The charlie kirk shooter was not immigrant or trans or minority, just a WHITE

[QUOTE=ZenMaster;15033464]It's very natural to cut people off in longer debates like this when the person you're debating says something you simply don't believe to be real. He was also debating a lot of leftists who didn't want him at the campuses and would nothing better than to just be allowed their rant on his camera without being challenged on it. In the same way, Charlie was also cut off himself all the time. He allowed it both ways, which is why you don't see all of the videos of him debating ending in bickering about being cut off.

It's also clear that a lot of the radicals he debated were used to overwhelm others through verbal aggressiveness, so in terms of creating a movement, it's very good to have someone like Kirk out in campuses to show that these kids aren't the brightest and to make fun of them when they try to end a debate by claiming the other person to be racists/fascist.[/QUOTE]

The reality is that these sociopolitical debates are futile in a truthbringing sense. One's reality isn't the other's. What's true in the world Charlie Kirk lived in doesn't have to be true for someone having a totally different upbringing, peergroup, etc. So nobody will convince the other that what they say is the truth when it comes to points that aren't evidence based, but as said before, sociopolitical.

So in the end these debates are just a showcase for people who want to show strength by winning arguments against people that can't keep up in a debate for a lack of debating experience. Doesn't matter what affiliation the pro debater has, it's just sn agitationtool aimed at people, who watch the debates. People who are already leaning into the debater's direction are fooled into believing that his points have to be universally true, because some gender studies student couldn't keep up and debunk points that might be true or not.

The moment someone who can keep up that person will be mostly personally attacked by the partizan audience. Doesn't matter which side. It will always be some us and them battle and people are willingly falling for that while in the end it only fills the pockets of just a select few.

[QUOTE=Overdrive;15033643]One's reality isn't the other's. What's true in the world Charlie Kirk lived in doesn't have to be true for someone having a totally different upbringing, peergroup, etc.[/QUOTE]

Nonsense. Truth isn't relative. Experiences are. Don't conflate them.

[QUOTE=Yes or No;15033645]Nonsense. Truth isn't relative. Experiences are. Don't conflate them.[/QUOTE]

The post was long enough to make clear that it's not about general scientfiic truth but what's "true" for one person doesn't have to be "true" for another. For example if person A is gay and B not. Being gay is true for person A but not B. It's a simple logic statement backed by statement logic and boolean math.

[QUOTE=Overdrive;15033648]The post was long enough to make clear that it's not about general scientfiic truth but what's "true" for one person doesn't have to be "true" for another. For example if person A is gay and B not. Being gay is true for person A but not B. It's a simple logic statement backed by statement logic and boolean math.[/QUOTE]

lmao

you are definitely person A

[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;15033638]So sorry that whole "trans roommate who turned the shooter into a liberal" didn't turn out the way you were hoping for.


No reputable outlets like BBC, CNN, and Reuters have not confirmed this. A New York Post (Murdoch) report cites a law enforcement source claiming the suspect lived with a transgender partner, but details remain unverified beyond that. Authorities mentioned a cooperating roommate without specifying gender identity or orientation.

This story can get any traction outside of Murdoch and the right-wing media.

Nice try though.[/QUOTE]

Just wait till it comes out that it's an entire tranny network that planned this in advance that's going to lead to nationwide arrests. lol. Wild times.

[QUOTE=Lakers Legend#32;15033638]So sorry that whole "trans roommate who turned the shooter into a liberal" didn't turn out the way you were hoping for.


No reputable outlets like BBC, CNN, and Reuters have not confirmed this. A New York Post (Murdoch) report cites a law enforcement source claiming the suspect lived with a transgender partner, but details remain unverified beyond that. Authorities mentioned a cooperating roommate without specifying gender identity or orientation.

This story can get any traction outside of Murdoch and the right-wing media.

Nice try though.[/QUOTE]

The denial is real. :lol

They already interviewed a neighbor and he stated that he would see them holding hands and kissing.

it's clear that the republican mindset at such a young age introduced the idea of violence and guns:

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MAGAs do not want to confront the truth, but had it not been for being raised in a republican household, he would not likely ever be into guns and as a result, never did what he did.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15033668]The denial is real. :lol

They already interviewed a neighbor and he stated that he would see them holding hands and kissing.[/QUOTE]

OP ruined :oldlol:

[QUOTE=highwhey;15033669]it's clear that the republican mindset at such a young age introduced the idea of violence and guns:

[IMG]https://ktla.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2025/09/tyler-robinson-9.jpg?w=900[/IMG]


MAGAs do not want to confront the truth, but had it not been for being raised in a republican household, he would not likely ever be into guns and as a result, never did what he did.[/QUOTE]

The truth is you were wrong, chico ... just like your boy TheFakkit always is.

[video=youtube;dju8-9zn7GQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dju8-9zn7GQ[/video]

"But CNN is not reporting it, it can't be real"

:roll:

It's now confirmed Tyler and Lance were lovers. However it's also now being reported Tyler's family was encouraging him to break up with Lance Twiggs because of his vehement hostility towards people on the right. Obviously the more extreme right is going to think Lance radicalized Tyler, and some may even think he pushed Tyler toward killing Kirk.

Lance Twiggs life is in serious danger right now. No joke. I'm assuming he's asking authorities to protect him because you can bet there's lynch mobs getting started up all over the country

A lot of MAGA have trans fetishes.

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The fact that he was fvcking one doesn't mean anything.

[QUOTE=crosstin;15033675]It's now confirmed Tyler and Lance were lovers. However it's also now being reported Tyler's family was encouraging him to break up with Lance Twiggs because of his vehement hostility towards people on the right. [B]Obviously the more extreme right is going to think Lance radicalized Tyler, and some may even think he pushed Tyler toward killing Kirk.[/B]

Lance Twiggs life is in serious danger right now. No joke. I'm assuming he's asking authorities to protect him because you can bet there's lynch mobs getting started up all over the country[/QUOTE]

I don't think you need to be "extreme right" much less right to have that opinion. Or at least think its plausible. According to family members of the shooters boyfriend, he became 'extremely hateful', political and anti-conservative. Other reports are they intentionally avoided him for YEARS.

The shooter wasnt "MAGA". CNN literally just interviewed Utah's Governor who literally claims the shooter was indoctrinated by the 'far left'. And also confirmed he lived with his transgender partner.

[video=youtube;yUTUj62ywi4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUTUj62ywi4[/video]

[video=youtube;18FNK6ZNGuo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18FNK6ZNGuo[/video]

[video=youtube;BXRvwgP7rZk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRvwgP7rZk[/video]