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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865685897/What-the-Jazz-would-have-to-give-up-to-get-Cavs-all-star-guard-Kyrie-Irving.html[/url]
Donovan Mitchell for sure and it probably still wouldn't be enough without Gobert
[QUOTE]To get someone like Irving, the Jazz will have to part ways with promising players, including guard Donovan Mitchell. However, since Mitchell is technically a new signing, the Jazz wouldn’t be able to complete a trade with the Cavaliers until Friday.[/QUOTE]
Can't see it being enough. Maybe in December if Favors returns to form and Exum shows he can play finally they might be able to do something
[QUOTE]Losing Mitchell would hurt, but it’s going to take years for the 20-year-old to reach Irving’s level, if he ever does. [/QUOTE]
Plays both ends. I wouldn't give him or Rudy up. Everyone else sure!
[QUOTE]Mitchell would be carefully brought along and would play less minutes in Cleveland than he will in Utah.[/QUOTE]
not sure about that. He might be in the G-league for both
[QUOTE]The previous report mentioned that Cleveland is also seeking a veteran player capable of starting and future draft picks for Irving. Utah would be able to flip newly acquired point guard Ricky Rubio, whom the Jazz received in a deal from the Minnesota Timberwolves in June, to Cleveland, filling the Cavaliers’ void after Irving departs.[/QUOTE]
Cleveland wants shooters like every team without the wizard running the front office. Doubt they want Rubio nor does anyone else
[QUOTE]In this case, the Jazz would be the clear winner if they could land Irving from Cleveland.[/QUOTE]
In the short term sure. But if he leaves in two years and Mitchell becomes a two way star then no
[QUOTE]Rubio is the pass-first point guard that Utah has been looking for since trading Deron Williams. Especially with Quin's coaching and the Jazz system, Rubio can be better than anyone possibly thinks. But shift to Irving and we're pass in the same shoot-first PG mentality that has plagued the Jazz for years. [/QUOTE]
They've been looking for one or you have? Sloan is not the coach. Most teams have a shoot first pg. The game has changed and the Jazz are going backwards
[QUOTE]If UT is going to pursue a CLE player, I'd much rather see them going after Love. UT already has a PG but are weak at the stretch four. I like the idea of Gobert or Udoh with some triple combination of Hood, Ingles, Johnson, Burks, Mitchell, Jerebko, Sefalosha, and Love lurking at the 3-point line waiting for pinpoint passes from Rubio or Exum. That's a strong 3-and-D combination at the team level instead of just individually. It could be fun to watch. But we just need someone at the stretch four bigger than Johnson and with a better track record than Jerebko.[/QUOTE]
Doubt they are trading Love and Irving. Jonson was fine at the 4 before the GS series and they won't have to worry about them this year! Jonas will be of too once Favors and Johnson are dealt and he moves into the rotation.
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2017/08/04/utah-jazz-sefolosha-nba-africa-hayward-[/url]
[QUOTE]2kHayward
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://fansided.com/2017/08/03/5-biggest-surprises-espn-nba-win-projections/3/[/url]
[QUOTE]Now we
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[QUOTE]Tom Westerholm: Interviewer:
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2017/08/05/utah-jazz-best-caseworst-case-scenario-series-royce-o/[/url]
[QUOTE]What
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://hoopshabit.com/2017/08/04/utah-jazz-5-rookie-season-goals-tony-bradley/[/url]
Show he can play in the G-league first
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2017/08/05/can-ricky-rubio-take-next-step-utah-jazz/[/url]
[QUOTE]the Utah Jazz had work to do before the opening of free agency. In a desperate attempt to satisfy Hayward by surrounding him with young talent while retaining the cap space to pay him, the Jazz would trade for Spaniard Ricky Rubio.[/QUOTE]
downgraded the roster. Way to go wizard. Where would they be without you! :rant
[QUOTE]So, going from a team that has been sub-par for so long to a team that made the second round of the playoffs last season will be an adjustment.[/QUOTE]
not the same team. He went from a lottery team to a lottery team
[QUOTE]this year
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2017/08/06/utah-jazz-best-caseworst-case-scenario-series-donovan-mitchell/[/url]
[QUOTE]Mitchell looked like an NBA-ready player[/QUOTE]
Defensively anyway.
[QUOTE]Obviously his playing time will be down, particularly initially, but if Mitchell reaches his potential early, he could find himself earning a much larger role sooner rather than later. [/QUOTE]
Knowing the Jazz he might lead them in minutes. Bolomboy is the only guy they haven't played and they are back playing for lottery balls again this year. I'd say ideally him or Exum starts at the 2 but I'm fine with him starting the year in the G-league if he's not ready too though.
[QUOTE]He averaged 15.6 points per game in his final year as a Cardinal while shooting 35.4 percent from deep and 40.8 percent from the field. For Mitchell to truly reach his best case scenario, he
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2017/08/06/four-reasons-utah-jazz-will-make-playoffs-2018/[/url]
[QUOTE]Hayward
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2017/08/06/utah-jazz-3-intriguing-lineups-next-season/[/url]
[QUOTE]They have solid backup players at every position, and even some decent options when you start getting to the third-string players at certain positions (i.e. Raul Neto, Alec Burks).[/QUOTE]
Two guys that have actually proven themselves in the NBA unlike some of the guys you have ahead of them
[QUOTE]Projected Starters:
C: Rudy Gobert
PF: Derrick Favors
SF: Thabo Sefolosha
SG: Rodney Hood
PG: Ricky Rubio[/QUOTE]
I'd say Ingles is the projected starter at the 3 after last year and his 15 million a year contract. Hood should be on the bench but it doesn't sound like he will be
[QUOTE]Bench (in order of projected minutes):
Joe Ingles
Joe Johnson
Dante Exum
Donovan Mitchell
Jonas Jerebko
Ekpe Udoh
Alec Burks[/QUOTE]
Jerebko is the 5th big the way I see it. Hard to see Burks not playing if he's healthy. They need his scoring and they need to show he can play so they can deal him eventually. Exum has to show he can play or he shouldn't. No reason to baby him anymore. Mitchell can go to the G-league if there's not minutes for him to start the year. The roster will change a lot by the end of the year
[QUOTE]More specifically, players like Joel Bolomboy, Tony Bradley and Raul Neto.[/QUOTE]
Neto should be in the mix since unlike Exum and Michell he has proven he can play in the league. Bolomboy looked good the couple times he played too. I think he could be in the rotation by the end of the year possibly.
The try and stop us lineup
[QUOTE]Donovan Mitchell, Rodney Hood, Joe Ingles, Joe Johnson, Rudy Gobert
This is one of my favorite lineups when examining the Jazz next season. The reason? It may be the best shooting lineup they can throw out onto the floor, but unlike most teams top offensive lineups, they won
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2017/07/18/where-are-they-now-bobby-hansen/[/url]
[QUOTE]Amazing time led by an amazing man in Frank Layden, who had a vision as president, general manager, coach. Frank was everything. You know, and he saw, I think, the draft and tha
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://jazzfanatical.wordpress.com/2017/07/27/bits-from-gordon-hayward-interview-the-woj-pod/[/url]
[QUOTE]On how much Golden State and the strength of the Western Conference impacted his decision
When we
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://thejnotes.com/2017/08/07/utah-jazz-lists-all-time-starting-five/2/[/url]
[QUOTE]He also teamed with Karl Malone to lead the Jazz back-to-back NBA Finals in ’97 and ’98. If not for some guy rocking No. 23 for the Chicago Bulls, he probably has a ring or two right now.[/QUOTE]
If he'd been more selfish and Karl wasn't a choker and Jerry hadn't been out coached and it the Jazz weren't cheap...
[QUOTE]Honorable mention: Deron Williams, Rickey Green[/QUOTE]
loved Rickey but he was no Deron
[QUOTE]
What’s crazy is that he was one of the NBA’s greatest-ever scorers as a six-foot-five, 200-pound post player. In that regard, Dantley just might be the ultimate example of overcoming one’s lack of size.[/QUOTE]
was said he really only 6'2""!
[QUOTE]As was the case with Stockton, there’s no argument to be had here.[/QUOTE]
as was the case for all the picks thus far
[QUOTE]If not for the misdiagnosed injury that essentially ended his career (thanks a bunch, Lakers medical staff!), he more than likely finishes his career as the most prolific scorer in the history of the league.[/QUOTE]
I think he quit because he went after Kobe's wife . Unlikely he would have been the all-time leading scorer. Was still a few seasons off
[QUOTE]Although Mark Eaton is the only player among this five not enshrined at the Basketball Hall of Fame, I say one could legitimately argue that he should be there. [/QUOTE]
LOL! You never even saw him play correct? He was a stiff
[QUOTE]Oh, and about that playoff streak that AD tipped off — Eaton deserves equal credit on that one. His arrival in Utah changed the team.[/QUOTE]
no he doesn't. AD was the man. They also had Griffith, Green and Thurl
[QUOTE] Think I’m crazy?[/QUOTE]
just stupid. Rudy is the best ever already and it's not even close.
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]https://www.ksl.com/?sid=45336501&nid=294&title=ben-anderson-could-the-jazz-target-jabari-parker[/url]
[QUOTE]The Jazz will look to Rodney Hood and Gobert to make up some of the scoring load, but it may be too much to ask for Hood to increase his scoring load by 7.3 points to cross the 20-point threshold. [/QUOTE]
He could but is it good for the team? He's a 6th man. And regardless of how much he scores hes not the player Hayward is.
[QUOTE]Gobert would need to add 6 points to his average.[/QUOTE]
He was averaging over 17 at the end of the season but it will be a lot tougher for him and Favors without shooters spreading the floor
[QUOTE]Facing a 12-month rehabilitation plan, having torn his ACL this past February, Parker will have roughly two months, or 30 NBA games, to prove his value.[/QUOTE]
and the playoffs
[QUOTE]Parker has played more than 80 percent of his career minutes at the power forward position. With both Derrick Favors and Joe Johnson in the final years of their contracts with the Jazz, a starting caliber forward will be a priority for the Jazz in 2018.[/QUOTE]
Everything but a center could be a priority with them though
[QUOTE]For the Jazz, who struggle to attract top-tier talent on the free agency market, betting on a cultural and positional fit like Parker, may be worth the gamble. [/QUOTE]
He's restricted so I wouldn't get my hopes up
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Re: The 2017 off-season...Hayward, Hill, Ingles...?
[url]http://www.nba.com/morning-tip-da-2017-offseason-rankings-bottom-10-teams[/url]
[QUOTE]21. UTAH JAZZ[/QUOTE]
amazing what a difference an unbiased opinion looks like
[QUOTE]Rubio