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I mean, regardless of Epstein's links to anyone else, our President f@3ked an underage prostitute.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15021058]"Trump is really done this time..."
"The walls are closing in..."
You guys really never learn.[/QUOTE]
that's not the flex you think it is pal. it's actually a key component as to why this entire thing is such a shitshow. people like you will defend trump under any circumstance, including but not limited to him being a confirmed pdf file and protecting his pdf file peers. you're a disgusting human being.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021071]I mean, regardless of Epstein's links to anyone else, our President f@3ked an underage prostitute.[/QUOTE]
and the magas are OK with that
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021066]Dooms why don't you just go ahead and take us straight to the end of your rabbit hole without us having to decode Batman and all that.
We know there are others on the list, Bill Clinton probably on there. And we know there are powerful people in Israel that have tons of sway here and pull strings. But what wild conspiracy is it you want to sell this time?
Trump is the current POTUS, and arguably the most powerful man in the world. So I'm not going to apologize for focusing on him.[/QUOTE]
You should apologize though, because it exposes you as the shameless hypocrite you are.
A principled person would be holding everyone to the same standard, but it's clear you have no interest in that. When Biden was POTUS and he was "the most powerful man in the world"... you said nothing. The Epstein stuff was out there but there was zero call for Biden to release any information. He went his entire time without ever having to take a single question. Not about Epstein and not about his daughter's diary. Not only that but there was zero curiosity on your behalf.
You knew back then then there could possibly be a network of elites engaging in filth, but because Biden and the democrats were in office you pretended like it was all some right wing conspiracy. If Trump is guilty of covering it up, that would mean your precious democrats were covering it up too.
So yes I'm glad that you're willing to hold democrats accountable after the fact, but we both know it's only because it gives you an equal chance to demonize Trump. When it was happening in real time, you were very much willing to let it all slide.
[QUOTE=highwhey;15021073]that's not the flex you think it is pal. it's actually a key component as to why this entire thing is such a shitshow. people like you will defend trump under any circumstance, including but not limited to him being a confirmed pdf file and protecting his pdf file peers. you're a disgusting human being.[/QUOTE]
You're a disgusting human being. I've exposed you so many times for being liar and phony I've lost count. I've never even met you but I can tell you're miserable person who showers at best every other day and hasn't changed his bed sheets in a year.
Literally nothing has been confirmed and there is zero evidence supporting your claim. Trump being in on the coverup doesn't mean he was in on the trafficking and the other stuff.
I don't defend any Trump under any circumstance. I already said if he's found guilty he should be held accountable. I posted this in plain english. Put down the pot and stop jerking off. Your brain is totally fried.
[QUOTE=highwhey;15021074]and the magas are OK with that[/QUOTE]
Baller is, yes.
That is why I called the one I posted a "non-tribal"
[url]https://x.com/JustTheTweets17/status/1942624633053696047[/url]
She isn't trying to excuse Trump by pointing at Biden. She isn't on a mission to make libs look like hypocrites. She isn't in there saying "well Kamala would have been worse".
She legitimately cares that Trump raped a teenage girl, and she is disgusted by it. And now she is willing to throw away over a decade of campaigning for Trump. She doesn't give a f@#k about libs saying "we told you". She isn't in it to score tribal points.\
She's a real one.
And there are more in that thread, I see a MAGA farmer saying he is done and now wants amnesty for his illegal workers. I see another saying people he knows have thrown away their shwag, too embarrassing to wear a MAGA hat now.
Never seen this before.
Now Baller is right in that this is Trump's last term, and we are way past the point of "the walls are closing in he's finished". The damage is done. But at least the country is finally coming together on this. At least the non-tribals. There are still a lot Ballers out there who will die on the MAGA hill.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15021075]
A principled person would be holding everyone to the same standard, but it's clear you have no interest in that. When Biden was POTUS and he was "the most powerful man in the world"... you said nothing. The Epstein stuff was out there but there was zero call for Biden to release any information. [/QUOTE]
especially if it incriminated Trump.... why wouldn't Biden release that info?
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021066]And we know there are powerful people in Israel that have tons of sway here and pull strings.[/QUOTE]
But not in this situation huh?
Trump raped a teenage girl is all you're alluding to.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15021085]But not in this situation huh?
Trump raped a teenage girl is all you're alluding to.[/QUOTE]
And you are saying Trump didn't? No matter who Epstein is linked to, our POTUS raped a teen. Right?
This is why I said you need to just go ahead and skip ahead to the end of your rabbit hole for us. You're to vague and we all assume you're going to go somewhere weird with this. So just do us all a favor and get there already. Did Israel force Trump to rape a girl or something?
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021082]Baller is, yes.
That is why I called the one I posted a "non-tribal"
[url]https://x.com/JustTheTweets17/status/1942624633053696047[/url]
She isn't trying to excuse Trump by pointing at Biden. She isn't on a mission to make libs look like hypocrites. She isn't in there saying "well Kamala would have been worse".
She legitimately cares that Trump raped a teenage girl, and she is disgusted by it. And now she is willing to throw away over a decade of campaigning for Trump. She doesn't give a f@#k about libs saying "we told you". She isn't in it to score tribal points.\
She's a real one.
And there are more in that thread, I see a MAGA farmer saying he is done and now wants amnesty for his illegal workers. I see another saying people he knows have thrown away their shwag, too embarrassing to wear a MAGA hat now.
Never seen this before.
Now Baller is right in that this is Trump's last term, and we are way past the point of "the walls are closing in he's finished". The damage is done. But at least the country is finally coming together on this. At least the non-tribals. There are still a lot Ballers out there who will die on the MAGA hill.[/QUOTE]
it's good that there a principled individuals like her amongst MAGA, she's willing to hold trump accountable while other maga folks like baller and dooms just keep trying to spin this and point fingers at biden.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021088]And you are saying Trump didn't? No matter who Epstein is linked to, our POTUS raped a teen. Right?
This is why I said you need to just go ahead and skip ahead to the end of your rabbit hole for us. You're to vague and we all assume you're going to go somewhere weird with this. So just do us all a favor and get there already. Did Israel force Trump to rape a girl or something?[/QUOTE]
Are you being serious right now?
The files are not being released under Biden or Trump because it indicates Israel was running a Mossad Op.
what was Biden's team doing the past 4 years? Why were they so incompetent in getting the info to the masses? Missed Opportunity.
Just like the Book of Revelations... all roads lead to Israel. Zion is the bottom of the rabbit hole.
[QUOTE=highwhey;15021090]it's good that there a principled individuals like her amongst MAGA, she's willing to hold trump accountable while other maga folks like baller and dooms just keep trying to spin this and point fingers at biden.[/QUOTE]
First of all.... I would never be foolish enough to trust the President of USA. Biden or Trump or whoever the f*ck is in office.
Secondly... I clearly stated in the election thread we'd be better off if Kamala won, that she was in fact the lesser of two evils.... and I stated the reasons why.
You're not going to find a Trump Apologist over here in my household. Nor are you going to find anybody in my home that voted for Trump in the past 3 elections.
Lastly.... the only thing that has gotten exposed is a massive cover-up.... and to suggest Trump is the only thing that is being covered up is closed minded af.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Trump and Elon beef was manufactured to take attention away from the bbb.
The Epstein client list?
Epstein was jailed under Trump, and he also died under Trump. Trump killed him. Because he raped a girl.
[QUOTE=j3lademaster;15021097]I wouldn’t be surprised if the Trump and Elon beef was manufactured to take attention away from the bbb.[/QUOTE]
Elon tweets about how disgusted he is with the BBB all the time. It's one the main reason they are at odds.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021099]
Epstein was jailed under Trump, and he also died under Trump. Trump killed him. Because he raped a girl.[/QUOTE]
I love how TDS has turned you into a conspiracy theorist.
The "conspiracy" angle is all you care about. The issue isn't that me or anyone else has TDS, it's that you have CDS. Conspiracy Derangement.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021103]The "conspiracy" angle is all you care about. The issue isn't that me or anyone else has TDS, it's that you have CDS. Conspiracy Derangement.[/QUOTE]
Is it not a conspiracy? One that you've put Trump at the center of.... ignoring all other aspects and primarily focused on the idea of Trump in bed with minors.
Completely disregarding the possibility that Trump was gaining leverage on other elites with pedophilia fetishes.
As I've pointed out previously.... He did this with his casino in Atlantic City. He has known reputation for it.
Trump is in the business of collecting dirt... not in the business of raping children himself.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15021104]Is it not a conspiracy? One that you've put Trump at the center of.... ignoring all other aspects and primarily focused on the idea of Trump in bed with minors.
Completely disregarding the possibility that Trump was gaining leverage on other elites with pedophilia fetishes.
As I've pointed out previously.... He did this with his casino in Atlantic City. He has known reputation for it.
Trump is in the business of collecting dirt... [B]not in the business of raping children himself[/B].[/QUOTE]
There it is. Finally.
You think Trump is innocent.
I mean, it is more than CDS with you. You're also not-so-secretly MAGA.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021099]The Epstein client list?
Epstein was jailed under Trump, and he also died under Trump. Trump killed him. Because he raped a girl.[/QUOTE]
Why didn't Joe Biden release the files?
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15021109]Why didn't Joe Biden release the files?[/QUOTE]
IDK, maybe cause Clinton on there. Maybe because they were not in his control. Maybe they didn't care to. Trump is the one that has to appease his conspiracy crowd following with Epstein and JFK and MLK and everything else. That is why he focused on that and promised their release. The Biden admin never put focused on any those things. No POTUS has until Trump.
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;15021109]Why didn't Joe Biden release the files?[/QUOTE]
^^ another pdf file apologist
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021107]There it is. Finally.
You think Trump is innocent.
I mean, it is more than CDS with you. You're also not-so-secretly MAGA.[/QUOTE]
I don't think Trump has that kind of dirt on him.... he's the one collecting dirt.
you have it in your mind that Trump went to the island like it was Diddy party and got lubed up with a bunch young girls.
It's the opposite... he has dirt on people that got involved with minors... and has leverage on them... thus obtaining the power he has.
Does Israel have dirt on Trump? 100%.... but I don't think it's child porn.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15021114]I don't think Trump has that kind of dirt on him.... he's the one collecting dirt.
you have it in your mind that Trump went to the island like it was Diddy party and got lubed up with a bunch young girls.
It's the opposite... he has dirt on people that got involved with minors... and has leverage on them... thus obtaining the power he has.
Does Israel have dirt on Trump? 100%.... but I don't think it's child porn.[/QUOTE]
Ah, Trump being besties with Epstein was 4D chess because he knew that many years later he would become POTUS and the dirt would be useful in his 2nd term.
Makes sense. Trump is so smart.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15020620]Earlier I said it is no longer a question of if Trump did anything, it is now a question of weather or not his base cares. And most of them do not care. They know Trump f@#ked a child, but they will still defend him to the death.
Pam Bondi originally said the entire reason it's all been taking so long is because there is a ton of video footage, and a lot of it is very graphic. And they don't want to throw stuff out that could damage the lives of the young women that were more or less sex slaves. And with that said, they probably came across video footage of Trump.
SEEING is a really huge difference for most. If George Floyds death wasn't on video, the riots don't happen. And if they released Trump having sex with a minor? That would be the straw that finally breaks the camel's back for most.[/QUOTE]
If you want people to believe your conspiracy theory, you need to explain some of the holes that doesn't make sense.
You claim Trump slept or raped a child on the island and that Epstein filmed it. So this happened between 1998 and 2005ish and Epstein has sat on the recording for at least 20 years. While no one who sued Epstein has claimed Trump was ever on Epstein island, he isn't in the flight logs, Epstein himself has never claimed Trump to ever be on the island either, but assuming what you say is true or it happened somewhere else, what was his motivation for filming Trump doing this? He didn't use it to prevent being arrested when Trump was president last time, so what do you think he used it for? They weren't friendly any longer and hadn't been so for 10 years when Trump first ran for President.
But OK, he doesn't use this video to prevent being arrested, but there's a copy of it and it's taken possession of by the FBI where it never leaks, it's not deleted in 2019 either because we know Bondi is looking at it 2025.
A big question: If Merrick Garland and Joe Biden has had access to this footage between 2020-2024, why and how was Trump allowed to run for and become President again? How is the footage of him having sex with a child not used to prevent that from happening in one way or another?
So now, Pam Bondi has the most powerful piece of video in the world, which she told Elon about some weeks ago but she's just deleting it. Or do you assume she has other video as well, so now Trump has gotten the one video of him and now he holds video of a bunch of other important people that he can use to blackmail?
Here's the difference.
If Clinton's name is on that list, his base would reject him.
If Trump's name is on that list, the MAGAS would reject the findings.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15021117]If you want people to believe your conspiracy theory, you need to explain some of the holes that doesn't make sense.
You claim Trump slept or raped a child on the island and that Epstein filmed it. So this happened between 1998 and 2005ish and Epstein has sat on the recording for at least 20 years. While no one who sued Epstein has claimed Trump was ever on Epstein island, he isn't in the flight logs, Epstein himself has never claimed Trump to ever be on the island either, but assuming what you say is true or it happened somewhere else, what was his motivation for filming Trump doing this? He didn't use it to prevent being arrested when Trump was president last time, so what do you think he used it for? They weren't friendly any longer and hadn't been so for 10 years when Trump first ran for President.
But OK, he doesn't use this video to prevent being arrested, but there's a copy of it and it's taken possession of by the FBI where it never leaks, it's not deleted in 2019 either because we know Bondi is looking at it 2025.
A big question: If Merrick Garland and Joe Biden has had access to this footage between 2020-2024, why and how was Trump allowed to run for and become President again? How is the footage of him having sex with a child not used to prevent that from happening in one way or another?
So now, Pam Bondi has the most powerful piece of video in the world, which she told Elon about some weeks ago but she's just deleting it. Or do you assume she has other video as well, so now Trump has gotten the one video of him and now he holds video of a bunch of other important people that he can use to blackmail?[/QUOTE]
We know Epstein provided the FBI with evidence in 2008 as part of a plea deal or something else. Could be that was the one time he used his get of jail free card and Trump was in there.
The Biden thing, again maybe he was protecting Bill Clinton, maybe someone else. Maybe they were not in control. I mean clearly the Trump Admin wasn't in control until recent.
I do not think that any admin has the authority to just delete stuff. The FBI or CIA would step in. I don't think that Pam and Trump could just throw out a fake list for that reason either. Way too many involved for that, or to keep something like that under the wraps. If not? Trump would have already provided us all with a fake Epstein list.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021110]IDK, maybe cause Clinton on there. Maybe because they were not in his control. Maybe they didn't care to. Trump is the one that has to appease his conspiracy crowd following with Epstein and JFK and MLK and everything else. That is why he focused on that and promised their release. The Biden admin never put focused on any those things. No POTUS has until Trump.[/QUOTE]
If Trump was on that list and Christopher Wray had it in his hands, you know damn well they would have used it to bury Trump.
But they didn't.
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15021114]I don't think Trump has that kind of dirt on him.... he's the one collecting dirt.
you have it in your mind that Trump went to the island like it was Diddy party and got lubed up with a bunch young girls.
It's the opposite... he has dirt on people that got involved with minors... and has leverage on them... thus obtaining the power he has.
Does Israel have dirt on Trump? 100%.... but I don't think it's child porn.[/QUOTE]
so what you're saying is you have schizophrenia?
[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;15021118]Here's the difference.
If Clinton's name is on that list, his base would reject him.
If Trump's name is on that list, the MAGAS would reject the findings.[/QUOTE]
We can prove this is a lie because the Epstein speculation has been going on for 6 years yet you guys only took interest in this stuff 15 minutes ago.
You're only interested now because it appears Trump is also in on the coverup, but before that you guys were perfectly willing to let it all slide.
You're not fooling anyone.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021119]We know Epstein provided the FBI with evidence in 2008 as part of a plea deal or something else. Could be that was the one time he used his get of jail free card and Trump was in there.
The Biden thing, again maybe he was protecting Bill Clinton, maybe someone else. Maybe they were not in control. I mean clearly the Trump Admin wasn't in control until recent.
I do not think that any admin has the authority to just delete stuff. The FBI or CIA would step in. I don't think that Pam and Trump could just throw out a fake list for that reason either. Way too many involved for that, or to keep something like that under the wraps. If not? Trump would have already provided us all with a fake Epstein list.[/QUOTE]
Obviously Biden and the democrats were all in on the coverup and went out of their way to sweep it under the rug, the same as Trump is doing right now. Yet when the dems were the ones covering it up, you didn't mind.
Don't say "Biden isn't the president" because he WAS the president for 4 years and you said nothing. The only thing that's changed is that now you smell blood and you have a chance to throw Trump under the bus too.
So don't act like you're acting out of some superior moral principle. As usual it always boils down to your chronic TDS.
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doomsdaydallas: clearly trump was just visiting epstein island to find out if the rumors were true, he did not engage in any activities.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021119]We know Epstein provided the FBI with evidence in 2008 as part of a plea deal or something else. Could be that was the one time he used his get of jail free card and Trump was in there.
The Biden thing, again maybe he was protecting Bill Clinton, maybe someone else. Maybe they were not in control. I mean clearly the Trump Admin wasn't in control until recent.
I do not think that any admin has the authority to just delete stuff. The FBI or CIA would step in. I don't think that Pam and Trump could just throw out a fake list for that reason either. Way too many involved for that, or to keep something like that under the wraps. If not? Trump would have already provided us all with a fake Epstein list.[/QUOTE]
So when Trump ran for President in 2016, Obama had already had access to video of him raping a child for 8 years, but didn't figure to use it to blackmail Trump not to run? And Obama didn't want to put Trump in jail for it either, because there's video of Clinton doing the same and too many people knew about it all happening.
And then it's been sitting on a HD in a box at some FBI office for 17 years until it's collected for Pam Bondi who tells Elon Musk about the video.
No, it doesn't sound likely at all.
HIGHwhey getting fooled by obviously fake internet photos is definitely on brand for him.
[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15021128]So when Trump ran for President in 2016, Obama had already had access to video of him raping a child for 8 years, but didn't figure to use it to blackmail Trump not to run? And Obama didn't want to put Trump in jail for it either, because there's video of Clinton doing the same and too many people knew about it all happening.
And then it's been sitting on a HD in a box at some FBI office for 17 years until it's collected for Pam Bondi who tells Elon Musk about the video.
No, it doesn't sound likely at all.[/QUOTE]
I think Trump is listed as a client, and Bannon. I think Elon saw the list of clients and the notables. He has knowledge of it.
YOU are the one who posted Pam saying "there are tens of thousands of videos" and while obviously that could only be an exaggeration, I don't doubt there are probably "lots" of videos. Probably Hundreds, maybe like 1,000.
And I highly doubt that Pam or Elon actually watched any of that. In fact it is possible no one has. It is possible Epstein handed over a list, and all the footage, and the FBI and said "here is all the video, and the names of the people in the videos" and that was that.
I don't think Obama or Biden or any Admin has direct knowledge of it. It's not like when a POTUS is elected the FBI approaches them with every single thing that have. I think that the Trump admin approached THEM about it, and forced access, which is something the other admins didn't care to do.
I'll say this too, if Elon Musk is in fact spreading fake news? Lying to the population? Defamation of the POTUS? He needs to be thrown in prison.
To do that after all his free speech talk? After all he has said about MSM being harmful? And then to go and do the same thing only 100x worse? I mean CNN has never come out and said "Trump IS FOR FACT on the Epstein list".
He would be showing all of us exactly why the internet needs moderation.
[QUOTE=Off the Court;15021119]We know Epstein provided the FBI with evidence in 2008 as part of a plea deal or something else. Could be that was the one time he used his get of jail free card and Trump was in there.
The Biden thing, again maybe he was protecting Bill Clinton, maybe someone else. Maybe they were not in control. I mean clearly the Trump Admin wasn't in control until recent.
I do not think that any admin has the authority to just delete stuff. The FBI or CIA would step in. I don't think that Pam and Trump could just throw out a fake list for that reason either. Way too many involved for that, or to keep something like that under the wraps. If not? Trump would have already provided us all with a fake Epstein list.[/QUOTE]
Tinfoil hat level schizophrenic rantings
[QUOTE=highwhey;15021126][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvXpN75W0AA15Pn?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]
doomsdaydallas: clearly trump was just visiting epstein island to find out if the rumors were true, he did not engage in any activities.[/QUOTE]
That's interesting...... but what does this have to do with the fact that you weigh 400lbs?
[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15021140]That's interesting...... but what does this have to do with the fact that you weigh 400lbs?[/QUOTE]
:lol :roll: