The charlie kirk shooter was not immigrant or trans or minority, just a WHITE

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15033464]It's very natural to cut people off in longer debates like this when the person you're debating says something you simply don't believe to be real. He was also debating a lot of leftists who didn't want him at the campuses and would nothing better than to just be allowed their rant on his camera without being challenged on it. In the same way, Charlie was also cut off himself all the time. He allowed it both ways, which is why you don't see all of the videos of him debating ending in bickering about being cut off.

It's also clear that a lot of the radicals he debated were used to overwhelm others through verbal aggressiveness, so in terms of creating a movement, it's very good to have someone like Kirk out in campuses to show that these kids aren't the brightest and to make fun of them when they try to end a debate by claiming the other person to be racists/fascist.[/QUOTE]

The reality is that these sociopolitical debates are futile in a truthbringing sense. One's reality isn't the other's. What's true in the world Charlie Kirk lived in doesn't have to be true for someone having a totally different upbringing, peergroup, etc. So nobody will convince the other that what they say is the truth when it comes to points that aren't evidence based, but as said before, sociopolitical.

So in the end these debates are just a showcase for people who want to show strength by winning arguments against people that can't keep up in a debate for a lack of debating experience. Doesn't matter what affiliation the pro debater has, it's just sn agitationtool aimed at people, who watch the debates. People who are already leaning into the debater's direction are fooled into believing that his points have to be universally true, because some gender studies student couldn't keep up and debunk points that might be true or not.

The moment someone who can keep up that person will be mostly personally attacked by the partizan audience. Doesn't matter which side. It will always be some us and them battle and people are willingly falling for that while in the end it only fills the pockets of just a select few.

[QUOTE=Overdrive;15033643]One's reality isn't the other's. What's true in the world Charlie Kirk lived in doesn't have to be true for someone having a totally different upbringing, peergroup, etc.[/QUOTE]

Nonsense. Truth isn't relative. Experiences are. Don't conflate them.

[QUOTE=Yes or No;15033645]Nonsense. Truth isn't relative. Experiences are. Don't conflate them.[/QUOTE]

The post was long enough to make clear that it's not about general scientfiic truth but what's "true" for one person doesn't have to be "true" for another. For example if person A is gay and B not. Being gay is true for person A but not B. It's a simple logic statement backed by statement logic and boolean math.

[QUOTE=Overdrive;15033648]The post was long enough to make clear that it's not about general scientfiic truth but what's "true" for one person doesn't have to be "true" for another. For example if person A is gay and B not. Being gay is true for person A but not B. It's a simple logic statement backed by statement logic and boolean math.[/QUOTE]

lmao

you are definitely person A

[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;15033638]So sorry that whole "trans roommate who turned the shooter into a liberal" didn't turn out the way you were hoping for.


No reputable outlets like BBC, CNN, and Reuters have not confirmed this. A New York Post (Murdoch) report cites a law enforcement source claiming the suspect lived with a transgender partner, but details remain unverified beyond that. Authorities mentioned a cooperating roommate without specifying gender identity or orientation.

This story can get any traction outside of Murdoch and the right-wing media.

Nice try though.[/QUOTE]

Just wait till it comes out that it's an entire tranny network that planned this in advance that's going to lead to nationwide arrests. lol. Wild times.

[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;15033638]So sorry that whole "trans roommate who turned the shooter into a liberal" didn't turn out the way you were hoping for.


No reputable outlets like BBC, CNN, and Reuters have not confirmed this. A New York Post (Murdoch) report cites a law enforcement source claiming the suspect lived with a transgender partner, but details remain unverified beyond that. Authorities mentioned a cooperating roommate without specifying gender identity or orientation.

This story can get any traction outside of Murdoch and the right-wing media.

Nice try though.[/QUOTE]

The denial is real. :lol

They already interviewed a neighbor and he stated that he would see them holding hands and kissing.

it's clear that the republican mindset at such a young age introduced the idea of violence and guns:

[IMG]https://ktla.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2025/09/tyler-robinson-9.jpg?w=900[/IMG]


MAGAs do not want to confront the truth, but had it not been for being raised in a republican household, he would not likely ever be into guns and as a result, never did what he did.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15033668]The denial is real. :lol

They already interviewed a neighbor and he stated that he would see them holding hands and kissing.[/QUOTE]

OP ruined :oldlol:

[QUOTE=highwhey;15033669]it's clear that the republican mindset at such a young age introduced the idea of violence and guns:

[IMG]https://ktla.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2025/09/tyler-robinson-9.jpg?w=900[/IMG]


MAGAs do not want to confront the truth, but had it not been for being raised in a republican household, he would not likely ever be into guns and as a result, never did what he did.[/QUOTE]

The truth is you were wrong, chico ... just like your boy TheFakkit always is.

[video=youtube;dju8-9zn7GQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dju8-9zn7GQ[/video]

"But CNN is not reporting it, it can't be real"

:roll:

It's now confirmed Tyler and Lance were lovers. However it's also now being reported Tyler's family was encouraging him to break up with Lance Twiggs because of his vehement hostility towards people on the right. Obviously the more extreme right is going to think Lance radicalized Tyler, and some may even think he pushed Tyler toward killing Kirk.

Lance Twiggs life is in serious danger right now. No joke. I'm assuming he's asking authorities to protect him because you can bet there's lynch mobs getting started up all over the country

A lot of MAGA have trans fetishes.

[IMG]https://b807849.smushcdn.com/807849/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Screenshot-2022-06-23-000541-1024x652-1.jpg?lossy=1&strip=1&webp=1[/IMG]

The fact that he was fvcking one doesn't mean anything.

[QUOTE=crosstin;15033675]It's now confirmed Tyler and Lance were lovers. However it's also now being reported Tyler's family was encouraging him to break up with Lance Twiggs because of his vehement hostility towards people on the right. [B]Obviously the more extreme right is going to think Lance radicalized Tyler, and some may even think he pushed Tyler toward killing Kirk.[/B]

Lance Twiggs life is in serious danger right now. No joke. I'm assuming he's asking authorities to protect him because you can bet there's lynch mobs getting started up all over the country[/QUOTE]

I don't think you need to be "extreme right" much less right to have that opinion. Or at least think its plausible. According to family members of the shooters boyfriend, he became 'extremely hateful', political and anti-conservative. Other reports are they intentionally avoided him for YEARS.

The shooter wasnt "MAGA". CNN literally just interviewed Utah's Governor who literally claims the shooter was indoctrinated by the 'far left'. And also confirmed he lived with his transgender partner.

[video=youtube;yUTUj62ywi4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUTUj62ywi4[/video]

[video=youtube;18FNK6ZNGuo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18FNK6ZNGuo[/video]

[video=youtube;BXRvwgP7rZk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRvwgP7rZk[/video]

I think they will arrest the tranny freak as well his other freak and loser friends who knew what he was going to do.

I think RRR3 should be arrested as well. Just in case.

[QUOTE=j3lademaster;15033676]A lot of MAGA have trans fetishes.

[IMG]https://b807849.smushcdn.com/807849/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Screenshot-2022-06-23-000541-1024x652-1.jpg?lossy=1&strip=1&webp=1[/IMG]

The fact that he was fvcking one doesn't mean anything.[/QUOTE]

anyone?

[QUOTE=Tavr;15033678]The shooter wasnt "MAGA". CNN literally just interviewed Utah's Governor who literally claims the shooter was indoctrinated by the 'far left'. And also confirmed he lived with his transgender partner.[/QUOTE]

They know.

[QUOTE=j3lademaster;15033676]A lot of MAGA have trans fetishes.

[IMG]https://b807849.smushcdn.com/807849/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Screenshot-2022-06-23-000541-1024x652-1.jpg?lossy=1&strip=1&webp=1[/IMG]

The fact that he was fvcking one doesn't mean anything.[/QUOTE]

to add further to this map, here is an image of our republican Vice President:

[IMG]https://d2pe3g8unpp9ma.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/13150823/Untitled-design-6.png[/IMG]

[video=youtube;Miw5Vi1aVhM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Miw5Vi1aVhM[/video]

The democrats have now pivoted to:

"If it looks like a duck, walks like duck, acts like a duck... believe me it's definitely not a duck"

:oldlol:

[QUOTE=Baller234;15033766]The democrats have now pivoted to:

"If it looks like a duck, walks like duck, acts like a duck... believe me it's definitely not a duck"

:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

The dishonesty is unreal.

OP and lots of liberals in this thread took the L, just own up to it or just stop responding. No need to keep posting pretending like you were not wrong.

Bawler: It was a liberal transgender.

Warriorsfan: Civil War Baby!

jstern: Oh look it wasn't a liberal transgender but maybe we can still fake it.

Doomsday Dallas: Oh God, why are he liberals always right.

Patrick "Poopsie" Chewing: Well I guess we will have to go back to defending pedophiles.

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G02gEwWXEAAnwKu?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG]

So here's what the MAGAS are trying to get you to believe.

Utah Valley University is rated one of the most conservative universities in 'Murica,

In one of the whitest cities in one of the reddest Red State's.

But somehow MAGA is telling us this kid was radicalized by the left on campus?

The mental gymnastics the cult are doing is quite impressive.

[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;15033835]So here's what the MAGAS are trying to get you to believe.

Utah Valley University is rated one of the most conservative universities in 'Murica,

In one of the whitest cities in one of the reddest Red State's.

[B]But somehow MAGA is telling us this kid was radicalized by the left on campus?[/B]

The mental gymnastics the cult are doing is quite impressive.[/QUOTE]

No they're not cause he wasn't a student, ya stupid ass.... try to keep up, eliteballer.

The left from:

"Hahaha Charlie Kirk got shot..."

to

"Okay fine violence is never the answer but look he was WHITE, probably one of yours!..."

to

Okay fine he was banging a gay tranny dude and thought Kirk was an evil nazi, so what? That could describe ANYONE!..."

:oldlol:

It's only been a few days. So much more is going to come out. I'm already seeing evidence that it was a coordinated group effort. They're investing Instagram accounts, X accounts, Bluesky accounts, Discord, Reddit... apparently there were multiple people who had knowledge of this. A localized terrorist cell made up of trannies, furries and far left weirdos with pronouns.

This trial is going to wake up a lot of americans.

I support the second and first amendments.

I don’t support fools who spout statist bullshit like Charlie Kirk did!!!!!

But we also reserve our rights to take out statist clowns. Spewing bullshit,

Signed by any right, left, AMERICAN out there.

[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15033838]No they're not cause he wasn't a student, ya stupid ass.... try to keep up, eliteballer.[/QUOTE]

He was there for one semester.

Based on this you side claiming he was somehow radicalized.

Latest Breaking News From The Right Wing Media:

Kirk shooter may have at one time had an uber driver who was trans.

[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15033838]No they're not cause he wasn't a student, ya stupid ass.... try to keep up, eliteballer.[/QUOTE]

:roll:

[QUOTE=Baller234;15033842]It's only been a few days. So much more is going to come out. I'm already seeing evidence that it was a coordinated group effort. They're investing Instagram accounts, X accounts, Bluesky accounts, Discord, Reddit... apparently there were multiple people who had knowledge of this. A localized terrorist cell made up of trannies, furries and far left weirdos with pronouns.

This trial is going to wake up a lot of americans.[/QUOTE]

There were a few tranny accounts on X predicting this would happen on the exact day. They were involved.

[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;15033773]Bawler: It was a liberal transgender.

Warriorsfan: Civil War Baby!

jstern: Oh look it wasn't a liberal transgender but maybe we can still fake it.

Doomsday Dallas: Oh God, why are he liberals always right.

Patrick "Poopsie" Chewing: Well I guess we will have to go back to defending pedophiles.[/QUOTE]

:yaohappy:

[QUOTE=Baller234;15033842]The left from:

"Hahaha Charlie Kirk got shot..."

to

"Okay fine violence is never the answer but look he was WHITE, probably one of yours!..."

to

Okay fine he was banging a gay tranny dude and thought Kirk was an evil nazi, so what? That could describe ANYONE!..."

:oldlol:[/QUOTE]

:yaohappy:

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15033852]:yaohappy:[/QUOTE]

Dude you cried and posted about your first acquaintance getting shot.

Lmao

This is America homie.

Imagine being as snowflake as you.

[video=youtube;70kNprNd7uU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70kNprNd7uU[/video]

i heard shooter tried to join white supremist group led by trump ??

true ??

[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;15033846]Latest Breaking News From The Right Wing Media:

Kirk shooter may have at one time had an uber driver who was trans.[/QUOTE]

dam that's funny megas

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15033849]There were a few tranny accounts on X predicting this would happen on the exact day. They were involved.[/QUOTE]

Arrest them all. Then give them the same death penalty.