Wilt Chamberlain: 24 Inch Vertical

Reading through this old thread, and the posters maintaining that Wilt was only in the 24-32" vertical range turned out to be wrong.

Somewhere between the Wilt skeptics and the legends is the truth about what Wilt could do physically. I put his vertical at minimum 36", and it's quite reasonable to think he could actually have reached the top of the backboard. So as high as 42".

Interesting to note that the anti-Wilt stans no longer debate his athleticism. No they primarily focus on weak era, slow white guys, and perceived lack of skill (moves in the post relative to modern players).

[QUOTE=Marchesk]Reading through this old thread, and the posters maintaining that Wilt was only in the 24-32" vertical range turned out to be wrong.

Somewhere between the Wilt skeptics and the legends is the truth about what Wilt could do physically. I put his vertical at minimum 36", and it's quite reasonable to think he could actually have reached the top of the backboard. So as high as 42".

Interesting to note that the anti-Wilt stans no longer debate his athleticism. No they primarily focus on weak era, slow white guys, and perceived lack of skill (moves in the post relative to modern players).[/QUOTE]
This is what a 42" vertical means for Wilt

Wilt- 7'1" = 85"

+ 42" vertical

85" + 42" = 126"

126" = 10'6", meaning he could his head half a foot above the rim. Yet we have zero images of Wilt's head near the rim, let alone above it.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]This is what a 42" vertical means for Wilt

Wilt- 7'1" = 85"

+ 42" vertical

85" + 42" = 126"

126" = 10'6", meaning he could his head half a foot above the rim. Yet we have zero images of Wilt's head near the rim, let alone above it.[/QUOTE]

From the SF college game video where he goes way up to block a shot, I screen printed it, and then drew a straight line from the rim that bisected his left shoulder and part of his head, which was titled away from the rim, since he was reaching with his left arm to block the shot. I put the tip of his fingers between 12'4" to 12'8", so about 12'6". And he comes down with the ball.

So that's not true. There are a couple photos were his head is right around the rim level. There is a video from the behind the backboard where he is easily blocking a shot where the top of the ball is around 12'4".

Anyway, 10'6" means that six inches of his head is above the rim, not that his entire head is six inches above the rim.

You cant use "Where is the footage" for a guy who peaked as an athlete late 50s early 60s. Might as well deny the era even happened if you only accept what is proven. We have zero footage of a Wilt 40 point game but he had like 300 and dozens were recorded.

You take that as evidence they didnt happen?

Jumping 40 inches for a college highjump champ is not shocking. Not in 1956 or 2006. It really isnt special. Its not even that unusual for bigmen. I mean...its unusual in that not many can do it. Its not unusual to an extent that its absurd to question. Ive seen Dan Gadzuric get headlevel off like 2 steps on a putback dunk over Kenyon Martin. Antionio Mcdyess had a 42 inch one step vertical according to the NBA and harder to believe(but NBA claimed from a combine test) 47 inch vertical on the run.

Larry Nance, Shawn Kemp, Dwight, Blake, Tyrus thomas, and so on....

Bigmen can get up there. Especially ones built like young Wilt. Lakers Wilt was getting up like few today. When he was kinda lanky? I can see him flying.

Wilt= overrated feasting on a primarily white unathletic scrub league.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Yet we have zero images of Wilt's head near the rim, let alone above it.[/QUOTE]

Seems to be at around rim level here, with what looks like relative ease. Given how long his arms are, there was probably no reason for him to jump to his peak potential. He's not a 6'1 guard that needs to get as much air as possible. Look at his arms, any higher and he would overshoot the basket on shots and dunks.

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[QUOTE=Poetry]Seems to be at around rim level here, with what looks like relative ease. Given how long his arms are, there was probably no reason for him to jump to his peak potential. He's not a 6'1 guard that needs to get as much air as possible. Look at his arms, any higher and he would overshoot the basket on shots and dunks.

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Yeah and that #5 defender is almost at net level while being 3 inches off the ground, he must be like 8'3"...

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]Yeah and that #5 defender is almost at net level while being 3 inches off the ground, he must be like 8'3"...[/QUOTE]
Still salty Wilt is 10x better than Brickbe I see

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[QUOTE=RRR3]Still salty Wilt is 10x better than Brickbe I see[/QUOTE]
5>2

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Damn that's a long arm lol. What was his wingspan?

[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]Damn that's a long arm lol. What was his wingspan?[/QUOTE]
7 feet 8 inches

Wilt as a High Schooler:

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[QUOTE=Psileas]Wilt as a High Schooler:

[IMG]http://www.corbisimages.com/images/Corbis-U1241523.jpg?size=67&uid=4cb4dd6c-398e-4321-a015-75c1b72cbddd[/IMG][/QUOTE]

That looks like 24" vertical, extend his legs and it's nothing special.

[QUOTE=-23-]That looks like 24" vertical, extend his legs and it's nothing special.[/QUOTE]

Dude, can't you tell that's a 12 foot rim? :lol

Couldn't help myself, sorry Wilt stans.

If I had a time machine, I'd go back to Wilt's college days, and record him dunking at that 12 foot rim and then come back and upload that shit to youtube, and then tell all the anti-Wilts to bite me.

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]This is what a 42" vertical means for Wilt

Wilt- 7'1" = 85"

+ 42" vertical

85" + 42" = 126"

126" = 10'6", meaning he could his head half a foot above the rim. Yet we have zero images of Wilt's head near the rim, let alone above it.[/QUOTE]

Duece Bigalow = General Custer at Little Bighorn.

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[QUOTE=Lebron23]Overrated[/QUOTE]
YES.............LEBRON JAMES IS OVERRATED :rockon:

:oldlol: at idiots looking at his feet instead of his head. Last time I checked, Wilt wasn't ever 8 feet tall, so jumping 24 inches high wouldn't bring his head anywhere near that level.

[QUOTE=secund2nun]Wilt= overrated feasting on a primarily white unathletic scrub league.[/QUOTE]

no one is more overrated than leflop James,who is invisible 6 of 7 games in 2013 Finals :roll:

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]5>2[/QUOTE]


NO............
KOBE ONLY WINS 2 RINGS BY HIMSELF :banana:

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]You cant use "Where is the footage" for a guy who peaked as an athlete late 50s early 60s. Might as well deny the era even happened if you only accept what is proven. We have zero footage of a Wilt 40 point game but he had like 300 and dozens were recorded.

You take that as evidence they didnt happen?

Jumping 40 inches for a college highjump champ is not shocking. Not in 1956 or 2006. It really isnt special. Its not even that unusual for bigmen. I mean...its unusual in that not many can do it. Its not unusual to an extent that its absurd to question. Ive seen Dan Gadzuric get headlevel off like 2 steps on a putback dunk over Kenyon Martin. Antionio Mcdyess had a 42 inch one step vertical according to the NBA and harder to believe(but NBA claimed from a combine test) 47 inch vertical on the run.

Larry Nance, Shawn Kemp, Dwight, Blake, Tyrus thomas, and so on....

Bigmen can get up there. Especially ones built like young Wilt. Lakers Wilt was getting up like few today. When he was kinda lanky? I can see him flying.[/QUOTE]

This.

And I would like to add...in the very limited footage that we do have, Chamberlain IS blocking shots and dunking. But, I guess he should have been aware that ESPN would show highlights nightly some 30-40 years later, and touched the top of the backboard before depositing the ball in the basket, or blocked those shots with his head and chest instead of easily blocking them with his 7-8 wingspan.

I still get a kick out of one Chamberlain-basher that used to routinely post here, who had footage of Wilt running down a shooter from behind, and blocking the shot...and in it, Wilt is only a couple of feet off the ground. Of course, he failed to mention the obvious...that Wilt blocked the shot with his arm extended parallel to the ground. Had Chamberlain leaped as high as he could, he likely would have watched the shot go under his armpit and into the basket.

God ISH used to be retarded when it came to Wilt

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62dMFki2pts[/url]

[QUOTE=Psileas]:oldlol: at idiots looking at his feet instead of his head. Last time I checked, Wilt wasn't ever 8 feet tall, so jumping 24 inches high wouldn't bring his head anywhere near that level.[/QUOTE]

His head looks to be rim level there.

[QUOTE=Bobe Kryant]

[B][url]http://www.sportingnews.com/archives/wilt/article3.html[/url]
[/B]
Certainly doesn't sound like the athletic freak we've heard so much about. He also had only a 7'2 wingspan which is pretty surprising. And 225lbs is just embarassing. Shaq weighed something like 310lbs at the same age with 10x the athleticism.

For comparison, Shaq had a 7'7 wingspan and 36 vertical.[/QUOTE]
what am i missing here - the link just goees to the sporting news homepage - i don't see any article on wilt.

[QUOTE=3ball]what am i missing here - the link just goees to the sporting news homepage - i don't see any article on wilt.[/QUOTE]
It's been taken down. But there used to be an article written in the 1950's about Wilt when he was in high school that stated he could "jump 24" straight up" and this was used by Wilt's detractors here as evidence that Wilt, one of the greatest athletes that ever existed, had a "max-vert" of only 24 inches high (4 inches less than Larry Bird).

Also in the article was a highly questionable indication of Wilt's armspan, it cited it as "7 feet 2 inches" ... however a few years later both video evidence (his armspan actually being measured on film) and articles comparing his armspan to Kareem Abdul-Jabbars surfaced that proved in reality it was 92 inches, or 7 feet 8 inches. Also it cited his weight at 225lbs... even though this was his high school weight, it didn't matter, all of this was used as evidence against testimony of his strength size and athleticism which was all deemed by ISH's band of Wilt detractors to be nothing but a myth not to be taken seriously.

In hindsight, this shit is funny as hell to read, but at the time it was frustrating because not much video or evidence to suggest otherwise existed.

Serious question. Does anybody on here think Wilt could hit (touch) his head on the bottom of a 10 foot rim? From everything I've seen....it seems questionable at best. If he could that's a 34 inch vert (if he's 7'2 with his shoes on).

[QUOTE=sundizz]Serious question. Does anybody on here think Wilt could hit (touch) his head on the bottom of a 10 foot rim? From everything I've seen....it seems questionable at best. If he could that's a 34 inch vert (if he's 7'2 with his shoes on).[/QUOTE]
1. Yes, quite easily. Though why would he want his head to hit the ring? He's not going to be trying to get his head near it, so given that only 2% of his career field goals exists on film, and even less of his overall career, opportunities to see his head at maximum height near the rim are going to be slim to none. Only a few pics and clips exist of him jumping high in close vicinity of the ring, but nevertheless they definitely exist and don't really leave room for reasonable doubt.

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2. Not that this has to do with your overall point you are trying to make, but Converse All Star shoes are not 1 inch thick, those type of basketball shoes back then were wafer thin compared to modern shoes. They were probably more like a half inch thick.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]1. Yes, quite easily. Though why would he want his head to hit the ring? He's not going to be trying to get his head near it, so given that only 2% of his career field goals exists on film, and even less of his overall career, opportunities to see his head at maximum height near the rim are going to be slim to none. Only a few pics and clips exist of him jumping high in close vicinity of the ring, but nevertheless they definitely exist and don't really leave room for reasonable doubt.

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2. Not that this has to do with your overall point you are trying to make, but Converse All Star shoes are not 1 inch thick, those type of basketball shoes back then were wafer thin compared to modern shoes. They were probably more like a half inch thick.[/QUOTE]

I love the headlines on that.

[QUOTE=DatAsh]I love the headlines on that.[/QUOTE]
ISH headline worthy :lol

Wilt is a legend.


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[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]1. Yes, quite easily. Though why would he want his head to hit the ring? He's not going to be trying to get his head near it, so given that only 2% of his career field goals exists on film, and even less of his overall career, opportunities to see his head at maximum height near the rim are going to be slim to none. Only a few pics and clips exist of him jumping high in close vicinity of the ring, but nevertheless they definitely exist and don't really leave room for reasonable doubt.

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2. Not that this has to do with your overall point you are trying to make, but Converse All Star shoes are not 1 inch thick, those type of basketball shoes back then were wafer thin compared to modern shoes. They were probably more like a half inch thick.[/QUOTE]


The articles in that old rag were most excellent.

I happen to have a few copies of that magazine; PBH was a welcome change from having Bob Ryan's Unceasing Stream of Celtics Vomit forced down your throat.

Here's some of what the writers at PBH were saying about Chamberlain, not in that copy but [B] in 1968[/B]:

..... "Did he average 50 points in a game for a whole season? Ridiculous. He shot too much and 'loafed' on defense. Did he (after of a couple of years) pay more attention to defense? See, he wasn't scoring the way he should. Did he play every minute of every game? Silly and selfish, because he'd be more effective with a rest once in a while. Did he take (and make) fadeaway jump shots? Stupid, because he should turn in toward the basket. Did he go to the basket? Then his field goal percentage shouldn't count, and besides, he was charging all the time and they wouldn't call it. Did Bill Russell hang back after clearing the defensive board and triggering a fast break? Great for Russell, who was a wizard and a genius. Did Wilt do the same thing (only to have the fast break misfire on the way to the basket)? What a lazy player!
And so it went, for the better part of six years.
The truth of course, was quite different and not all mysterious. It all had to do with personnel.
The Celtics had great teams, balanced and deep and well-rounded.
Chamberlain seldom had comparable material to play with. When he had good teammates, his team gave Boston a good battle and overwhelmed everyone else. When he didn't, defeats were inescapable.
In the first couple of seasons, when Wilt was raising scoring totals beyond anyone's fantasies, he was acting on the orders of his owner, Eddie Gottlieb. His employer wanted him to play every second and to score as much as he could. That was exactly what he did. If it led to an unbalanced type of game, it wasn't Wilt's demand that was being met, but the owner's."
cont.......

continued.........
".........Later when Paul Arizin retired and the team moved to San Francisco, Wilt was surrounded by a weak-shooting cast. In that circumstance, if he didn't do most of the shooting, the team's chances of scoring were reduced. If he (or his coaches) had listened to the criticism then, they would have been going against their own best interests - which was, of course, exactly what the critics on other teams wanted.
........ The big change in him - the thing that has been triggering stories about 'the new Chamberlain' for three years - is his defensive involvement. He has mastered the "Russell-style" defense, which means blocking shots on those who drive in, absolute control of defensive rebounds, a quick pass out to start the fast break, and bruising man-to-man defense against the opposing center.
To some extent, this represents skills gradually acquired with experience. But to a larger extent, it relects altered circumstances. Wilt can now afford to concentrate on the defensive half of the floor, becuase his team has others who can score, and becuase his present employers want him to play this way. While he is not as quick, relexively, as Russell and probably not as cerebral in aanalysis of moves, he is so much stronger and bigger- and quick enough - that he now plays Russell's game more effectively than Russell himself.........."

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Which is 180 degrees out of phase with people who have only read articles from the Celtic fan-base.
The reality was, John Havlicek and Sam Jones were increasingly important to Boston's chances and the whole country knew that.
The reality was, Chamberlain demolished Russell in almost every game from '66 on, and it was there for everybody to see on national tv.
The reality was very different from the fantasy land of Ryan and those guys, and every fan in the country who wasn't a shameless Boston homer knew it at the time.

Which is yet another reason why people who believe that drivel from Bill Simmons should understand that Simmons consciously and deliberately avoided printing anything that supported Chamberlain and focused solely on leading the reader to Russell's side.
And [I]that.[/I] is utterly disgraceful in a writer - especially one as well-known as Simmons.

[QUOTE=La Frescobaldi]continued.........
".........Later when Paul Arizin retired and the team moved to San Francisco, Wilt was surrounded by a weak-shooting cast. In that circumstance, if he didn't do most of the shooting, the team's chances of scoring were reduced. If he (or his coaches) had listened to the criticism then, they would have been going against their own best interests - which was, of course, exactly what the critics on other teams wanted.
........ The big change in him - the thing that has been triggering stories about 'the new Chamberlain' for three years - is his defensive involvement. He has mastered the "Russell-style" defense, which means blocking shots on those who drive in, absolute control of defensive rebounds, a quick pass out to start the fast break, and bruising man-to-man defense against the opposing center.
To some extent, this represents skills gradually acquired with experience. But to a larger extent, it relects altered circumstances. Wilt can now afford to concentrate on the defensive half of the floor, becuase his team has others who can score, and becuase his present employers want him to play this way. While he is not as quick, relexively, as Russell and probably not as cerebral in aanalysis of moves, he is so much stronger and bigger- and quick enough - that he now plays Russell's game more effectively than Russell himself.........."

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Which is 180 degrees out of phase with people who have only read articles from the Celtic fan-base.
The reality was, John Havlicek and Sam Jones were increasingly important to Boston's chances and the whole country knew that.
The reality was, Chamberlain demolished Russell in almost every game from '66 on, and it was there for everybody to see on national tv.
The reality was very different from the fantasy land of Ryan and those guys, and every fan in the country who wasn't a shameless Boston homer knew it at the time.

Which is yet another reason why people who believe that drivel from Bill Simmons should understand that Simmons consciously and deliberately avoided printing anything that supported Chamberlain and focused solely on leading the reader to Russell's side.
And [I]that.[/I] is utterly disgraceful in a writer - especially one as well-known as Simmons.[/QUOTE]

Great additions. And what you mentioned at the end is the reason is why I told some time ago that we consider even the little Wilt vs Russell footage that exists and asked who in people's own eyes outplayed the other.
What exists of Wilt vs Russell is:

1) 1 half from Game 4 of the 1964 Finals
2) 1 half from Game 4 of the 1967 Division Finals
3) The 1969 ASG (the only game that fully exists)
4) 1 quarter from Game 7 of the 1969 Finals

Most admitted that Wilt was usually outplaying Russell in these clips. And yet Russell's teams still won every single one of the games shown, which isn't even a fair proportion compared to reality when Wilt's teams won 2 out of 5 games vs Russell's.

Btw, I wonder, is there any single NBA game of Wilt available now when his team wins, apart from Game 5 of the '72 Finals and the '72 ASG?

[QUOTE=La Frescobaldi]continued.........
".........Later when Paul Arizin retired and the team moved to San Francisco, Wilt was surrounded by a weak-shooting cast. In that circumstance, if he didn't do most of the shooting, the team's chances of scoring were reduced. If he (or his coaches) had listened to the criticism then, they would have been going against their own best interests - which was, of course, exactly what the critics on other teams wanted.
........ The big change in him - the thing that has been triggering stories about 'the new Chamberlain' for three years - is his defensive involvement. He has mastered the "Russell-style" defense, which means blocking shots on those who drive in, absolute control of defensive rebounds, a quick pass out to start the fast break, and bruising man-to-man defense against the opposing center.
To some extent, this represents skills gradually acquired with experience. But to a larger extent, it relects altered circumstances. Wilt can now afford to concentrate on the defensive half of the floor, becuase his team has others who can score, and becuase his present employers want him to play this way. While he is not as quick, relexively, as Russell and probably not as cerebral in aanalysis of moves, he is so much stronger and bigger- and quick enough - that he now plays Russell's game more effectively than Russell himself.........."

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Which is 180 degrees out of phase with people who have only read articles from the Celtic fan-base.
The reality was, John Havlicek and Sam Jones were increasingly important to Boston's chances and the whole country knew that.
The reality was, Chamberlain demolished Russell in almost every game from '66 on, and it was there for everybody to see on national tv.
The reality was very different from the fantasy land of Ryan and those guys, and every fan in the country who wasn't a shameless Boston homer knew it at the time.

Which is yet another reason why people who believe that drivel from Bill Simmons should understand that Simmons consciously and deliberately avoided printing anything that supported Chamberlain and focused solely on leading the reader to Russell's side.
And [I]that.[/I] is utterly disgraceful in a writer - especially one as well-known as Simmons.[/QUOTE]

You should post more of this stuff.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]1. Yes, quite easily. Though why would he want his head to hit the ring? He's not going to be trying to get his head near it, so given that only 2% of his career field goals exists on film, and even less of his overall career, opportunities to see his head at maximum height near the rim are going to be slim to none. Only a few pics and clips exist of him jumping high in close vicinity of the ring, but nevertheless they definitely exist and don't really leave room for reasonable doubt.

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2. Not that this has to do with your overall point you are trying to make, but Converse All Star shoes are not 1 inch thick, those type of basketball shoes back then were wafer thin compared to modern shoes. They were probably more like a half inch thick.[/QUOTE]
Why would anyone in their right mind want to almost accidentally smash their head on that thing when you have a wingspan longer than Yaos and a standing reach that's just a half inch smaller?

[url]http://youtu.be/UAmuvwsDKBk[/url]

Some of the many new clips to be found in the next revision of "Wilt scouting tool".

Something like 10-15 new field goals have been found that will be added (I didn't count yet, but there's a handful of new ones)

I'm going to add about 5 to 6 minutes more footage to the "physical tools and athleticism" preface (which this is a short preview of) which includes as you can see, just a short preview of his defensive prowess.

I'm thinking about adding his passing highlights to this next revision. Which means it could finally cover the full range of Wilt's offensive capability and reveal why defenses had to be covering him a certain way (scoring highlights alone don't reveal how dangerous he was on offense). The full court outlet passes video I recently uploaded was just a sample of organizing/categorizing a specific type of pass. So expect this next version to be the first hour + long Wilt 'highlight' video ever made.

Anyways, check out that jump recovery, 290-300lbs and he would block a shot or attempt to, and recover almost immediately and be right up over your next shot in a fraction of a second. Terrifying stuff if you are trying to get inside and score. He also looks physical as **** on defense, like he's not concerned about landing on you if you are dumb enough to get underneath him.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW][url]http://youtu.be/UAmuvwsDKBk[/url]

Some of the many new clips to be found in the next revision of "Wilt scouting tool".

Something like 10-15 new field goals have been found that will be added (I didn't count yet, but there's a handful of new ones)

I'm going to add about 5 to 6 minutes more footage to the "physical tools and athleticism" preface (which this is a short preview of) which includes as you can see, just a short preview of his defensive prowess.

I'm thinking about adding his passing highlights to this next revision. Which means it could finally cover the full range of Wilt's offensive capability and reveal why defenses had to be covering him a certain way (scoring highlights alone don't reveal how dangerous he was on offense). The full court outlet passes video I recently uploaded was just a sample of organizing/categorizing a specific type of pass. So expect this next version to be the first hour + long Wilt 'highlight' video ever made.

Anyways, check out that jump recovery, 290-300lbs and he would block a shot or attempt to, and recover almost immediately and be right up over your next shot in a fraction of a second. Terrifying stuff if you are trying to get inside and score. He also looks physical as **** on defense, like he's not concerned about landing on you if you are dumb enough to get underneath him.[/QUOTE]
Where did you find the clip at 2:14-15?

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW][url]http://youtu.be/UAmuvwsDKBk[/url]

Some of the many new clips to be found in the next revision of "Wilt scouting tool".

Something like 10-15 new field goals have been found that will be added (I didn't count yet, but there's a handful of new ones)

I'm going to add about 5 to 6 minutes more footage to the "physical tools and athleticism" preface (which this is a short preview of) which includes as you can see, just a short preview of his defensive prowess.

I'm thinking about adding his passing highlights to this next revision. Which means it could finally cover the full range of Wilt's offensive capability and reveal why defenses had to be covering him a certain way (scoring highlights alone don't reveal how dangerous he was on offense). The full court outlet passes video I recently uploaded was just a sample of organizing/categorizing a specific type of pass. So expect this next version to be the first hour + long Wilt 'highlight' video ever made.

Anyways, check out that jump recovery, 290-300lbs and he would block a shot or attempt to, and recover almost immediately and be right up over your next shot in a fraction of a second. Terrifying stuff if you are trying to get inside and score. He also looks physical as **** on defense, like he's not concerned about landing on you if you are dumb enough to get underneath him.[/QUOTE]
:applause: Looking forward to it.

Where'd you find the new footage?

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW][url]http://youtu.be/UAmuvwsDKBk[/url]

Some of the many new clips to be found in the next revision of "Wilt scouting tool".

Something like 10-15 new field goals have been found that will be added (I didn't count yet, but there's a handful of new ones)

I'm going to add about 5 to 6 minutes more footage to the "physical tools and athleticism" preface (which this is a short preview of) which includes as you can see, just a short preview of his defensive prowess.

I'm thinking about adding his passing highlights to this next revision. Which means it could finally cover the full range of Wilt's offensive capability and reveal why defenses had to be covering him a certain way (scoring highlights alone don't reveal how dangerous he was on offense). The full court outlet passes video I recently uploaded was just a sample of organizing/categorizing a specific type of pass. So expect this next version to be the first hour + long Wilt 'highlight' video ever made.

Anyways, check out that jump recovery, 290-300lbs and he would block a shot or attempt to, and recover almost immediately and be right up over your next shot in a fraction of a second. Terrifying stuff if you are trying to get inside and score. He also looks physical as **** on defense, like he's not concerned about landing on you if you are dumb enough to get underneath him.[/QUOTE]

Really looking forward to all of it, especially the defensive stuff.

[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]1. Yes, quite easily. Though why would he want his head to hit the ring? He's not going to be trying to get his head near it, so given that only 2% of his career field goals exists on film, and even less of his overall career, opportunities to see his head at maximum height near the rim are going to be slim to none. Only a few pics and clips exist of him jumping high in close vicinity of the ring, but nevertheless they definitely exist and don't really leave room for reasonable doubt.

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2. Not that this has to do with your overall point you are trying to make, but Converse All Star shoes are not 1 inch thick, those type of basketball shoes back then were wafer thin compared to modern shoes. They were probably more like a half inch thick.[/QUOTE]

This doesn't prove anything and I'll show you why:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3qMJCS4Xck&t=3m45s[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3qMJCS4Xck&t=3m55s[/url]