utah-jazz-win-the-rudy-gobert-trade-with-the-minnesota-timberwolves/[/url]
[QUOTE]The sad truth is that the Wolves were not built for defense even before Gobert’s arrival. He excelled in Utah due to the team building a defense that used him correctly, and it showed on a nightly basis that Minnesota did not know how to use Gobert.
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Initially but COTM gave all that up for 3's. I'd say the Wolves arguably have more defensive potential than the Jazz did. Don't have a 6'4 PF or little guards who don't even try to guard anyone or a coach that thinks he's smarter than everyone
[QUOTE]If those two young men turn into stars and nothing else from this trade develops, those two players could fortify the Jazz for the next 10-15 years. Coupled with the other draft picks that the T-Wolves sent over, plus the players that were also shipped out following the deal, this trade may set the Jazz up for not just the next decade, but the next decades to come.
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Will either be able to carry a bad team by themselves?
[QUOTE]You trade one starter for two? That’s usually a win. Plus you [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/09/talen-horton-tucker-seems-to-enjoy-being-with-the-utah-jazz/"]got Talen Horton-Tucker[/URL] in this trade by proxy, and he may be a big chip for you down the line to move as well. This trade set the Jazz up for years.
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if he was a big chip he'd be gone already
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/10/what-did-hoops-reference-give-the-utah-jazzs-2023-offseason/[/url]
[QUOTE]He didn’t go into detail about why they didn’t deserve an A, which is fair to say a grade most of us think the Jazz got, but it’s not an insult by any means. There are lingering questions about Collins’ ability to fit in next to Lauri Markkanen, and the rookies are of course unproven to any real degree.
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F until The Bum is gone!
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/12/bleacher-report-pitches-a-wild-trade-where-the-utah-jazz-land-damian-lillard/[/url]
actually doesn't look bad but it would be hard to give up George now
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/12/do-the-utah-jazz-need-to-do-a-full-rebuild-like-so-many-other-nba-teams/[/url]
[QUOTE]So why would the Jazz sell off their best players just to tank and get someone like Jaylen Brown, a guy a streaky All-Star who 20 years ago would be seen on the same level as Cuttino Mobley?
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I liked Mobley but :facepalm
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/12/one-year-later-grading-donovan-mitchell-trade-cleveland-cavaliers/2/[/url]
[QUOTE]The future for the Jazz looks a lot brighter than for the Cavs. The team has five picks to develop into stars, none of which are coming until Donovan Mitchell is likely to be gone from the team. The first pick arrives in Utah in 2025, the first year that Mitchell could take matters into his own hands and leave Cleveland. If he does that, then the Cavs will likely tumble out of playoff contention on account of trading away their depth for Mitchell.
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Doubt it. They'll get better when they put someone with size next to Garland that does more than gun
[QUOTE]For the Utah Jazz, it’s hard to look at this trade and not gush about how badly they ripped off the Cavaliers. You got five picks and three players for three years of controllability of a player whose biggest knock is that he couldn’t win in the playoffs? Yikes. If I were the Cavs, I never would’ve made the trade in the first place, as guys like Lauri Markkanen and Collin Sexton are more than capable of producing better numbers than Mitchell on his own.
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I like Sexton more. He's faster, better shooter. better finisher, more willing passer, plays hard at both ends. Big question now is if he can stay healthy
[QUOTE]The Cavs on the other hand, could still earn themselves a good grade if they win the NBA title with Mitchell, or directly from a second Mitchell trade. Until that happens though, it’s hard to give the Cavs a good grade on a trade that crippled their future plans and made their roster less talented in the process. Mitchell may have been the best player of the three traded, but he’s not so much better than Markkanen anymore. The fact that the Cavs had to overpay for an average player to try and replace Markkanen while investing more time and money into Caris LeVert to replace Sexton shows you that this trade was short-sighted.
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Lauri is better. Again he does more than just shoot the ball
[url]https://fansided.com/2023/08/11/jazz-projected-lineup-rotations-2023-24-season/[/url]
[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz starting point guard: Jordan Clarkson[/h][/QUOTE]
the only thing about him that resembles a pg is he loves to pound the ball :roll:
[QUOTE][h=4][B]Other players who could receive minutes at point guard[/B]: Talen Horton-Tucker, Keyonte George, Kris Dunn[/h][/QUOTE]
be shocked if Sexton is starting and George isn't his backup as the roster stands
[QUOTE][h=2]Utah Jazz starting shooting guard: Ochai Agbaji[/h][/QUOTE]
only one hat makes sense if they don't end up with Herro
[QUOTE][h=3][B]Primary backup shooting guard[/B]: Keyonte George[/h][/QUOTE]
they want him at the 1. He looked like a 1 in summer league. They'd send him to the Gleague to play the one if he's not at least the backup with the Jazz
[QUOTE][h=4][B]Other players who could receive minutes at shooting guard[/B]: Talen Horton-Tucker, Jordan Clarkson, Brice Sensabaugh[/h][/QUOTE]
The Bum. The others aren't 2's. I'd say they still need to sign some
[QUOTE][h=3][B]Primary backup small forward[/B]: Talen Horton-Tucker[/h][/QUOTE]
he can only play the 1 with his skillset. Would be nice if people actually watched the Jazz befiore writing about them
[QUOTE][h=4][B]Other players who could receive minutes at small forward[/B]: Taylor Hendricks, Brice Sensabaugh, Simone Fontecchio[/h][/QUOTE]
Samanic
[QUOTE] Part of the reason for Okongwu’s strong season last year was the addition of new head coach Quin Snyder. After the All-Star break, the Hawks parted ways with Nate McMillan and hired Snyder almost immediately after. It was under Snyder that Okongwu began to get up more three-point shots. Since he’s been a head coach in the NBA, Snyder’s teams have been known for their offense. With a full season under Snyder, it’s not a stretch to envision Okongwu’s offense reaching another level this upcoming year. [URL="https://clutchpoints.com/hawks-news-onyeka-okongwu-ready-for-big-season-with-atlanta-exclusive"]“I like Quin,” Okongwu said. “He’s got a high IQ, he pays attention to detail, he’s fun to play for and I’m excited to play a whole season for him for real.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://clutchpoints.com/hawks-news-onyeka-okongwu-ready-for-big-season-with-atlanta-exclusive"]David Yapkowitz @ Clutch Points[/URL]
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until the last couple years they were known for D. Rubio and Favors in the corner was a joke!
[QUOTE] Alec Burks. Similarly to Bogdanović, Burks is a proven veteran who could play on any team in the NBA. A professional bucket-getter, [URL="https://theathletic.com/4772365/2023/08/14/pistons-assets-trade-nba-season/"]Burks, a career 38 percent 3-point shooter, enters this season on an expiring contract and, also, will regularly hear his name in trade rumors leading up to the 2024 NBA trade deadline[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/4772365/2023/08/14/pistons-assets-trade-nba-season/"]James L. Edwards III @ The Athletic[/URL]
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Anyone but cotm. Was best at getting to the rim and line
[QUOTE] Ben Anderson: Per the @utahjazz: Taylor Hendricks (right hamstring strain) has been cleared to participate in all on court activities. Brice Sensabaugh (left knee surgery recovery) continues to make progress following his surgery last March.
– via Twitter BensHoops
Andy Larsen: Jazz announce Keyonte George has been cleared to resume all on court activities after his summer league ankle sprain.
– via Twitter andyblarsen[/QUOTE]
how were they dtd during summer league?
[url]https://sircharlesincharge.com/2023/08/20/nba-predicting-jersey-retired-teams/15/[/url]
[QUOTE]
[h=3]Utah Jazz – Rudy Gobert, #0[/h] Who has the most win shares in Utah Jazz history after Karl Malone and John Stockton? Rudy Gobert.
The French big man spent nine seasons in Salt Lake City. Gobert was a three-time NBA All-Star and three-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year while a member of the Jazz.
He played in 611 games in a Jazz Uniform and averaged 12.5 points, 11.6 rebounds, and 2.2 blocks per game.
[I][B]Other Players in Consideration:[/B] Andrei Kirilenko, Gordon Hayward, Donovan Mitchell[/I]
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should get a statue. Deron should be next though. The others shouldn't go up
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/14/4-legendary-utah-jazz-players-with-a-case-to-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/5/[/url]
none if them should but it is the basketball HOF
[QUOTE] Olgun Uluc: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]The final 12-man Australian Boomers team for the 2023 FIBA World Cup has just officially been finalised[/URL]. Xavier Cooks Dyson Daniels Danté Exum Josh Giddey Chris Goulding Josh Green Joe Ingles Nick Kay Patty Mills Duop Reath Matisse Thybulle Jack White
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/OlgunUluc"]Twitter OlgunUluc[/URL]
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Exum is really the best they have?
[url]https://saltcityhoops.com/athletic-ranking-features-three-jazz-bigs-but-omits-a-dynamic-guard/[/url]
[QUOTE]To be fair, The Athletic’s ranking is based on what they are projecting for the upcoming season, so perhaps Partnow thinks this season will be a step back for Clarkson due to the addition of Collins, and maybe the expected rise in usage from other young players. Or, maybe they are heavily influenced by analytics, which have not always shown Clarkson in the brightest of lights. All thaty said, as someone who has watched nearly every game that Clarkson has played for the Jazz, he is certainly one of the top 125 players in the NBA.
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one of the worst I've ever seen
[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2023/8/25/23842452/which-jersey-numbers-should-actually-be-retired-for-the-utah-jazz[/url]
[QUOTE]I’ve decided to analyze these debates in regards to the Jazz players. We all agree that Jerry Sloan, Hot Rod Hundley, Frank Laydon, and Larry Miller deserve to be honored for their time with the Jazz. That said, they should all probably be more like Hundley’s, which doesn’t keep a valid jersey number retired. As for the players, I’ll look at a couple of questions. Are there players currently honored that might not deserve it? Are there players that should have their numbers retired but haven’t?
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Only be Hot Rod if it was up to me.
[QUOTE]Outside of “The Statues,” the other players that stand out in this category are Jeff Hornacek, Mark Eaton, and Thurl Bailey. Hornacek didn’t play as many games for the Jazz as some of the other players on the list, but he was a key contributor to Utah’s most dominant years, and his win totals reflect that. Eaton played the third most games for the Jazz. Bailey played a lot of games and won a lot, too.
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None should be in the rafters
[QUOTE]Darrell Griffith, Andrei Kirilenko, and Rudy Gobert also made decent contributions here but far beneath the levels of the others mentioned. The big standouts to me are the players with the worst showings in team success. Adrian Dantley and Pete Maravich. Both players have their numbers retired, and their accolades and accomplishments will show why, but they struggled in this category. Maravich’s stats include New Orleans and Utah, as it is the same franchise. Despite his statistical dominance, Maravich never made the playoffs with the Jazz. Those teams were frequent under-performers, and it resulted in a sale of the franchise. Dantley took over as the new star with flashy stats but few wins. He did manage to get the Jazz to the playoffs in some of his last seasons with Utah but never made much of a postseason splash.
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Gobert is #3 for the Jazz. It's not close. A,D. is a HOFer that started their playoff run. Maravich also a HOFer. Griffith shouldn't be up there
[QUOTE][B]Retired numbers based purely on team success and longevity: [/B]
Definitely: Karl Malone, John Stockton
Likely: Jeff Hornacek, Mark Eaton, Thurl Bailey
Unlikely: Rudy Gobert, Darrell Griffith, Andrei Kirilenko
Definitely not: Adrian Dantley, Pete Maravich, Deron Williams, Donovan Mitchell
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:roll:
[QUOTE]Mark Eaton also has an impressive resume with DPOY awards and All-Defense selections, but his one All-Star team is a small number for this group. Deron Williams had an incredible peak for the Jazz, with two All-Star games and two All-NBA team honors, but his lack of longevity with Utah hurts him again. Donovan Mitchell made three All-Star teams with the Jazz and got a Rookie of the Year award, but he was never an All-NBA player for Utah. Andrei Kirilenko made one All-Star game and had a few All-defense selections but didn’t maintain star-level play for long.
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Deron was their best player
[QUOTE][B]Retired numbers based purely on accolades: [/B]
Definitely: Karl Malone, John Stockton
Likely: Adrian Dantley, Pete Maravich, Rudy Gobert
Unlikely: Mark Eaton, Deron Williams, Donovan Mitchell, Andrei Kirilenko
Definitely not: Jeff Hornacek, Darrell Griffith, Thurl Bailey
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got it except I'd probably include Deron
[QUOTE]After the two greatest players in Jazz history, it’s a mess. Some players had more playoff success, some had more awards, and some had better stats. Using these three categories, only one player was twice in the “likely” category and never in the “definitely not” category. That player is Rudy Gobert. Gobert checks the boxes of playing enough games, winning enough, racking up accolades, and climbing the statistical leaderboards. Gobert is the third most deserving player to have his jersey retired. Since he’s still playing, it will be a while until we know if he’ll get his jersey up there, but based on these comparisons, he should.
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you got it! Should have gotten a statue too
[QUOTE]The other players to make the “likely” category at least once include Bailey, Kirilenko, Dantley, Maravich, Hornacek, and Eaton. Each has a case, but not a rock-solid one. Hornacek was the third-best player on the best Jazz teams but never a star. Bailey had the longevity and the statistical ranks but was more of a role player. Kirilenko’s stats are impressive, but his peak was too short. Maravich and Dantley have the accolades but not the wins. Eaton has a little bit of everything but not a lot of any one category.
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Dantley took the worst franchise in the league from 30 wins to 45 and the division title to start their long playoff streak :facepalm
[QUOTE]That leaves Griffith, Williams, and Mitchell as the only ones not to make it to “likely” in any of the three categories. They are the first cuts. One has to wonder why Griffith’s jersey was retired in the first place. While he was an exciting rookie for the team, he wasn’t a real star at any point in his career, and he never led the team to many wins. Williams and Mitchell were another case. Both were on track to see their jerseys hanging from the top of the Delta Center, but they didn’t have enough time to make it happen.
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Griffith put up all star numbers before holding out and never getting his job back as payment. Guess they felt they owed him after that shit? Mitchell will be there I'm sure. Deron should be
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/29/surprise-surprise-danny-ainge-tops-his-own-sabermetrics-system/[/url]
[QUOTE]One would argue that his all-star ascension is more impressive than Walker Kessler, the key piece of the Gobert trade. So why the Gobert trade is considered a home run, but the Mitchell isn’t, when they happened at just about the same time is baffling.
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Jazz would have been contenders last year if they'd just made the Mitchell trade
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/28/the-utah-jazz-knew-they-made-the-right-call-trading-rudy-gobert-but-the-2023-fiba-world-cup-hasnt-hurt/[/url]
[QUOTE]And it’s that downfall from Gobert that has everyone happy that the Utah Jazz traded him when they did. After the season he had with the Timberwolves in 2022-2023, and the issues he’s had in the FIBA World Cup, it’s clear that while Gobert is still an NBA starter, he’s no longer an elite player.
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not convinced yet. His numbers were down last year after being at the top of his game the year before. Is that because he's dropped off or because he was on another team?
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/25/utah-jazz-history-revised-what-if-2007-playoffs/[/url]
[QUOTE]Did the Jazz miss a golden opportunity in 2007 to win the NBA title? It certainly seems like the stars aligned a bit for that playoff run. If they could have beaten San Antonio, they would have had a chance.[/QUOTE]
4-1 :facepalm
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/25/the-utah-jazz-are-named-as-a-team-with-a-sneakily-good-offseason/[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz did a great job bringing back key guys who could be huge for them. Kris Dunn, Luka Samanic, Johnny Juzang, and others give this team depth in a very quiet and deceptive way. This is not a squad to sleep on and we are very happy to see others wake up to see how good the Jazz’s offseason was.[/QUOTE]
Juzang? :facepalm
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/24/bleacher-reports-wild-lineup-isnt-wild-so-much-as-its-bad/[/url]
[QUOTE]Samanic is not some one-note big-man like guys from the 1990s. He’s someone who has good handling for a man his size, and shockingly good court vision. When you give him 25-30 minutes per game, Samanic, while working in the post more nights than not, will average anywhere from 2.5 to 4 assists per game.
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when did he show any of this? :lol
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/24/dominique-wilkins-explains-why-he-didnt-want-to-go-to-the-utah-jazz/[/url]
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This was a bad break for the Jazz. The ’82 draft wasn’t deep and only had three real “prizes” in it, and they went first through third. So the Jazz didn’t have another option. That said, they could’ve gotten far more for Wilkins, like a first-round draft pick.
Heck, even an Atlanta second-rounder may have netted them someone like Doc Rivers in ’83. Say what you will about him as a coach, he was an All-Star caliber player. The lack of foresight in trading away Wilkins will forever be one of the few big mistakes the franchise has made.[/QUOTE]
wouldn't have wanted either!
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/24/the-number-one-trade-by-the-utah-jazz-comes-as-a-bit-of-a-surprise/[/url]
[QUOTE]Dantley didn’t carry the Jazz to an NBA Championship, so it’s fair to say his trade was limited in its scope. The trades for Gobert and Mitchell not only brought two huge talents to Utah but also will now allow them to shape their destiny over the next decade in any way they see fit.
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The franchise might have never won and they likely wouldn't be in Utah without A.D. :facepalm
[QUOTE]Dantley’s run with the franchise was spectacular, but when his time with the franchise ended, they were left worse off. That’s not the case with Mitchell and Gobert, at least comparatively. Already Walker Kessler (Gobert trade) and Lauri Markkanen (Mitchell trade) have exceeded anything Dantley brought back in return.
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Remains to be seen how much it helps them getting rid of Gobert. They were worse. Jazz got better after A'D. because of Stockton/Malone
[url]https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10086415-trade-ideas-for-likeliest-nba-buyers-and-sellers-this-season[/url]
awful
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2023/08/22/better-jazz-career-donovan-mitchell-gordon-hayward/[/url]
Hayward. Not close
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